Is it me?

[rikaaim]

perfection is not possible. Say it three times every night before bed

I can't. The OCD won't let me believe that, or I'll end up saying it 1,000 times before bed. ~_^

 

[carsonshepherd]

Funny about writing Carson, - perhaps a different thread - but we all USE our experiences: good or bad?

absolutely. No question about it. It's the human element. I freely use other people's experiences too so be careful what you tell me or you're like to read it in one of my stories.

 

[carsonshepherd]

I can't. The OCD won't let me believe that, or I'll end up saying it 1,000 times before bed. ~_^

*snicker*

Isn't it funny how we're so much forgiving of others than we are of ourselves?

 

[rikaaim]

*snicker*

Isn't it funny how we're so much forgiving of others than we are of ourselves?

Always. I try to let go, but it's all in my head, not someone else's. I think that's why. I always feel guitly for using other people's experience. Like I'm violating their international copyright laws of their life.

 

[carsonshepherd]

Always. I try to let go, but it's all in my head, not someone else's. I think that's why. I always feel guitly for using other people's experience. Like I'm violating their international copyright laws of their life.

Not me, I'll rip off anyone. There are people on here who know it

Perfectionism is the biggest obstacle to creativity.

 

[OhMissScarlett]

Always. I try to let go, but it's all in my head, not someone else's. I think that's why. I always feel guitly for using other people's experience. Like I'm violating their international copyright laws of their life.

Never feel guilty, hanging out with a writer is like hanging out with a stand-up comedian. You know you're gonna make it into their act some day.

 

[rikaaim]

Never feel guilty, hanging out with a writer is like hanging out with a stand-up comedian. You know you're gonna make it into their act some day.

Very cool. I like that idea. Seinfeld, writing, friend, comedian...he showed us the way...okay, I'm just talkin' bullshit, but the way my life has been lately, Seinfeld fits the bill.

 

[McKenna]

Never feel guilty, hanging out with a writer is like hanging out with a stand-up comedian. You know you're gonna make it into their act some day.

This made me think of that line from Young Guns when Billy the Kid (Emilio Estevez) says, "I'll make ya famous."

 

[carsonshepherd]

This made me think of that line from Young Guns when Billy the Kid (Emilio Estevez) says, "I'll make ya famous."

But with a writer it probably won't be the kind of fame you'll like

 

[CharleyH]

perfection is not possible. Say it three times every night before bed

who said humans are perfect?

 

[CharleyH]

absolutely. No question about it. It's the human element. I freely use other people's experiences too so be careful what you tell me or you're like to read it in one of my stories.

Oh Carson - lol- you are probably already in one of mine LOL

 

[elsol]

But if they had a choice... would they have chosen a white picket fence and a normal life or their stories.

In a hundred years, we will still know the name Kafka and Hemingway.

Who will remember my neighbor?

Sincerely,
ElSol

 

[Guest]

who said humans are perfect?

Some humans come pretty damn close.

 

[elsol]

perfection is not possible. Say it three times every night before bed

Perfection is not possible.

Perfection is not possible.

Damn... I almost made it.

Perfect is possible.

Perfect is possible.

PERFECT IS POSSIBLE!!!

The moment when you realize, it's on the page exactly how it is in your mind.

Followed by the thing on the other side of perfect... the divine:

When someone sends you feedback that let's you know, you put it in THEIR mind exactly how it is in yours.

I will NOT give an inch to my inadequacies as a writer (one of which includes spelling .

Sincerely,
ElSol

 

[Guest]

Spelling doesn't count.

 

[elsol]

Spelling doesn't count.

I accept sweetsubsarahh as conclusive proof that, in fact, perfection IS possible.

Sincerely,
ElSol

 

[indianPilot]

Yes authors soak stuff like a sponge. A number of years ago I attended a book signing for Stephen Baxter. It was a relaxed affair and a number of us went with him to have a light meal and coffee at the local cafe.

While there, we got into a discussion about elements of Australian history. Blow me down, two years later his next book comes out. And the same discussion ideas and debates are represented in an arguement he constructs between a number of his characters.

