Impeachment Thread

Because he is the WORST person to ever run for President. He is a fool and a braggart, a bull shit artist and general all round asshole. Nothing personal. :rolleyes:

According to Trump, the FBI is lying, Robert Mueller is lying, our ENTIRE intelligence community is lying, the media is lying and now even Trump's OWN hand-picked ambassadors, staffers and former aides are lying!

But according to Trump, Everything Putin says is the truth! Trump sides with that Russian dictator over American journalists, the American military, the U.S. intelligence community and America's career diplomats.

Yep, Trump really IS the worst person in U.S. history to ever run for president!
 
And he and his buddies are up to their necks in corruption in this, which started months before the infamous telephone call. One of Trump's bestest buddies got convicted on all counts for this sort of behavior just today. That makes six of Trump's closest cohorts so far. The board Trumpettes have nothing to offset this disgusting Trumpian behavior.

An excellent indicator of guilt is who is willing to testify under oath and who isn't.

Donald Trump, Mike Pence, Mick Mulvaney, Rudy Giuliani, Rick Perry, Michael Pompeo and William Barr have all refused to testify under oath. This indicates they've all got something to hide.
 
#429 above.
I don't like trump and agree that he is a genuine arsehole of the first order and probably the greatest disaster of a president in the history of the USA. But to be fair to him he is right about the federal investigation and intelligence agencies in the states. They have a long history of incompetence and corruption going all the way back to their inception.
You yanks could do a lot worse than disband them and contract the job out to the Mounties.
 
Trump's handpicked ambassador just told the world that Trump and Trump's closest advisers are all criminals, and Trump reflexively claims a major victory!

What the hell is WRONG with Trump??

There is nothing new about this. It's part of what makes a narcissist a narcissist: he has the ability to sincerely believe anything he wants to be true IS true. It's why there's no point whatsoever in trying to reason with people like him. Or his supporters, for that matter, who honestly seem to think the Republicans always treated Obama with respect. How do you square that with reality? You can't, simple as that.
 
It's pretty dramatic when you realize that a dozen people; ambassadors, White House officials, National Security officials; all testified under oath AGAINST TRUMP, and NOT ONE PERSON WAS WILLING TO TESTIFY UNDER OATH TO DEFEND HIM!
 
Trump sues to hide his tax returns.

Trump confiscates his translators notes.

He orders aides not to testify.

He fights to intimidate and silence the whistleblower.

INNOCENT PEOPLE DON'T DO THIS SHIT!!!!
 
Trump sues to hide his tax returns.

Trump confiscates his translators notes.

He orders aides not to testify.

He fights to intimidate and silence the whistleblower.

INNOCENT PEOPLE DON'T DO THIS SHIT!!!!



Eric Holder is still in contempt of Congress and Court. STFU with your nonsense!
 
It’s long been assumed that Putin has dirt on Trump, and now we learn that Giuliani has dirt on Trump.

Maybe Trump is just a puppet, and we should be looking for a Putin-Giuliani connection. Nuñes might be in it somewhere, too.
 

Trump-loathing ex-GOP lawmaker lays out powerful roadmap for Democrats to make obstruction central to impeachment


Speaking with MSNBC host David Gura on Sunday morning, former Rep. Dave Jolly (R-FL ) said that, if Democrats are intent on impeaching President Donald Trump, they need to focus on making the case for obstruction of justice.

Then he provided the party he used to oppose with a roadmap to move the charge to the forefront of their investigation of the president.

“We have in the Mueller report, the three elements of obstruction of justice,” Jolly explained. “They involve [former White House counsel] Doug McGahn under oath testifying, giving testimony to Mueller. So we have the underlying charge already satisfied.”

Monday should give verdict in the McGahn subpoena case, get him in front of the committee asap and drive the Obstruction charge to the Headlines. The idea that the Dem's would disregard the Obstruction is crazy. Bob put in a lot of time and money to prove the many instances of obstruction, let's not waste his efforts!
 
