Immortality

[IrezumiKiss]

D'you want it? No?

I'm fucking about online and some say we might be reaching some version of it very soon. Dunno if in biological or digital form. But if it was an option, would you take it?

For me, no. There is a reason that we live and die. I understand this and I accept it and I will come to terms with my time when it comes, hopefully gracefully...BUT...the only reason I would accept immortality is to see the progress of humanity's greatness. Our beauty and everything that's possible to advance it. And in saying that, is saying that in the romantic sense, without acknowledging all the ugliness I'd be visualizing along with all that beauty.

Actually, you know what? That's (half) a load of shit. I just wanna live long enough to see humanity develop interstellar travel and visit other planets in real time. I don't even care if we meet aliens, I just wanna see us get to that tech point and then I'd be ghost. That's enough for me. I've been wanting that shit since I was a kid. True talk.

Actually, there is a species on this planet that is virtually immortal: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turritopsis_dohrnii

Actually, how many times did I say actually in this gahdamn post?

 

[Killswitch1]

I just want to live till November 8th so I can see Hillary beat the snot out of this punk and embarrass him and fuck all his supporters right in the ass.

 

[Hard_Rom]

Oops. Read poll as immorality. Will stick with my yes though.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tardigrade

Maybe not immortal but damn difficult to kill.

 

[pensivepoet]

Beats taking a chance that hell is real.
I'm pretty sure the whole GB would be tossed in as a group.
You know~a deal breaker.

 

[LIVINRFANTASIES]

Denny---<-----that's me! The male half

I found out for a second time in my life that I'm not immortal. Fathers' Day weekend in ER wasn't fun. Yet I'm here so maybe I am!
So I'll vote for the tits.

 

[BotanyBoy]

Yep....being able to live barring any major trauma would be the shiznit.

Then I could choose how I go when I'm ready to go.

 

[Colonel Hogan]

I'd take many more years if not total immortality if I could be healthy and active. No point in breathing just for the sake of breathing. But there is a lot I would like to do and see.

As for interstellar travel, c'mon, you're smart enough to know that isn't happening. Nothing moves faster than light. If a body with mass is pushed ever closer to the speed of light, the body would have to become harder and harder to push, so that its speed never actually reached or exceeded the speed of light, which we know to be the de facto maximum speed. In fact, by extension, if a material body were ever to reach the speed of light it would effectively have to have acquired an infinite mass. As a body approaches the speed of light, then, the energy put into pushing the body clearly can not be used to increase its velocity and must therefore go somewhere else.

You'll need to be immortal to have any hope of ever seeing interstellar space travel. But once you achieve that immortal state, I'm afraid you'll still be waiting forever.

 

[Jennifer]

No way. Death is the only time I'll be able to get some rest.

 

[Christobal]

Voted no. Current American society does not value age. Society decides, except for the very few, when you hit 50 you are no longer in touch. If you are 50 you can't deal with technological change and you ideas are outdated. If you are 60 and still productive it's a delightful surprise. Make 70 and all are amazed you are still active and coherent.

Maybe if everyone lived to be 500 that would change. I don't know how pleasant living through the change of attitudes would be.

On the bright side. If we all became immortal maybe the wisdom of those that lived through so much would be valued.

 

[pensivepoet]

As soon as they get that head transplant thingy worked out I'm gonna get me one.
If I like the new head, I'll put it on a new body.

 

[pensivepoet]

Noah lived to be 950 and liked to get drunk on wine.
Clearly alcohol helps.

 

[BotanyBoy]

Noah lived to be 950 and liked to get drunk on wine.
Clearly alcohol helps.

Well slap my mamma and call me BORNE AGAIN!!!

Time to get drunk bitches.....

 

[NOIRTRASH]

No. Most of you make life an ordeal.

 

[pensivepoet]

Well slap my mamma and call me BORNE AGAIN!!!

Time to get drunk bitches.....

Yeah, but he did have to build that boat and muck 7,567,882 stalls.
It wasn't all fun and games.

 

[Hard_Rom]

I'd take many more years if not total immortality if I could be healthy and active. No point in breathing just for the sake of breathing. But there is a lot I would like to do and see.

