Is it The End?

[Lauren Hynde]

in C.N.N.

Jacques Chirac recommended to the parliament that a law forbidding religious symbols in public schools.

Putting aside the sheer stupidity of the law and inevitable clash with the religious minorities ahead, one question arises above all others:

Is this the end of all erotic stories featuring hot short-skirted collegial French catholic girls wearing large crosses and mind-fucking God all day with the help of a Baby Jesus butt-plug?

 

[Colleen Thomas]

I must hope not since I haven't yet gotten around to my opus featuring said collegial girls.


-colly

 

[Lauren Hynde]

I must hope not since I haven't yet gotten around to my opus featuring said collegial girls.


-colly

When you do get around to it, let me know. These stories much now be cherished and protected as rare items. We'll start a foundation.

 

[wildsweetone]

I'm not French, nor am I catholic, but I just know that now I have to go searching through my wardrobe for something else to wear to the staff Christmas dinner tonight. *sigh*

 

[Guest]

. . . Is this the end of all erotic stories featuring hot short-skirted collegial French catholic girls wearing large crosses and mind-fucking God all day with the help of a Baby Jesus butt-plug?

(crumbling up completed hard copy of latest story)

I wonder if I can just rewrite the part about them wearing short skirts?

 

[Lauren Hynde]

Re: Re: Is it The End?

(crumbling up completed hard copy of latest story)

I wonder if I can just rewrite the part about them wearing short skirts?

And send me a link, please!

 

[raphy]

It won't ever be the end!

They will live on in our fantasies!

I hope.....

 

[Guest]

I only want to know what WSO ended up wearing to her party.

Perdita

 

[raphy]

I only want to know what WSO ended up wearing to her party.

Perdita

And we want to see pictures, right, 'dita!

 

[Lauren Hynde]

Just as a random piece of information, I would like to had that I am catholic and can fake a really great French accent.

Notre Père qui est aux cieux...

 

[Icingsugar]

Don't worry, Lauren.

Chiracs proposition is afaik about visual religious symbols.

So baby jesus butt-plugs will still thrive. Maybe even throb.


/Ice

ps. I have a t-shirt saying "1. Do the dishes. 2. Buy milk. 3. Make Baby Jesus cry." Is that a religious symbol?

 

[Lauren Hynde]

Don't worry, Lauren.

Chiracs proposition is afaik about visual religious symbols.

So baby jesus butt-plugs will still thrive. Maybe even throb.


/Ice

ps. I have a t-shirt saying "1. Do the dishes. 2. Buy milk. 3. Make Baby Jesus cry." Is that a religious symbol?

I hope not! I have one of these.

You make a good point about Baby Jesus, but I am worried about
The Cross...

 

[Somme]

Chirac has opened a can of worms and the Germans, spurred on by the Bavrarians are concidering doing the same. The trouble is, of course, if somme bishop or other trots down the same dusty corridors........(This user trails off lamely in his used hair shirt and barbed wire sandals.......)

 

[oggbashan]

French schools became secular shortly after 1789.

The Church was seen as being as oppressive as Les Aristos.

I have a French newspaper of the 1790s that shows the then current proposals for schooling in France.

There was to be a school for every 1000 people with boys and girls sections. The curriculum was to be fixed by the state. Both sexes would study the same curriculum except that girls would learn about pregnancy and childcare and the boys would study surveying and land measurement. Both would learn literature, politics, mathematics, science, rhetoric and logic. This was for children up to age 12! They were to start on French grammar as soon as they started school.

No religion was to be taught. The had to study the constitution and The Rights of Man (which included their DUTIES to the state). For girls their duties were to produce healthly French people.

So all Jacques Chirac is proposing is a return to the ideals of the French Revolution.

Og (How's your surveying?)

 

[Lauren Hynde]

That's an interesting post, Og, but ultimately wrong for two sets of reasons.