Can't refute the facts so resorts to insults .

Refute what?

Trump sues to hide his tax returns.
What law requires a president to provide his tax returns

Trump confiscates his translators notes.
Confidential dialogue with a foreign leader is privileged

He orders aides not to testify.
Executive privilege. Eric Holder was protected by exec priv

He fights to intimidate and silence the whistleblower.
He wants the whistleblower to testify

INNOCENT PEOPLE DON'T DO THIS SHIT!!!!
You do when you're prejudged.

So how does any of this make him not innocent?, normal article II privilege.
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Trump sues to hide his tax returns.
What law requires a president to provide his tax returns


There is a Law that says the IRS has to provide anyones tax return to the Ways and Means committee, but Munchkin broke it!

Lock Him The Fuck Up!
 
Trump sues to hide his tax returns.
What law requires a president to provide his tax returns


There is a Law that says the IRS has to provide anyones tax return to the Ways and Means committee, but Munchkin broke it!

Lock Him The Fuck Up!


For legislative purposes, not for witch hunts.
 
If Trump is so innocent, why is he preventing people who can defend him and can confirm his innocence from testifying?
 
Refute what?

Trump sues to hide his tax returns.
What law requires a president to provide his tax returns

Trump confiscates his translators notes.
Confidential dialogue with a foreign leader is privileged

He orders aides not to testify.
Executive privilege. Eric Holder was protected by exec priv

He fights to intimidate and silence the whistleblower.
He wants the whistleblower to testify

INNOCENT PEOPLE DON'T DO THIS SHIT!!!!
You do when you're prejudged.

So how does any of this make him not innocent?, normal article II privilege.
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The house committee can see any ones tax returns at any time .
Any notes taken are part of the Presidential record .
Exec priv does not apply to ex employees .
He wants the whistleblower named so he can put pressure on him and his family .Besides all the items brought up have been confirmed and as you should know his/her identity is protected by law
THE TRUTH SHALL SET YOU FREE except in this case where it could mean a long sentence .
 

Adam Schiff slaps aside CNN’s Tapper complaint that impeachment is partisan and puts it on the GOP


“Ultimately if only Democrats vote to impeach the president — president trump and republicans and maybe a couple of democrats do not vote to impeach him, vote against that, doesn’t that suggest that this is a partisan impeachment? won’t that hurt the credibility of the impeachment that only democrats vote to support?” Tapper asked.

“I think what it will mean, if we decide that we cannot accept this kind of conduct in the president of the united states, and the Republicans decide that because of the president’s party or because they’re afraid of a primary for whatever reason they cannot vote to support impeachment, I think it will mean a failure by the gop to put the country above their party, and it will have very long-term consequences,” he replied.

Impeach or find a new Party!:D
 

Trump-loathing ex-GOP lawmaker lays out powerful roadmap for Democrats to make obstruction central to impeachment




Monday should give verdict in the McGahn subpoena case, get him in front of the committee asap and drive the Obstruction charge to the Headlines. The idea that the Dem's would disregard the Obstruction is crazy. Bob put in a lot of time and money to prove the many instances of obstruction, let's not waste his efforts!

Obstruction of justice yes. But I'd like to see an obvious "He's a Russian spy" side impeachment point.
 
I love the way Trump says he only hires the best people.......but then he says that he doesn't know the people that he hired.

And he's never met the people that he hired.

And he certainly hasn't SPOKEN to any of the people that he hired!!

And if they testify under oath, you SHOULDN'T BELIEVE anything that these people say!!!!
 
KeithD writes: "Obstruction of justice yes. But I'd like to see an obvious "He's a Russian spy" side impeachment point."