So the moral to the story. Be careful what you say around a person with a note book lol

Pilot - of indianPilot.

 

[dr_mabeuse]

There's a theory that says that art only comes out of pain, and that we write to try and make sense of our unhappiness.

I believe it.

 

[Guest]

I accept sweetsubsarahh as conclusive proof that, in fact, perfection IS possible.

Sincerely,
ElSol

 

[Selena_Kitt]

There's a theory that says that art only comes out of pain, and that we write to try and make sense of our unhappiness.

through our wounds, we find our deepest gifts...

 

[elsol]

There's a theory that says that art only comes out of pain, and that we write to try and make sense of our unhappiness.

Then I guess I'll never be an artist... cause all in all, I'm a pretty content fucker.

And pain is something I make others feel if they look at me like they're even thinking of bringing some down on me.

Sincerely,
ElSol

 

[rikaaim]

There's a theory that says that art only comes out of pain, and that we write to try and make sense of our unhappiness.

I believe it.

Several people have hit on the point I was really aiming at, but this sums it up briefly. Would you suffer for your art? I don't seem to produce anything worth a damn without my pain and insecurities. Yet it's those same insecurities that make me think my work isn't good enough, that I'm not good enough. So, I can make myself happy, and dull that ache. Or I can cling to the hope that my pain somehow helps others, or at the very least entertains. My personal answer is to continue the struggle and suffering to try and help those in a similar situation as I that do not know how to express themselves. My target audience is those who feel trapped, like I, but know of no way out. I want to try and show that there is a way out, even if I don't take that way out myself. I don't know. Maybe it's just self-rightous drivel. I stay in so that I may lead you out sorta thing.

 

[Sex and Death]

through our wounds, we find our deepest gifts...

Marry me.

In my experience, this is the core essence of the creative process; opening through our wounds to the source (whatever that might be) of our inspiration and channeling it through our gifts into the medium in which we are working. Our wounds, as the aperture of soul through which flows universal truth, then become our greatest gifts to give.

Jung said that the God is in our disease. It is a divine creation that comes out of our wounds, our pain and suffering. And what did Campbell say..***** is an incredible drama, it's just that it hurts?

We all can sense how true another's writing is to their inner and outer experience. isn't that we mean when we tell oursleves and each other to "write what we know?" I believe it is the universal channeled through the personal that makes art. If we don't simultaneously tap the greatest personal depths that we are capable of and the gretatets universal truth that we are capable of, then we are making something other than art.

Perhaps the discipline of writing, or any art, is opening to that which is greater than oursleves.

SD

 

[ABSTRUSE]

There's a theory that says that art only comes out of pain, and that we write to try and make sense of our unhappiness.

I believe it.

I'm with Doc on this one.


Pain gives way to a clarity that only the truly mad can understand and they give it birth in a way that the sane can relate to it.

 

[rikaaim]

Marry me.

In my experience, this is the core essence of the creative process; opening through our wounds to the source (whatever that might be) of our inspiration and channeling it through our gifts into the medium in which we are working. Our wounds, as the aperture of soul through which flows universal truth, then become our greatest gifts to give.

Jung said that the God is in our disease. It is a divine creation that comes out of our wounds, our pain and suffering. And what did Campbell say..***** is an incredible drama, it's just that it hurts?

We all can sense how true another's writing is to their inner and outer experience. isn't that we mean when we tell oursleves and each other to "write what we know?" I believe it is the universal channeled through the personal that makes art. If we don't simultaneously tap the greatest personal depths that we are capable of and the gretatets universal truth that we are capable of, then we are making something other than art.

Perhaps the discipline of writing, or any art, is opening to that which is greater than oursleves.

SD

This whole passage to me is art. So eloquently and precisely put. I agree one hundred percent. That, and I wanted to give you more credit than ABS. Her ego's big enough as it is.

I find it most comforting and intruiging that I am not alone in this line of thinking. That what seems most abhorent and intolerable inside can be a marker of hope and light if presented in the right way, any true way. Even if I do not know the answer or the point, the truth will shine through and strike a chord with those who know its power.