1. Official schools in all over Europe are secular and have been for some time, but there is a huge difference between that fine tradition of laic states and this ridiculous nonsense. As secular institutions, schools shouldn't teach religion. Everyone agrees with that (well, whatever...). What Chirac proposes now is an interference with each individual's choices, with everyone's right to his/her own belief without being judged by it. Note that he doesn't propose the adoption of a strict uniform, he only wishes to prohibit the use of certain religious symbols. What is the logical argument for this prohibition? In what way does it serve the education of the students? In my opinion, if this law is approved, France will not be returning to the ideals of the French Revolution, not making sure schools remain laical, but creating a policy of militant quasi-fascist atheism where you can be outed simply for exercising your right to free religious expression.
   
2. (more importantly)
   A short-skirted collegial French catholic girl wearing a large cross and mind-fucking God all day with the help of a Baby Jesus butt-plug is still, in my view, sexier than a topless non-descriptive French woman waving some flag.
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[Guest]

I'm still in just a bit of a shock after viewing the happy little baby Jesus-shaped pink butt plug.

Truly a marvel!

 

[Lauren Hynde]

Isn't it the cutest?

If anyone wants to offer me one for Christmas, I'll say a prayer for you every night.

 

[pop_54]

Hmmmmmm

That's an interesting post, Og, but ultimately wrong for two sets of reasons.

1. Official schools in all over Europe are secular and have been for some time, but there is a huge difference between that fine tradition of laic states and this ridiculous nonsense. As secular institutions, schools shouldn't teach religion. Everyone agrees with that (well, whatever...). What Chirac proposes now is an interference with each individual's choices, with everyone's right to his/her own belief without being judged by it. Note that he doesn't propose the adoption of a strict uniform, he only wishes to prohibit the use of certain religious symbols. What is the logical argument for this prohibition? In what way does it serve the education of the students? In my opinion, if this law is approved, France will not be returning to the ideals of the French Revolution, not making sure schools remain laical, but creating a policy of militant quasi-fascist atheism where you can be outted simply for exercising your right to free religious expression.
   
2. (more importantly)
   A short-skirted collegial French catholic girl wearing a large cross and mind-fucking God all day with the help of a Baby Jesus butt-plug is still, in my view, sexier than a topless non-descriptive French woman waving some flag.
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   It's happening all over Europe Lauren, not just France with the Catholic thing, (which I believe I'd heard about but didn't believe), our local coucil has just banned Christian symbols in public displays of Xmas lest it should offend the Muslim population of the area. They've banned advertising of Carrol services and destroyed all the angels that used to be illuminated around the City at this time of year, only stars and nondescript Xmas decorations are permitted. It's all in the name of political correctness and the grand European illusion of human rights.
   
   My God I shall miss the short skirts and crosses, so much more than the bloody angels.

 

[Lauren Hynde]

Is it just me thinking that banning religious icons from Christmas is fucking insane?


I have heard on TV a week or two ago about these two Algerian/French girls, Muslims, that didn't usually wear the head scarves but started now just because of this asinine proposal. Who the hell do they think they* are trying to interfere with something as private as one's religious convictions?

*The Man

 

[pop_54]

Nope

Is it just me thinking that banning religious icons from Christmas is fucking insane?


I have heard on TV a week or two ago about these two Algerian/French girls, Muslims, that didn't usually wear the head scarves but started now just because of this asinine proposal. Who the hell do they think they* are trying to interfere with something as private as one's religious convictions?

*The Man

It's not just you love, believe me on that fact My post above is so very true and acurate as to make one want to lay down and cry with frustration with these idiots. A Christian celebration where no Christian symbols are allowed, and all to appease a bunch of new imigrants it seems.

 

[Lauren Hynde]

Personally, I think it's more to appease those who think they are trying to appease religious minorities.

 

[Guest]

If anyone wants to offer me one for Christmas, I'll say a prayer for you every night.

Prayers from Laurencia, my, what a thought.