As for interstellar travel, c'mon, you're smart enough to know that isn't happening. Nothing moves faster than light. If a body with mass is pushed ever closer to the speed of light, the body would have to become harder and harder to push, so that its speed never actually reached or exceeded the speed of light, which we know to be the de facto maximum speed. In fact, by extension, if a material body were ever to reach the speed of light it would effectively have to have acquired an infinite mass. As a body approaches the speed of light, then, the energy put into pushing the body clearly can not be used to increase its velocity and must therefore go somewhere else.

You'll need to be immortal to have any hope of ever seeing interstellar space travel. But once you achieve that immortal state, I'm afraid you'll still be waiting forever.

There is still generational ships. If a sub can stay submerged for almost a year. In 200-500 years we should be able to build starships that can go 10 years in space at least. Alpha Centauri is only 4.5 ly a way or so. Some sort of ion drive or particle spewing engine of sorts could do the trick.

But you can only accelerate for half the distance and then must flip over to decelerate.

Not impossible!

I read an article which says that at the current rate of technological advancement we should be able to colonize the whole galaxy in 500,000 years. We can learn how by colonizing asteroids and suitable planets and moons in the next 500 or so.

We just need to think really long term. Which humans are not good at.

Intersolar may all that we require in the short term. Say 50,000 years.

The article that said to colonize the galaxy in 500k years was theorizing we may be alone in galaxy at least or someone else would have colonized the galaxy already.

 

[Christobal]

I'd take many more years if not total immortality if I could be healthy and active. No point in breathing just for the sake of breathing. But there is a lot I would like to do and see.

As for interstellar travel, c'mon, you're smart enough to know that isn't happening. Nothing moves faster than light. If a body with mass is pushed ever closer to the speed of light, the body would have to become harder and harder to push, so that its speed never actually reached or exceeded the speed of light, which we know to be the de facto maximum speed. In fact, by extension, if a material body were ever to reach the speed of light it would effectively have to have acquired an infinite mass. As a body approaches the speed of light, then, the energy put into pushing the body clearly can not be used to increase its velocity and must therefore go somewhere else.

You'll need to be immortal to have any hope of ever seeing interstellar space travel. But once you achieve that immortal state, I'm afraid you'll still be waiting forever.

Hmmm. Reminds me of the sound barrier. It was impossible until someone did it. Do I know it's possible? Of course not but I'm optimistic.

 

[Hard_Rom]

Hmmm. Reminds me of the sound barrier. It was impossible until someone did it. Do I know it's possible? Of course not but I'm optimistic.

Faster than light is impossible. When you do the e=mc2 equation when you get to the speed of light you end up dividing by zero. You can't divide by zero it is unsolvable. E=MC2 is the simplified equation without units.

Warp drive gets around that by shortening the distance not increasing speed. You warp spacetime and then cross from one wave crest to another. It's a cheat in a way.

 

[Christobal]

Faster than light is impossible. When you do the e=mc2 equation when you get to the speed of light you end up dividing by zero. You can't divide by zero it is unsolvable. E=MC2 is the simplified equation without units.

Warp drive gets around that by shortening the distance not increasing speed. You warp spacetime and then cross from one wave crest to another. It's a cheat in a way.

What about folding space or wormholes?

 

[IrezumiKiss]

I'd take many more years if not total immortality if I could be healthy and active. No point in breathing just for the sake of breathing. But there is a lot I would like to do and see.

As for interstellar travel, c'mon, you're smart enough to know that isn't happening. Nothing moves faster than light. If a body with mass is pushed ever closer to the speed of light, the body would have to become harder and harder to push, so that its speed never actually reached or exceeded the speed of light, which we know to be the de facto maximum speed. In fact, by extension, if a material body were ever to reach the speed of light it would effectively have to have acquired an infinite mass. As a body approaches the speed of light, then, the energy put into pushing the body clearly can not be used to increase its velocity and must therefore go somewhere else.

You'll need to be immortal to have any hope of ever seeing interstellar space travel. But once you achieve that immortal state, I'm afraid you'll still be waiting forever.

