Infallable he ain't

[voluptuary_manque]

Benedict XVI has put his foot into his mouth . . . again!

 

[rgraham666]

Quelle surprise.

 

[Lee Chambers]

Why are we listening to the Nazi again? I'd rather listen to the last pope through the medium of a fucking Ouija board before I'd take anything this guy says seriously.

 

[Guest]

Heinlein's Stranger in a Strange Land , Jubal Harshaw:

"Speaking ex cathedra, from my belly button..."

Frankly, I think a great, great number of American Catholics (if not Catholics elsewhere) don't believe in papal infallibility. But the damage Benedict can do is still incalculable.

Damned shame, and no really good way to combat his bombast directly.

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

You guys need to get a grip. Places like A/H are tiny oases in a huge world of heterosexuality. Here, youre a big frog in a little pond. Consider yourselves fortunate we dont make you get a visa to visit the real world.

 

[lesbiaphrodite]

This guy is starting to sound a lot like Jimmy Swaggart. It seems odd given the fact that the popes of the recent past have been fairly circumspect in their statements.

 

[cloudy]

This guy is starting to sound a lot like Jimmy Swaggart. It seems odd given the fact that the popes of the recent past have been fairly circumspect in their statements.

Many seem to forget the Christ in Christian.

Like I've said before, if/when Jesus comes back, he's gonna be so pissed off.

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

Christ was also Jewish, and would be 1st in line to revere the traditions and prescriptions contained within the Talmud or Old Testament. He'd forgive you rather than stone you, but he wouldnt approve your conduct. At the end of the day you'd be alive AND still a sinner.

"If you dont believe what you profess, your Host is simply flour, and your crucifix is merely wood." Dracula

 

[R. Richard]

Christ was also Jewish, and would be 1st in line to revere the traditions and prescriptions contained within the Talmud or Old Testament. He'd forgive you rather than stone you, but he wouldnt approve your conduct. At the end of the day you'd be alive AND still a sinner.

Oh yeah? If Jesus was Jewish, how come he has a Puerto Rican name?

 

[oggbashan]

This statement is not an infallible one.

Since 1870, only one Papal statement has been declared to be infallible - in 1950.

However, a papal statement, even though that statement is not declared as infallible, must be given considerable weight by practicising Catholics.

Og

 

[voluptuary_manque]

This statement is not an infallible one.

Since 1870, only one Papal statement has been declared to be infallible - in 1950.

However, a papal statement, even though that statement is not declared as infallible, must be given considerable weight by practicising Catholics.

Og

And for those of us who are practicing Protestants, it's just one more reason to shake our heads in disbelief.

 

[rgraham666]

We agnostics just get a good laugh out of it.

 

[Stella_Omega]

We agnostics just get a good laugh out of it.

We atheist queers aren't laughing.

 

[voluptuary_manque]

We atheist queers aren't laughing.

Be grateful that he's old.

Actually, I'm beginning to wonder if he isn't lapsing into dementia. Here the old (military expletive deleted) is worried about the continuance of the species and so he condemns gay marriage at the same time that gays and lesbians want to get married and have children.

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

RICHARD

Jesus was a devout Jew, and the Usual Suspects like to ignore this. Contemporary society likes to mold and shape him into what they want, but he was a devout Jew...and his integrity got him into serious trouble. I cant imagine that he would ordain a same-sex marriage or pre-marital sex.

VM

You need to read the Old Testament. Benedict cannot do what you demand and still be a Christian.

 

[cloudy]

Jesus was a devout Jew, and the Usual Suspects like to ignore this. Contemporary society likes to mold and shape him into what they want, but he was a devout Jew...and his integrity got him into serious trouble. I cant imagine that he would ordain a same-sex marriage or pre-marital sex.

I don't see anyone denying that Jesus was Jewish...well, except for R.Richard, and who pays attention to him anyway?

Jesus was, above all, kind, and you don't know anymore than I do what he would or would not accept. It's rather disingenuous for you to pretend that you do. It says absolutely zero about same sex partnerships in the New Testament. I imagine that if it was considered as much a sin as you try to pretend it is, something would have been written about it.

 

[voluptuary_manque]

I don't see anyone denying that Jesus was Jewish...well, except for R.Richard, and who pays attention to him anyway?

Jesus was, above all, kind, and you don't know anymore than I do what he would or would not accept. It's rather disingenuous for you to pretend that you do. It says absolutely zero about same sex partnerships in the New Testament. I imagine that if it was considered such a sin, something would have been written about it.

Until you get to Acts 15 where Paul, St. James and St. Peter, after much prayer and meditation, essentially throw out the old Torah prohibition as inapplicable to non-Jewish Christians. And even that's only by inclusion rather than specificity. Heck, the New Testament says absolutely zero about sex between unmarried people at all.

 

[off2bed]

Why are we listening to the Nazi again?

He agrees with Pinkstarfish, that if you don't recycle you go to hell. I don't like "Nazis" like that either.

 

[Safe_Bet]

I don't see anyone denying that Jesus was Jewish...well, except for R.Richard, and who pays attention to him anyway?

Jesus was, above all, kind, and you don't know anymore than I do what he would or would not accept. It's rather disingenuous for you to pretend that you do. It says absolutely zero about same sex partnerships in the New Testament. I imagine that if it was considered as much a sin as you try to pretend it is, something would have been written about it.

Oh come on Cloudy, show a little "Christian" charity to the asshat. It is SO much easier for people like Jimmie Blow Job to use their "guesses" and the bible to slam us evil queers, cuz after all we are every bit as bad as those truly corrupt people who do terrible things like eatting shrimp cocktail!

 

[Stella_Omega]

Be grateful that he's old.

Actually, I'm beginning to wonder if he isn't lapsing into dementia. Here the old (military expletive deleted) is worried about the continuance of the species and so he condemns gay marriage at the same time that gays and lesbians want to get married and have children.

Dementia, perhaps-- I'm thinking he 'll be our very first Alzheimers pope!

 

[cloudy]

Oh come on Cloudy, show a little "Christian" charity to the asshat. It is SO much easier for people like Jimmie Blow Job to use their "guesses" and the bible to slam us evil queers, cuz after all we are every bit as bad as those truly corrupt people who do terrible things like eatting shrimp cocktail!

But I'm not a Christian.

 

[Safe_Bet]

Until you get to Acts 15 where Paul, St. James and St. Peter, after much prayer and meditation, essentially throw out the old Torah prohibition as inapplicable to non-Jewish Christians. And even that's only by inclusion rather than specificity. Heck, the New Testament says absolutely zero about sex between unmarried people at all.

Except for that "Mary" chick who got her ass knocked up without the benefit of "holy matrimony!"

 

[Safe_Bet]

But I'm not a Christian.

Heathen Shrimp Eater!

 

[redpaint]

We agnostics just get a good laugh out of it.

Youmean I am not the only one here

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

CLOUDY

Jesus was a Jew or he wasnt. There isnt a word in the Gospels about him changing Jewish doctrine, dogma, traditions, or prescriptions. Where he deviates is with secular customs of the sundry principalities in and around Palestine. People confuse his religious ministry with his actions in the political arena.

Do Jews ordain same-sex marriages? I dont think so.

You know, it is possible to infer facts without observations or records. I'll bet you have a navel, and I've never seen you.