If you were an Iraqi in Baghdad...

[p_p_man]

married with a couple of kids, a boy and a girl, under 7...

What would your feelings be right now?

ppman

 

[grrrly]

i'd be looking for a vest full of dynomite and a bus of christians & jews

 

[Guest]

 

[grrrly]

I'd still be hoping you'd die.

if I died, i'd take you with me

 

[p_p_man]

I think I'd be full of hatred for America...

knowing that she was trying to kill my young children...

ppman

 

[alltherage]

I think i might be very tired of being afraid.

 

[Guest]

 

[grrrly]

You're a filthy arab aren't you.

what gave it away? was it my camel tethered to my tent behind me?

 

[Guest]

 

[grrrly]

Your appearence,

Make me puke


Muslims give me shivers. I heave

my appereance? you think i look arab do you? lol i bet you'd still wanna fuck me

 

[HeavyStick]

Re: I think I'd be full of hatred for America...

knowing that she was trying to kill my young children...

ppman

Tom Brokaw (?SP?) said some very interesting things about his last visit to Iraq. The Anti-American rhetoric is very strong. But once the Iraqi's are taken out of ear shot of other's they speak freely. Most say they know the only way Saddam can be toppled is with American help. Iraqi's don't want Saddam in power.

They (Iraqi's) have relatives in toher Muslim countries that have relations with Americans. They know they can have a Muslim identity after Saddam is toppled, they are just afraid of his two sons. It's the future that scares them.

 

[peachykeen]

In all seriousness, p_p, you can't presume to know what someone in this situation thinks. You're using a spurious debate technique which is unreasonable. I'm not saying we should not as individuals try to cultivate a sense of empathy; only that it is not a logical position from which to try to make an argument.

 

[grrrly]

In all seriousness, p_p, you can't presume to know what someone in this situation thinks. You're using a spurious debate technique which is unreasonable. I'm not saying we should not as individuals try to cultivate a sense of empathy; only that it is not a logical position from which to try to make an argument.

*yawn* it's saturday, come on

 

[Lost Cause]

One thought...

Anywhere but here!

 

[Guest]

Heh

 

[Guest]

 

[HeavyStick]

Yeah alright, wait till I get tanked up with a few shots of mind numbing rum

Mind numbing rum?

Tequila ok, whiskey sure thing. Rum?

You stupid tit.

 

[p_p_man]

In all seriousness, p_p, you can't presume to know what someone in this situation thinks. You're using a spurious debate technique which is unreasonable. I'm not saying we should not as individuals try to cultivate a sense of empathy; only that it is not a logical position from which to try to make an argument.

I think it is...

What was the general feeling in America when the Twin Towers fell?...

After the initial shock...hatred...

What would be the reaction of a father in Baghdad when his children are blown apart?...

The same...

ppman

 

[HeavyStick]

I think it is...

What was the general feeling in America when the Twin Towers fell?...

After the initial shock...hatred...

What would be the reaction of a father in Baghdad when his children are blown apart?...

The same...

ppman

look at my post (2 above)

 

[Guest]

Mind numbing rum?

Tequila ok, whiskey sure thing. Rum?

You stupid tit.

Sshhhh! It'll rot his liver faster.

 

[zipman]

I think it is...

What was the general feeling in America when the Twin Towers fell?...

After the initial shock...hatred...

What would be the reaction of a father in Baghdad when his children are blown apart?...

The same...

ppman

As a New Yorker, my first reaction was shock, then anger, then sadness, then determination to see terrorism stopped.

Hatred never entered my mind.

 

[peachykeen]

As a New Yorker, my first reaction was shock, then anger, then sadness, then determination to see terrorism stopped.

Hatred never entered my mind.

My thoughts, exactly. No hatred. Endless sadness and dismay, but not hatred.

 

[p_p_man]

My thoughts, exactly. No hatred. Endless sadness and dismay, but not hatred.

Probably because it didn't touch you personally, and it came suddenly without warning...

Our father in Baghdad has had weeks in the knowledge that an almost continuous rain of death is going to fall on his city very soon now.

I can't see how he cannot feel hate towards a country that is already depicted as Satan...

And if I were him, I think I would feel the same.

I'd feel why can't America leave me alone. All I want is to work, provide for my family, keep out of harm's way and live a full and happy a life as possible.

What right has America to drop its bombs on me...

That's what I would probably be thinking right now...

ppman

 

[Shaq]

Re: Re: I think I'd be full of hatred for America...

Tom Brokaw (?SP?) said some very interesting things about his last visit to Iraq. The Anti-American rhetoric is very strong. But once the Iraqi's are taken out of ear shot of other's they speak freely. Most say they know the only way Saddam can be toppled is with American help. Iraqi's don't want Saddam in power.

They (Iraqi's) have relatives in toher Muslim countries that have relations with Americans. They know they can have a Muslim identity after Saddam is toppled, they are just afraid of his two sons. It's the future that scares them.

I don't think is accurate of most Iraqis. There are enough resistance groups in Iraq that toppling Sadam through a coup is possible if there was enough of a backing. I don't see many Iraquis saying "We really do want America to choose the goverment for my country."


The prevailing thought I keep hearing expressed. "We don't have anything against AMERICA, we just hate their government."

Touche.

 

[roxanne69]

I would be frightened but I would be excited that the Americans were coming to free us all from Sadam's tyranny.