In Laws = Incest?
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Might be taboo, but it's not incest, as there is no common blood.
Erotic couplings, would be my suggestion.
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It is taboo, but not incest, and in the case where the wife is dead it might not even be taboo anymore.
I have a sister-in-law story in I/T that's had a lot of views and on-going interest, but the score never got close to Hot. The sister-in-law aspect is one reason. The fact that it's very short (something like 2100 words) might be a bigger reason.
Your story is probably a better fit in EC. The downside of posting in EC is that the readers aren't as engaged as they are in I/T. Stories seem to get fewer votes and comments and the scores aren't great. But then, they haven't been all that great in I/T recently, either.
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Because lit allows 'real incest' in-law stuff tends to not be overly popular. Its like non alcoholic beer. The taste, but with no bite.
Notwise is right in both EC would work, but its low voted.
Here's another option. How much younger is the sister? Make her significantly younger and you have a story that could work very well in mature.
Notwise is right in both EC would work, but its low voted.
Here's another option. How much younger is the sister? Make her significantly younger and you have a story that could work very well in mature.
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No one reads erotic coupling. Forget about posting that there.
I've posted plenty, dozens of stories, mother-in-law, sister-in-law, brother-in-law,
and father-in-law in incest.
It doesn't have to be blood related to fall into the incest category. Their relationship can still be deemed incestuous.
Moreover, if they are living and cohabiting under the same roof and have a sexual relationship, that will be deemed incestuous.
Having written more than 2,000 stories here, trust me, I know (lol).
If you want readers to read your story, post it under the incest category.
Good luck with your story. May you get a million views.
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Not incest, and why is it taboo? In some cultures, albeit ancient, it was considered appropriate.
As there's nothing all that odd about the pairing, EC is the place. I suppose if it was the previous wife's dying wish that the husband and sister get together, you could make an interesting case for LW. The flame wars would be something to see.
As there's nothing all that odd about the pairing, EC is the place. I suppose if it was the previous wife's dying wish that the husband and sister get together, you could make an interesting case for LW. The flame wars would be something to see.
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I don't think that either Literotica or a lot of the Incest section readers adhere too closely to strict definitions of what incest is. I wouldn't hesitate to put in-laws in the incest category (and this is a bit taboo, which is included in that category) over any other category here (unless it was a same sex pairing).
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I posted a story in the incest category when I first starting writing here under BostonFictionWriter.
Mother-in-law Strips Naked. Within 60 days, the story had 850 thousand hits. I pulled the story to publish it as an e-Book. I can't imagine how many hits it would have had ten years later.
My next story that I posted in the incest category was Sex with My Sister-in-law, Samantha. Within 60 days, that story had 650,000 hits and I pulled that story to publish as an e-Book. Again, I can't imagine how many hits it would have had ten years later.
As far as I'm concerned and the resident perverts who read incest stories are concerned, in-law stories are titillatingly forbidden enough to post in the incest category. It would be a mistake to post an in-law story anywhere else.
Moreover, as we haven't read the story, we don't know what's in the story that's incestuous or not. This site is crazy for incest and both writers and readers have always been agreeable to stretch the boundaries as to what's incest and incestuous to include in-laws.
Anyone who thinks that this story should be posted in such an innocuous category as Erotic Couplings has obviously never written an incest story (lol).
Mother-in-law Strips Naked. Within 60 days, the story had 850 thousand hits. I pulled the story to publish it as an e-Book. I can't imagine how many hits it would have had ten years later.
My next story that I posted in the incest category was Sex with My Sister-in-law, Samantha. Within 60 days, that story had 650,000 hits and I pulled that story to publish as an e-Book. Again, I can't imagine how many hits it would have had ten years later.
As far as I'm concerned and the resident perverts who read incest stories are concerned, in-law stories are titillatingly forbidden enough to post in the incest category. It would be a mistake to post an in-law story anywhere else.
Moreover, as we haven't read the story, we don't know what's in the story that's incestuous or not. This site is crazy for incest and both writers and readers have always been agreeable to stretch the boundaries as to what's incest and incestuous to include in-laws.
