Is Iraq obeying the Geneva Covention or not?

[Veryknowing]

This is quoted from a guy called Bill White at LSN;

An Examination Of The Rescue Of Jessica Lynch
Iraqis Had Been Obeying The Geneva Convention

4/2/03 2:13:08 PM
Bill White

When US troops raided a hospital near Nasiriyah the other day and said they found evidence US prisoners had been held there, I thought "good -- they're getting treatment." The US papers and the US networks like FOX claimed that the fact that a battery had been found nearby was evidence of "torture"; I thought it sounded more like evidence of medical equipment. When the US destroys power generators in an attempt to starve a city to submission, the people have to run their medical equipment on batteries.

What's clear is that the Iraqi military have not shipped all their prisoners of war to Baghdad to be abused. Those prisoners that could not be treated, and which were facing life threatening wounds, were hospitalized locally and given the best medical treatment the Iraqis could muster. Both of Lynch's legs and one of her arms were broken, and she had multiople gunshot wounds; she didn't survive a week like that because the Iraqis left her to die.

The fact that most of the coalition dead -- twice as many so far as the US had admitted to the press were missing -- were found at the hospital is also encouraging, because it means that the Iraqis gave medical treatment to all the wounded prisoners before they died. Iraq is truly treating its POWs, as best as possible, acording to the Geneva Convention.

What the raid illustrates, however, is the depth of the lies that the US media has been telling about the Iraqi treatment of POWs. The US media have claimed there is evidence that US POWs have been "tortured". Well, if you take a little girl with three broken limbs and multiple gunshot wounds and torture her, she dies. In fact, if you take a girl like that and just leave her, she dies. She only lives if a doctor tries to make her live, and it looks like the Iraqi doctors have done just that.

The US reported that the hospital they captured was an "illegal" "military command center", and then they report in the same breath that "there was no resistance inside the hospital" because the Iraqi military commanders had "fled". Really? Why? Did they know the US Special Forces were coming? I doubt it. They still control the city -- they haven't fled the area. What is revealed here is that the US assertion that Iraq is violating the Geneva Convention by militarizing hospitals is as much a lie as the US assertion that Iraqi is torturing it's prisoners.

 

[Linedrive]

I wonder how she got three broken limbs...? Guess we will find out.

 

[Bob_Bytchin]

I don't believe they are, but it does seem like France is giving them military advice.

 

[Linedrive]

The US reported that the hospital they captured was an "illegal" "military command center", and then they report in the same breath that "there was no resistance inside the hospital" because the Iraqi military commanders had "fled". Really? Why?

My understanding is the US Marines put on a diversionary firefight not too far away that drew Iraqi forces, possibly from the hospital area leaving few or no soldiers there.

 

[Lost Cause]

Typical bullshit.......

The battery was found next to a metal bed frame, the forces said there was no doubt as to torture being conducted in the hospital, as well as it being used for a military command post and weapons locker.
We won't even go to the Iraqi SS firing from the Ali Mosque, and coalition troops holding fire because of the religious icon it represents to the Iraqi people.
I'm looking forward to the post surrender environment, like the way traitors were dealt with in liberated Europe after the NAZI occupation. Oh, and the war crimes trials ala Nuremburg!
And not to mention the breaking away from our "Allies" to friends we could really count on when the dung was flung.
FTW.

 

[ma_guy]

The fact that most of the coalition dead -- twice as many so far as the US had admitted to the press were missing -- were found at the hospital is also encouraging, because it means that the Iraqis gave medical treatment to all the wounded prisoners before they died. Iraq is truly treating its POWs, as best as possible, acording to the Geneva Convention.

I love it when people start something with "The fact that.." and then proceed to spout nonsense. What "facts" support that any of those dead ever received any medical treatment? They were found in the hospital morgue. That doesn't mean that they were ever treated at that hospital. They could just as easily been executed when found and that it was just the closest place that had a morgue. Does the author also presume that everyone buried in a given cemetery died on that plot of land?

His insinuation that all of the bodies found were coalition forces is equally dumb. Where has that been announced or published? 11 bodies were found in the morgue. SOME OF THEM are apparently coalition forces. I've yet to see a single news story that says that ALL OF THEM are.

 

[Veryknowing]

I don't believe they are, but it does seem like France is giving them military advice.

France and Russia and others as well, I'm sure.

Russian secret-service gives a daily report to Saddam Hussein's top officials daily according to stuff I've read. There are also contracted Russian military-advisors in Iraq employed via a private company.

Iraq might be obeying the Geneva Convention despite the crap we've been told, simply because the French would tell them to do so. It would make the Iraqi cause look so much better, and if proven it would make the US and British governments look like liars even more.

Besides, the Iraqis don't seem to have many captured Coalition troops so it wouldn't be a big strain on their resources.

 

[huskie]

The key thing here is Geneva Covention........... The US has never faught anyone that truely follows the G.C. ........ why should we? Anyone or nation that Truely follows the G.C. wouldn't done anything to drives us to the point of war.

 

[Linedrive]

The author of that piece Bill White is an interesting character. Go google for some of the articles and his viewpoint. It comes as no suprise that he would create such a piece loaded high on conspiracy and low on truth.

http://www.overthrow.com/lsn/news.asp?articleID=3519


Oh ya, he doesn't like Jews either.

 

[Veryknowing]

Re: Re: Is Iraq obeying the Geneva Covention or not?

My understanding is the US Marines put on a diversionary firefight not too far away that drew Iraqi forces, possibly from the hospital area leaving few or no soldiers there.

I think that such a tactic would be required, at least to draw away as much opposition forces as possible.

Pretty good thing that they could rescue her...rescues like that often go wrong. Damn risky if it the hospital really was full of Iraqi soldiers.

I doubt that it was a command center though, as you don't just abandon a command center without a real fight.

 

[Veryknowing]

The author of that piece Bill White is an interesting character. Go google for some of the articles and his viewpoint. It comes as no suprise that he would create such a piece loaded high on conspiracy and low on truth.

http://www.overthrow.com/lsn/news.asp?articleID=3519


Oh ya, he doesn't like Jews either.

Yeah, I noticed that he was a bit of a flip that way. If he got off the Jewish Conspiracy stuff, he'd actually be a very good writer.

 

[Veryknowing]

The key thing here is Geneva Covention........... The US has never faught anyone that truely follows the G.C. ........ why should we? Anyone or nation that Truely follows the G.C. wouldn't done anything to drives us to the point of war.

That's not entirely true. The Nazis obeyed the Geneva Convention to the letter in their treatment of captured Allied soldiers. But then again, the Japanese were the ones who attacked Pearl Harbor, and they definitely didn't obey the G.C. and freely ignored it.