There is still generational ships. If a sub can stay submerged for almost a year. In 200-500 years we should be able to build starships that can go 10 years in space at least. Alpha Centauri is only 4.5 ly a way or so. Some sort of ion drive or particle spewing engine of sorts could do the trick.

But you can only accelerate for half the distance and then must flip over to decelerate.

Not impossible!

I read an article which says that at the current rate of technological advancement we should be able to colonize the whole galaxy in 500,000 years. We can learn how by colonizing asteroids and suitable planets and moons in the next 500 or so.

We just need to think really long term. Which humans are not good at.

Intersolar may all that we require in the short term. Say 50,000 years.

The article that said to colonize the galaxy in 500k years was theorizing we may be alone in galaxy at least or someone else would have colonized the galaxy already.

Hmmm. Reminds me of the sound barrier. It was impossible until someone did it. Do I know it's possible? Of course not but I'm optimistic.

Faster than light is impossible. When you do the e=mc2 equation when you get to the speed of light you end up dividing by zero. You can't divide by zero it is unsolvable. E=MC2 is the simplified equation without units.

Warp drive gets around that by shortening the distance not increasing speed. You warp spacetime and then cross from one wave crest to another. It's a cheat in a way.

What about folding space or wormholes?

One good thing about the here and now is that our spacefaring destiny fantasizing and theorizing are based, or partially based, on possibilities. And each tech leapfrog we do gets us closer to it, based on available resources and focused mindsets.

None of us here are likely to see it happen, but I see two futures for us out there.

I mean, it's either this

http://images-cdn.moviepilot.com/images/c_fill,h_720,w_1280/t_mp_quality/ctnn8dvrvb84qrylh12j/star-trek-tv-show-may-be-an-anthology-series-that-spans-decades-starting-from-tng-the-ne-933600.jpg

or this

http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/alienanthology/images/c/ca/ProtoAlien.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20120630193745

and we just won't know until we get to be able to do it, whenever that will be.

 

[cleaver]

ill be good and fair and answer straight;

that i'm fully amazed and engulfed
by the hand i've been dealt in this life...

part of which includes the thought of anything super-more

but just that.

there is plenty here now
if you pay attention.

 

[Christobal]

ill be good and fair and answer straight;

that i'm fully amazed and engulfed
by the hand i've been dealt in this life...

part of which includes the thought of anything super-more

but just that.

there is plenty here now
if you pay attention.

DAMN. What he said!

 

[Not Normal]

No thanks.

 

[Conager]

Noah lived to be 950 and liked to get drunk on wine.
Clearly alcohol helps.

Preach the Word!

 

[Bookishleigh]

D'you want it? No?

I'm fucking about online and some say we might be reaching some version of it very soon. Dunno if in biological or digital form. But if it was an option, would you take it?

For me, no. There is a reason that we live and die. I understand this and I accept it and I will come to terms with my time when it comes, hopefully gracefully...BUT...the only reason I would accept immortality is to see the progress of humanity's greatness. Our beauty and everything that's possible to advance it. And in saying that, is saying that in the romantic sense, without acknowledging all the ugliness I'd be visualizing along with all that beauty.

Actually, you know what? That's (half) a load of shit. I just wanna live long enough to see humanity develop interstellar travel and visit other planets in real time. I don't even care if we meet aliens, I just wanna see us get to that tech point and then I'd be ghost. That's enough for me. I've been wanting that shit since I was a kid. True talk.

Actually, there is a species on this planet that is virtually immortal: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turritopsis_dohrnii

Actually, how many times did I say actually in this gahdamn post?

I voted Ice Cream Sundaes...because I figure they're calorie-free in relationship to immortality.

And I love that you are so optimistic about mankind and the planet. I personally think we're on a self-destructive path and I wonder why anyone chooses to procreate.

 

[MNGuy]

I would have the following conditions:

• To be able to time travel to any point in time. I don't want to be roaming the earth when our sun becomes a red giant and consumes earth.
• To remain healthy, and able to regenerate. It would suck to be an Immortal torso.
• Never get stuck.
• Be able to age shift. Live as a twenty-something until I get bored, then shift to a thirty-something.
• Have super powers. I would hate to be tortured by mortals for a long time.

Just a few I can think of off the top of my head.