Perdita

 

[oggbashan]

My local newspaper prints pictures of the primary schools' nativity plays and has done for years.

This year one school has banned the use of the children's full names because it might provide material for paedophiles. They haven't banned the pictures, just the names. The newspaper had an editorial condemning the ban.

Parents are no longer allowed to take video pictures of school activities because the video might reach paedophiles. It is not a complete ban. A video can be made if ALL the parents of the children involved agree in writing so it is still possible. I can't think of anything that would get all parents to sign particularly when it has to be both parents including divorced and separated ones.

Has the world gone mad?

Og

PS. The French Revolution intended not a lay state but an atheist state with a religion of state worship. Only "constitutional" priests were allowed.

Chirac can try to ban the cross and crucifix. He can't ban Muslim girls from wearing headscarves because that offends their human rights. He could be challenged on a ban on any religious symbol because it breaks the European Convention on Human Rights. But the French have a tradition of only obeying European Laws when it suits them.

 

[pop_54]

Yeppers

My local newspaper prints pictures of the primary schools' nativity plays and has done for years.

This year one school has banned the use of the children's full names because it might provide material for paedophiles. They haven't banned the pictures, just the names. The newspaper had an editorial condemning the ban.

Parents are no longer allowed to take video pictures of school activities because the video might reach paedophiles. It is not a complete ban. A video can be made if ALL the parents of the children involved agree in writing so it is still possible. I can't think of anything that would get all parents to sign particularly when it has to be both parents including divorced and separated ones.

Has the world gone mad?

Og

PS. The French Revolution intended not a lay state but an atheist state with a religion of state worship. Only "constitutional" priests were allowed.

Chirac can try to ban the cross and crucifix. He can't ban Muslim girls from wearing headscarves because that offends their human rights. He could be challenged on a ban on any religious symbol because it breaks the European Convention on Human Rights. But the French have a tradition of only obeying European Laws when it suits them.

Couple of schools round here tried that one as well oggie, the parents gave their opinion on it though and the picture ban was lifted. I think the standard response from the parents was, "Don't be so fucking stupid you politically correct tossers".

(Said schools were also not allowed to advertise their Christmans play in the Council run news sheet as a 'Nativity play' they had to call it an 'Annual celebration').

Thing is, local authorities and the like are prepared to go to these lengths, and the police back them because it's someone else to persecute, another easy target like.

But we've just had another fucking real paedophile murder two kids using his position as a 'SCHOOL' caretaker to lure them to their doom haven't we, and all with Camebridge council and the police force's backing and assistance.

How the fuck did a bloke like Huntley get a job at a school with a record of arrests for abusing kids and raping women???????????

How the fuck did that twisted bitch that helped him get a job as a teacher with a record of mental instability and several changes of name over the years????????????????

Where my wifey works, (with kids), they've had people turned down for employment on a bad financial record, but they've had people with criminal records accepted!!!!!!!! No paedo's thank fuck, but one bloke's done time for armed robbery.

This world is not going silly, we are just allowing the lunatics to run the asylum, we are allowing ourselves to be dictated to by the vocal minority of interferring busybodies. High time we began the revolution here, never mind France.

PS: Lauren I agree most of these anti everything laws are passed by uninformed idiots or interferring busybodies. But there was an article locally a while back indicating that local ethnic leaders had actually lodged an objection to such things as excessive, their words, Christian based advertising and celebration along with other traditional British passtimes they found offensive. They also had a club closed because of incidences of pole dancing by scantily clad women offending them. Too much power in the hands of visitors there I feel.

I'm not racist and welcome visitors and new residents, but when in Rome as the saying goes.

 

[raphy]

Re: Yeppers

Couple of schools round here tried that one as well oggie, the parents gave their opinion on it though and the picture ban was lifted. I think the standard response from the parents was, "Don't be so fucking stupid you politically correct tossers".

An attitude which actually works rather well here in the UK.