Indians begin to talk about S&M

[DVS]

Indians begin to talk about S&M

Another group of people explore S&M and yet another doctor acts like it's a sickness.

 

[Bramblethorn]

Indians begin to talk about S&M

Another group of people explore S&M and yet another doctor acts like it's a sickness.

"I don't find any specific writing on BDSM" [from article] - we must not be working from the same Kama Sutra. The one on Gutenberg has a chapter on how to use fingernails, another on biting, and another on how to strike one's lover.

That said, "Joy Willingly" is an awesome name.

 

[shy slave]

"If this kind of bondage, domination and sadomasochism is the only means by which a person gets aroused, then I would term it as sexually problematic behaviour," says Dr Reddy.

This quote tells me that Indias leading sexologist perhaps needs to read a little more, explore a little more and ask a few more questions.

"Initially, someone might try it for its novelty, but with time that can run off and it can leave deep scars, both physically and emotionally."


This quote from the same man tells me he talks and thinks from an uneducated stand point in terms of BDSM, or to put it another way; he speaks bolloxs

 

[the captians wench]

"If this kind of bondage, domination and sadomasochism is the only means by which a person gets aroused, then I would term it as sexually problematic behaviour," says Dr Reddy.

This quote tells me that Indias leading sexologist perhaps needs to read a little more, explore a little more and ask a few more questions.

"Initially, someone might try it for its novelty, but with time that can run off and it can leave deep scars, both physically and emotionally."


This quote from the same man tells me he talks and thinks from an uneducated stand point in terms of BDSM, or to put it another way; he speaks bolloxs

*pounces and nuzzles the shy and runs away*

 

[shy slave]

*pounces and nuzzles the shy and runs away*

Wenchie, you give the best nuzzles and hugs

 

[DVS]

I just put this out there for all to see, read and form their own conclusions. I think BDSM and S&M in particular seems to have a ways to go before it's in the mainstream of society. No matter how stupid we think a doctor sounds about our joys and desires, there are millions who still assume that just because someone has a degree or the initials Dr in front of their name that they must actually know something.

In my opinion, if someone with no true knowledge on a subject trains another with no true knowledge on a subject, what is learned and what is gained? Actually, I think it's more likely that society loses something, when this happens.

 

[marieR19]

He says in the last 20 years, at least 1% of his patients came with complaints about their partner's demand for a BDSM lifestyle. () They spoke about acts ranging from being burnt by cigarette butts and severely bitten by their partners. They were also pricked with needles, tied up in chains and put on a dog's leash and "humiliated" in front of others.

IF this is true, this "sexologist" seems to be making the very common mistake of thinking that BDSM=abuse. What's written in quotes is abuse. NOT BDSM. But apparently this supposedly-educated person is just spewing forth more lies about the lifestyle, because he refuses to actually do research and understand. If he knew anything at all about BDSM, he would know that the above is *not* it, because, hello, SSC. But he doesn't care to "know" about this stuff, only to "warn" people of the supposed wrong-ness of it.

 

[njlauren]

Not surprising, we still have problems with BD/SM in this country, whether it is the religious wrong or some of the uber liberal types, especially unreconstructd 1970's style radical feminists (ever read what Gloria Steinham had to say about S/M? Or the sex crimes ADA in NYC until several years ago, Linda Fairstein?) but India as a whole is fucked up sexually, I talk to the Indian guys I work with and even they make jokes about it. The Indians, probably not without cause, blame the British for this, that the prudish, uptight attitudes about sex in India are a direct result of British attitudes, and having read what i have about britain, it is probably true, the UK as a country traditionally seemed to be one gigantic sex hangup (at least in public).....GLBT people, S/M, I am sure they all face incredible hurdles there. I would argue that an Indian Sexologist is an oxymoron, given the culture.

It is ironic, because as the Kama Sutra showed, this was not always true.

 

[Netzach]

It's a thorny issue over there though, as it is here. Abuse IS rampant within the culture, abuse is first being addressed in many communities, abuse is completely NOT addressed in many communities.

Of course, it varies hugely. India is first second and third world, sometimes no different from London, sometimes a world away.

It's one thing to be indignant about being misrepresented, but when your culture hasn't got a burning bride tradition, you may forget it's much less important to be wary about free to be you and me pervy and much more important to be abuse-aware.

I used to get very frustrated with the idea that only the privileged could legitimately enjoy pain or explore the dimensions of it, but I'm beginning to warm up to that possibility.

HOWEVER, that said, I think this is incredibly cool, and really interesting. I wonder about cultural markers a lot - and how BDSM is going to look and sound with that sensibility. As things get more global, are the aesthetics going to change? If you're Hindu, leather and studs suddenly become a WHOLE lot more transgressive and possibly blasphemous. (Against the law there, not leather, but blasphemy)

 

[Shankara20]

"He says in the last 20 years, at least 1% of his patients came with complaints about their partner's demand for a BDSM lifestyle."

"If this kind of bondage, domination and sadomasochism is the only means by which a person gets aroused, then I would term it as sexually problematic behaviour," says Dr Reddy.


I wonder if Dr. Reddy might be talking about the demand that a partner partake in the "lifestyle"? That, I would agree, would be "sexually problematic behaviour,".

Just sayin"...

 

[DVS]

"He says in the last 20 years, at least 1% of his patients came with complaints about their partner's demand for a BDSM lifestyle."

"If this kind of bondage, domination and sadomasochism is the only means by which a person gets aroused, then I would term it as sexually problematic behaviour," says Dr Reddy.


I wonder if Dr. Reddy might be talking about the demand that a partner partake in the "lifestyle"? That, I would agree, would be "sexually problematic behaviour,".

Just sayin"...

Yes, I thought about that, too. He might have been commenting on the people who were unhappy because they didn't have a compatible partner. It is illegal in India. I still think he is against the whole deal, though.

 

[Scentofawoman]

I kind of look wearied eyed at this. Almost every marriage I know in India is arranged. It's rare to find a love marriage. Then to get a man who knows BDsM? Hindi movies still have men slapping woman in the face and throwing them out by their hair in 2012. I think a woman would agree to about anything if it meant not losing her home, family, even the family she comes from.

I have stood up to my cousin once, only thing that saved me from being smacked was I was from the "USA" and I grew up "differently."

 

[Shankara20]

I kind of look wearied eyed at this. Almost every marriage I know in India is arranged. It's rare to find a love marriage. Then to get a man who knows BDsM? Hindi movies still have men slapping woman in the face and throwing them out by their hair in 2012. I think a woman would agree to about anything if it meant not losing her home, family, even the family she comes from.

I have stood up to my cousin once, only thing that saved me from being smacked was I was from the "USA" and I grew up "differently."

Good point, I failed to take into account the larger cultural context. Thanks