If Not For Coca Cola...would Santa Claus Still Exist?

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From Snopes.com:

The Santa Claus figure, although not yet standardized, was ubiquitous by the late 19th century. Santa was portrayed as both large and small; he was usually round but sometimes of normal or slight build; and he dressed in furs (like Belsnickle) or cloth suits of red, blue, green, or purple. A Boston printer named Louis Prang introduced the English custom of Christmas cards to America, and in 1885 he issued a card featuring a red-suited Santa. The chubby Santa with a red suit (like an "overweight superhero") began to replace the fur-dressed Belsnickle image and the multicolored Santas.

At the beginning of the 1930s, the burgeoning Coca-Cola company was still looking for ways to increase sales of their product during winter, then a slow time of year for the soft drink market. They turned to a talented commercial illustrator named Haddon Sundblom, who created a series of memorable drawings that associated the figure of a larger than life, red-and-white garbed Santa Claus with Coca-Cola.

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If not for the standardization of the "American, Coca Cola" Santa...would he have survived at all?

Discuss.

Lance
 
you proved your point....
let's see you now take back culture....


I SAY leave a bottle of "C" for SANTA...
 
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We'd all be fucking heathens dancing around a pagan topiary if not for Coca-Cola. Thank goodness for caffeine, sugar, and cocaine.
 
concrete said:

let's see you now take back culture....

Who's to say some other popular product won't co-opt some other existing minor tradition and do a hostile takeover of Christmas?

After all, the holiday used to belong to the Christians before it was taken over by Coca Cola and Mattel...
 
Lancaster

the day at the mall made me realize ,you're concept was lost ,,,long time and many "bucks" ago...


it's a holiday ..enjoy it...at least we don't have to work.
 
Re: Lancaster

concrete said:
the day at the mall made me realize ,you're concept was lost ,,,long time and many "bucks" ago...

The question is Do you think Santa Claus would be this dominant at Xmas if not for Coke?
 
I like SANTA.
I like Coke.
..
my wife likes Vanilla coke.....????
What will happen NOW......
 
If it wasn't for Coca Cola I wouldn't have decor for my kitchen and bedroom :D

As for Santa..who cares. ;)
 
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Lancecastor said:
The question is Do you think Santa Claus would be this dominant at Xmas if not for Coke?
the exploitation of the visual image would be changed...
but the underlying concept's + traditions ,would still hold true.
 
Santa was wearing red before Cocal Cola...

Just a little bit of history...

"That phrase was used again in 1822 in the now-classic poem by Dr. Clement Clarke Moore, "A Visit from St. Nicholas," more commonly know as "The Night Before Christmas." His verse gave an Arctic flavor to Santa's image when he substituted eight tiny reindeer and a sleigh for Irving's horse and wagon. It is Moore's description of Santa that we most often think of today: "He had a broad face, and a little round belly, that shook, when he laughed, like a bowl full of jelly."

Up to this point, Santa's physical appearance and the color of his suit were open to individual interpretation. Then in 1863, Thomas Nast, a German immigrant, gave us a visual image of the cheerful giver that was to later become widely accepted.

When Nast was asked to illustrate Moore's charming verse for a book of children's poems, he gave us a softer, kinder Santa who was still old but appeared less stern than the ecclesiastical St. Nicholas. He dressed his elfin figure in red and endowed him with human characteristics. Most important of all, Nast gave Santa a home at the North Pole. For twenty-three years, his annual drawings in Harpers Weekly magazine allowed Americans to peek into the magical world of Santa Claus and set the stage for the shaping of today's merry gentleman."

Though Coca Cola did finish of the image into today's figure...

"Artist Haddon Sundblom added the final touches to Santa's modern image. Beginning in 1931, his billboard and other advertisements for Coca Cola-Cola featured a portly, grandfatherly Santa with human proportions and a ruddy complexion. Sunblom's exuberant, twinkle-eyed Santa firmly fixed the gift-giver's image in the public mind."

Merry Christmas

:D

p_p_man
 
One slight problem, Lance. I know this is splitting hairs. In 1885, Santa Claus COULDN'T look like an "overweight superhero". The word 'superhero' didn't exist until 1917. I believe it was first used in conjunction with Tarzan [the first mass-marketed superhero *ever*], but I could be wrong on that point. I DO know that superhero wasn't a word until the close of WWI. Check a dictionary if you don't believe me.

While its all well and good to quote online articles, something like that should have jumped out at you as false ;-)




I did warn you that I was back :-D.

Lancecastor said:
cokesant.jpg


From Snopes.com:

The Santa Claus figure, although not yet standardized, was ubiquitous by the late 19th century. Santa was portrayed as both large and small; he was usually round but sometimes of normal or slight build; and he dressed in furs (like Belsnickle) or cloth suits of red, blue, green, or purple. A Boston printer named Louis Prang introduced the English custom of Christmas cards to America, and in 1885 he issued a card featuring a red-suited Santa. The chubby Santa with a red suit (like an "overweight superhero") began to replace the fur-dressed Belsnickle image and the multicolored Santas.

At the beginning of the 1930s, the burgeoning Coca-Cola company was still looking for ways to increase sales of their product during winter, then a slow time of year for the soft drink market. They turned to a talented commercial illustrator named Haddon Sundblom, who created a series of memorable drawings that associated the figure of a larger than life, red-and-white garbed Santa Claus with Coca-Cola.

~~~~~~~~

If not for the standardization of the "American, Coca Cola" Santa...would he have survived at all?

Discuss.

Lance
 
I think Coca-Cola's sales would have stayed brisk year-round if they would have kept one of the original ingredients in the recipe.
Maybe that's the real answer to the question — would there have been a need for Coca-Cola to foster this image of Santa and soft drink if a tiny bit of cocaine was left in every bottle?
 
Re: Re: If Not For Coca Cola...would Santa Claus Still Exist?

ubertroll said:
One slight problem, Lance. I know this is splitting hairs. In 1885, Santa Claus COULDN'T look like an "overweight superhero". The word 'superhero' didn't exist until 1917. I believe it was first used in conjunction with Tarzan [the first mass-marketed superhero *ever*], but I could be wrong on that point. I DO know that superhero wasn't a word until the close of WWI. Check a dictionary if you don't believe me.

While its all well and good to quote online articles, something like that should have jumped out at you as false ;-)




I did warn you that I was back :-D.

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