Is getting drunk immature?

Color Me Crazy

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My friend and I were in a bit of a disagreement about this.

I won't say who was on what side, but basically the argument was that getting drunk and being all crazy/flirty while being trashed is just really immature.

She's 18, I'm 19. Now... neither of us are old enough for alcohol, so neither of us have experienced getting drunk... ::cough-cough::, because that would be wrong and illegal, but what do you all think?

Immature? Or just a good time?
 
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Color Me Crazy said:
My friend and I were in a bit of a disagreement about this.

I won't say who was on what side, but basically the argument was that getting trashed and being all crazy/flirty while being traahed is just really immature.

She's 18, I'm 19. Now... neither of us are old enough for alcohol, so neither of us have experienced getting drunk... ::cough-cough::, because that would be wrong and a illegal, but what do you all think?

Immature? Or just a good time?

I think it is immature. A good time is some serious sober sex where both parties are into it because they want to be and not because they are drunk.
 
Well... in this scenario, sex isn't involved. Just flirting. Maybe some kissing and feeling, and that's it. Just to clarify.
 
Color Me Crazy said:
Well... in this scenario, sex isn't involved. Just flirting. Maybe some kissing and feeling, and that's it. Just to clarify.

Glad to hear it ;) Seriously, I really disapprove of people using alcohol to lose their inhabitions.
Kissing and feeling are better sober too, I think. Also developing the talent for being crazy/flirty without alcohol or drugs is a good thing that people should start when they are young.
 
argument was that getting drunk and being all crazy/flirty while being trashed is just really immature


There`s nothing pretty about a drunk making a pass at you
 
Is getting drunk immature?

In itself, no.

But not being able to control yourself when drunk is just a sign of immaturity, I guess.

Though maybe it has less to do with maturity than self-respect. (Never do anything when drunk that you wouldn't do sober.)

I imagine, though, that this is one of those subjects where Brits will have very different views to Americans. Most Americans I have met have been shocked at how much we Brits drink. But then, we are shocked at the French. And I am sure there must be some nation the French are shocked at.


;)
 
Yes.... and no.

Yes if you're going to drive a car, play sports or possibly put yourself in danger (sexually or otherwise).

No if you're home with trusted friends, have nowhere to go and don't mind the potential vomitting and/or hangover the next day.

Alcohol is a depressent and does NOT make you happy - although you may laugh like a jerk at times.
 
Drinking is great! But only in moderation.

One thing my ex always said, and she still says, people do things when they are drunk like kissing not because of the alcohol but because they wanted to.
 
I won't say who was on what side, but basically the argument was that getting drunk and being all crazy/flirty while being trashed is just really immature.


Wanna go grope a 56 year old woman and key a limo too?
 
getting drunk every so often is fun.

getting drunk to the point where you dont know what you're doing and certainly wont remember any of it in the morning is a very bad thing to do. it's not so much immature as asking for something bad to happen to you.
 
Getting piss-ass drunk so u can barely walk and certainly wont be able to remember aint immature, daft but not immature.

Having a few drinks to lossen up and not be so nervous is fine, why do u think clubs are favorite places to pick people up?
Getting really drunk means u prob wont be able to do much with anyone.

Different people have different booze limits, how much booze we talking about?

The French are shocked at the Germans, 'what - they whipped our ass - again?????'
 
Drinking to the point of losing control of ANYTHING (bodily function, sexual responsibility, money, words, etc.) is not only immature, but very damaging to you and everyone who has to deal with you.

The VERY LAST TIME my SO got overly drunk was while I was pregnant with our son. He knows if he ever did that again I would kick him to the backyard for a year. At the very least.

I don't think that getting 'drunk' (read: pleasantly but not overly intoxicated... this is where knowing your limits comes in very handy) is a horrible thing, per se... it's when you become a helpless slobbering (or worse) smelly drunk that people come to really dislike being around you even once you've sobered.

The inability to control yourself is quite likely ONE of the first steps to becoming an alcoholic. Not necessarily guaranteed to make you one, nor is it a sure thing that all alcoholics are like this, but in my experience it is a common factor.

Ang

oh -- and clubs are not at all an impressive place to 'pick someone up'.
 
Your actions, while drunk aren't immature, they are the result of being stupid enough to drink until you lose control.

Drinking in moderation is ok, drinking for the express purpose of getting shitfaced is idiotic and immature.

Drinking until shitfaced in public isn't only stupid, its downright dangerous. You can wake up the next morning, wondering who is in the bed with you, or you could wake up remembering nothing after that "cute" guy gave you a drink and wondering why you're naked and sore as hell.
 
Yes, when done on a regular basis. Hell even on a weekly basis

Nothing screems of immaturity than those who live to get shit-faced every weekend. Every other, or every third weekend is okay, but once it becomes routine it becomes pathetic.
 
Getting totally drunk so you fall over puking does not appeal to me, i`ve seen what horrific things alcohol does, being an alcoholic isn`t as fun as it sounds kids
 
Getting drunk can, under certain circumstances, be immature. But something worth remembering: you don't always have to be mature, and "immature" is not a synonym for all that is bad, foolish, childish, and beneath you.

I'm a 21 year old college student, and I think that occaisonally getting drunk enough to make "i love you man" phone calls, have sex in a bar bathroom (safe, but kinky), and run around my city laughing my head off is within my rights. I do plenty of other mature things, but I'm young enough to cut loose once in a while.

I'd also like to suggest that those who don't do those things when they are young end up doing them as part of a midlife crisis. Acting your age isn't necessarily a bad thing.
 