Anyone who thinks that this story should be posted in such an innocuous category as Erotic Couplings has obviously never written an incest story (lol).
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No one is saying you can't, but it won't go over as well because people there are used to 'full out incest'. If you're into incest that's why you come here. Step is allowed all over the pay market and a lot of other sites, but not many feature the 'real thing'
Although Taboo can apply to many things-and different to each person-ever since Kay Parker's classic up until how huge incest is in porn (shhh the US has one moral stance in what can be sold and its incest
) it has become synonymous with incest.By rights interracial is taboo, and sure sis or mom or father in law is taboo because the loose definition for taboo is something society would frown upon. For that matter fucking your best friend's wife could be seen as taboo.
But words lose their original meanings and gain new ones as time goes on (gay?) and Taboo now immediately conjures up images of family. True family. Right or wrong, doesn't matter. It is what it is.
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You're so busy reading your own crap you don't bother looking at anyone's posts. No one said it shouldn't go there, they're saying it may not go over as well and offering a couple of options.
Amazing that as all knowing as you are, you never considered a much older brother in law would work very well in mature, especially with a romance angle and some conflict.
But I guess you'd have to think to come up with that suggestion.
And I normally don't get caught up in number here because we all know there's too many variables to make them mean a lot, but since I've been here? I've owned you in incest. Lock stock and barrel. Not quantity because I only write or publish when I want to not "look at how many stories I have' but overall 'success' here? You've been looking at my ass for years.
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In the Table of Kindred and Affinity which as you all know is just about the last page of the Book of Common Prayer; (Good little book first published 1549, sold rather well) ones deceased wife's sister or deceased husbands brother were considered within the bounds of consanguity and marriage to such was forbidden, despite a lack of blood relationship.
This rule was changed in English Law in the 1960's (I think) and the first beneficiary was the revolting Billy Butlin who married his deceased wife's sister.
UK has never forbidden first cousin marriage like some parts of the USA. In fact one set of my great grandparents were first cousins. They were small landowning farmers who wanted to keep their land together.
Re Hands in the Dark's suggestion it might be even better if the family were fundamentalist Christians claiming to do 'Gods will.' in reverting to old Testament norms. Quoting Leviticus in a shagging scene might be a new departure for Lit but I s'pose those good people would never read smut, would they?
This rule was changed in English Law in the 1960's (I think) and the first beneficiary was the revolting Billy Butlin who married his deceased wife's sister.
UK has never forbidden first cousin marriage like some parts of the USA. In fact one set of my great grandparents were first cousins. They were small landowning farmers who wanted to keep their land together.
Re Hands in the Dark's suggestion it might be even better if the family were fundamentalist Christians claiming to do 'Gods will.' in reverting to old Testament norms. Quoting Leviticus in a shagging scene might be a new departure for Lit but I s'pose those good people would never read smut, would they?
SusanJillParker
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I'm happy for your boastful success. Good luck to you. I hope you break a record and sell 100 copies of your latest e-Book.
Only, you write porn and I write erotica. You have an editor and I don't use one. You write to sell e-Books that don't sell and I write paid in advance stories for fans that earn me more money than all your e-Books combined.
If you think you own incest and that I even casually glance at your fat, dwarf ass, you'd be mistaken. Besides, who cares? Obviously, you do? So what? I have better things to do than to think that I'm in some kind of convoluted competition with you, a high school graduate who barely finished high school.
I write my stories to make a living. Whatever my fans hire me to write is what I write and that, my short friend, is not easy to do. Constantly changing gears, I'm one of the few authors here who routinely writes in nearly every category. I pander to whoever pays me to write whatever they need for me to write. I write any story that as long as it doesn't have underage characters and as long as it doesn't include having sex with animals.
You write e-Books in the way that a broker throws darts at a dartboard while hoping to pick a winner. You write e-Books in the way that a gambler at a track buys win, place, and show tickets on every dead dog. You write a variety of incestuous e-Books in the way that someone throws out a blanket while hoping that someone will sit on it.