Since the U.S. Senate is going to completely DESTROY this whole partisan House witchhunt, why not include "created the Antifa movement" or some other such silliness, Keith? If the Democrats are only going to end up embarrassing themselves, they may as well go all out, am I right?

spankednaked writes: "And if they testify under oath, you SHOULDN'T BELIEVE anything that these people say!!!!"

According to the Democratic Party, it's ONLY permissable to lie under oath about blow-jobs.

But being serious - assuming the House votes to impeach Trump in December, the U.S. Senate trial should begin in January (pulling Liz Warren, Kamala, Klobuchar, & Bernie off of the campaign trail just in time for all of the major primaries!) The Senate (and U.S. Supreme Court justice John Roberts) won't allow hearsay testimony, completely DESTROYING Adam Schiff's entire case, with the Senate wanting to hear from Hunter Biden (very likely destroying his dad's presidential hopes!) It'll be fun!
 
Because he (and they) are so NOT innocent, of course (as you are pointing out). :D

The Republican defense to the impeachment hearings seems NOT to claim that Trump is somehow innocent, but rather that Donald Trump has the power to do whatever he wants, even if it's illegal, improper, unconstitutional or even if it harms America's national security.
 

She's not the hero we deserve. She's the hero we need.

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I spent a decade watching impeachment hearings this week. Hours upon hours of puffed-up pols posturing and patronizing and waging war on our psyche through parliamentary procedure.

As the week was coming to a close, brain fried from staring deep into the pixelized abyss, navigating the two alternate universes being presented, trying to contain the bubbling contempt for all involved, contemplating a permanent death to our polity, it was then that she appeared. Rising from the coal ash to bring us new life.

It was Dr. Fiona Hill. Fiona Thee Stallion. Forestalling the coming winter by delivering a needed dose of Hot Fiona Fall.

A woman whose lore preceded her. At age 11, a young Jim Jordan type set one of her pigtails on fire while she was taking a test. With a flick of the wrist, she put the fire out with her own bare hands. And then finished the test. Unconfirmed legend has it that the young man then micturated in his underoos and was never seen from again.

Queen Fiona. First of her name.

Dr. Hill went into the Trump administration as an expert on Vladimir Putin, holding views of him that were far more negative than those of Trump, but sharing the president’s desire for rapprochement. Her left-wing friends at the Brookings Institute didn’t know why she was going to serve. The right-wing propaganda machine accused her of being a mole and subjected her to death threats. But she served anyway, doing the right thing when those around her were more tempted by power. She did not use the perch for fame, she did not testify with one eye on her professional future. Her friend Tom Wright told the New York Times, “I don’t think she was thinking, ‘I’m going to go out in a blaze of glory, take a moral stand and testify.’ That was definitely not her intention. She just wanted to do her job with no fuss or drama.”

I'll bet she could beat Donnie Boy,... with a quirt!:D:D
 
SecretSapphic writes: "The Republican defense to the impeachment hearings seems NOT to claim that Trump is somehow innocent, but rather that Donald Trump has the power to do whatever he wants, even if it's illegal, improper, unconstitutional or even if it harms America's national security."

The modern Democratic Party appears to be completely uninterested in following any rule of law, at least insofar as these impeachment inquiries are concerned. Adam Schiff has built his entire case mostly on hearsay evidence that will NOT be admissable in a U.S. Senate trial presided over by U.S. Supreme Court chief justice John Roberts!

Furthermore, Schiff WON'T be able to tell the president's defenders whom they can-or-can't call in to testify, as has happened in the House inquiries. In the senate trial, Joe & Hunter Biden may be called to testify on their dealings in the Ukraine, further ruining the former Vice President's chances to win his party's presidential nomination.

And, in the end, the jury will be the entire U.S. Senate, with Schiff needing a two-thirds majority to convict. He won't even get HALF of that! I doubt he'll even get Mitt Romney! The Senate will VINDICATE the president, and the blacklash will not only help Trump get re-elected in 2020, but it will ALSO very likely destroy Nancy Pelosi's speakership!
 
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