I would say yes. It is immature.

As well as drinking to be able to fit into a social situation is very lame. If one needs a drug to be able to interact with other humans, they have some sort of problem - perhaps a social phobia that they should consult a psychologist about.
 
There is an element of social context that factors in to being drunk. If you're at a bar, house party, or other uncontrolled gathering, then being ineberated to the point of being drunk (which anyone who has had a drink knows is a fine line) leaves a person susceptible to being 'immature'. However, if you're at a more formal gathering, like a wedding reception, or a respectable club, then this same level of drunkeness leads one to control themselves. People who otherwise are shit-faced drunks are actually respectable, even courteous people in these cases.

As for those instances where people are rowdy when uncalled for in formal settings, or go around groping people in any setting - I propose those people were immature to begin with.

Long story short: Being drunk can be mature.
 
I think its immature. Cant be flirty on your own? Put down the booze and go out there and make a good impression completely sober.
 
oh phooey. Getting drunk now and again is bloody good fun. Now, I'm not talking puking up in the gutter drunk, but just some good fun tipsiness. Why not? Look, if it's a regular, can't-function-socially-without-it thing, well DUH of course that's bad. But going out with yer girlfriends and getting a bit loopy and flirty is a goddamn great thing for one's mental health. Now, I am a wee bit older than it would seem most othersin this thread so far are, so maybe my social sphere is a bit different - we're all professionals in my crowd, we don't have the time or energy to be going out getting drunk all the time. But once a month or so, a good knees-up down at the pub? Wahey!
 
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peachykeen said:
oh phooey. Getting drunk now and again is bloody good fun. Now, I'm not talking puking up in the gutter drunk, but just some good fun tipsiness. Why not? Look, if it's a regular, can't-function-socially-without-it thing, well DUH of course that's bad. But going out with yer girlfriends and getting a bit loopy and flirty is a goddamn great thing for one's mental health. Now, I am a wee bit older than it would seem most othersin this thread so far are, so maybe my social sphere is a bit different - we're all professionals in my crowd, we don't have the time or energy to be going out getting drunk all the time. But once a month or so, a good knees-up down at the pub? Wahey!

Woah...I'm in total agreement with you here! The other people on this board make me sound like a total party animal and i'm SOOOOOO not a party animal. I will not lie to you CMC, getting drunk can be hella fun. Why do you think people do it? However, there is a certain line (puking, blacking out, drunken sex, fighting, getting arrested) that you simply should not cross when you're drinking. Unfortunately, a lot of people have no clue when they've crossed that line. Drinking totally fucks up your judgement and the judgement of those around you, and therefore, makes you very vulnerable. Let me suggest some guidelines to mature yet fun drinking:
1. ALWAYS drink with trusted friends. Never ever EVER consume alcohol at a bar or party when you are alone. You and your friends should agree to look out for each other ahead of time
2. ALWAYS have a designated driver or enough cash for a cab home
3. NEVER EVER let your drink out of your sight. You don't want to hear the horror stories i have to tell about that one....
4. ALWAYS drink slowly. Never do more than one shot in a row (or in a night, for that matter). It can take a while for your body to feel the effects of alcohol. Drink a glass of water after every alcoholic beverage you drink or you'll get dehydrated and puke and no one will want to be around you.
5. NEVER play drinking games. I've never heard of a drinking game that didn't end up in total disaster.
6. NEVER get drunk in front of your boss (good tip for all those upcoming office holiday parties), or parents, or grandparents, or clergyperson. Limit yourself to one (maybe two) drinks when you're around these people
7. NEVER drink because you're depressed

With all this said, you can still end up doing things while drinking that you will regret, so you should, above all, know your limits when you're drinking. THAT'S a sign of maturity. If you find yourself setting limits and then breaking them when it comes to alcohol, you probably shouldn't drink at all.
 
Getting drunk with the intention of kissing some stranger who's name you won't ever get and who you'll likely never see again? And potentially put yourself at risk by driving drunk, having unprotected or unwanted sex, or being taken advantage of? Doesn't matter what your intention is, if you can't control your behavior or another person's behavior, than yeah, I think that's bordering immature...but I also think that's somewhat typical behavior for 18 and 19 year olds (particularly college students where alcohol is so readily available)...

*sigh*

Just my aging two cents worth....
 
Color Me Crazy said:
I won't say who was on what side, but basically the argument was that getting drunk and being all crazy/flirty while being trashed is just really immature.

After a couple of days consideration, I've come to the conclusion that there is no direct relationship between getting drunk and being immature.

"... being all crazy/flirty while being trashed," isn't a sign of immaturity, but deliberately getting drunk so you can be "all crazy/flirty while being trashed " probably is.

In general, getting drunk accidently is more a sign of immaturity, or simply lack of experience. However, getting drunk deliberately is almost always either immature or a warning sign of a drinking problem.

The problem is, that there are as many "mature" reasons for getting drunk as there are "immature" reasons. It isn't getting drunk, accidently or deliberately, that determines whther it's "mature" or "immature," but the reason you choose to use alcohol and drunkenness as a crutch.

As a Reformed Lush, I tend to think of getting drunk as something dumb that I did when I was a DFK (Damned Fool Kid) and as such, consider drunkenness in general as something "childish" and "immature."

The argument that, "getting drunk is part of being young," is IMHO a specious argument -- While alcohol can "lubricate" social interactions, getting drunk seldom adds anything to anyone's enjoyment (except those who enjoy laughing at drunks.)
 
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