Tell me, why would someone buy an e-Book when they can read stories for free here? The answer: They don't and they won't.
Now, tell me, why would someone pay me to write stories when they can read stories for free here? Because I write the stories that they always look to find but can't find. I write their very own custom and personalized stories.
Don't fret. I accept your apology.
"Follow the Yellow Brick Road."
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Give it a twist .... keep the dead wife in the story as a spirit/ghost guiding the husband in his pursuit.
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That's a good twist. I like that idea. Sort of like Marion in Topper (lol).
A creative writer could have lots of fun with that.
SusanJillParker
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Based on the '45 novel by R. A. Dick (I would have changed my name if I were him) The Ghost and Mrs. Muir of '68 with Hope Lang as a remake from Gene Tierney and Rex Harrison movie of '47.
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Re Hands in the Dark's suggestion it might be even better if the family were fundamentalist Christians claiming to do 'Gods will.' in reverting to old Testament norms. Quoting Leviticus in a shagging scene might be a new departure for Lit but I s'pose those good people would never read smut, would they?
Wasn't just the Jews. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Levirate_marriage
I didn't know about this one, and I love the tiitle: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Widow_conservation . It's actually a good solution to a real problem, when you consider the times. They finally worked around the downsides with a pension fund in the mid 1600s, which strikes me as forward-thinking for the time.
To the comment that using the Bible as a plot bunny for lots of sex is a fun idea and will irritate the religious; maybe you should take a look at the old testament some day. It has stuff that couldn't be written on Lit, and while the descriptions aren't graphic (unless you consider the blatantly suggestive Song of Solomon), it still covers a lot of ground. The stuff with Lot's daughters could be written here as Incest (assuming the youngest daughter was over 17, and in that case she might have been); it probably already has because it's one of those timeless themes.
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But that is the entire point. You will then irritate a whole new bunch of people. Your response proves its efficacy.
But Thumper is definitely out, Laurel won't have any stories with beasties involved - even if they are only imaginary 'wabbits.'
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This again. I'll promote my piece What Is Incest? and note that some LIT readers accept non-consanguineous sex as incest but most I-T fans see anything but parent- or sibling-fucking as vanilla. If I write of cousin sex, I also throw in a parent or child or sibling, just to be safe. LIT readers are not moral or legal authorities; they are slavering hounds hungry for the next slab of raw meat tossed their way.
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In the Table of Kindred and Affinity which as you all know is just about the last page of the Book of Common Prayer; (Good little book first published 1549, sold rather well) ones deceased wife's sister or deceased husbands brother were considered within the bounds of consanguity and marriage to such was forbidden, despite a lack of blood relationship.
This rule was changed in English Law in the 1960's (I think) and the first beneficiary was the revolting Billy Butlin who married his deceased wife's sister.
UK has never forbidden first cousin marriage like some parts of the USA. In fact one set of my great grandparents were first cousins. They were small landowning farmers who wanted to keep their land together.
Re Hands in the Dark's suggestion it might be even better if the family were fundamentalist Christians claiming to do 'Gods will.' in reverting to old Testament norms. Quoting Leviticus in a shagging scene might be a new departure for Lit but I s'pose those good people would never read smut, would they?
On this basis, the story could go into the Incest/Taboo category as being the Taboo part.
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Could go either way. I can easily imagine a relatively straightforward love story between a widower and his former sister in law that wouldn't seem illicit at all. And I can easily imagine a furtive story where the same characters feel both repelled and enamored of their newfound attraction thanks to their previous relationship. Which do you prefer?
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Something has puzzled me for ages:
From Wiki:- "Levirate marriage is a type of marriage in which the brother of a deceased man is obliged to marry his brother's widow, and the widow is obliged to marry her deceased husband's brother."
At no time in the explanations is the marriage status of the said brother given.
Does it matter if he's already [and happily] married ?
From Wiki:- "Levirate marriage is a type of marriage in which the brother of a deceased man is obliged to marry his brother's widow, and the widow is obliged to marry her deceased husband's brother."
At no time in the explanations is the marriage status of the said brother given.
Does it matter if he's already [and happily] married ?
