Idiots!

Failure to answer the fucking question and then dodging it by attempting to deflect to circular nonsense while thinking you're being so clever about it that no one noticed.

Do you have any other obviously stupid questions you want to ask?

She asked an open-ended hypothetical question with zero context. If she had one, she could just point out a specific instance of Fauci being contradictory so I can fully address that question.

I have noticed that you just chime in to interject nothing but nastiness to a conversation. Kinda sad to live that way.
 
She asked an open-ended hypothetical question with zero context. If she had one, she could just point out a specific instance of Fauci being contradictory so I can fully address that question.

I have noticed that you just chime in to interject nothing but nastiness to a conversation. Kinda sad to live that way.

Still not an answer to the question.
 
I have left his game of circular dodging, so he can go argue with himself.

He will lose that argument.

He's already given himself a participation trophy and claimed victory by forfeit.
 
"Dom" likes to be in charge of the discussion he isn't qualified to participate in.

Connie likes to chime in and say nothing as he has no comprehension of the discussion taking place.
 
So what? It's not even a valid question as none of you have been able to point to a specific instance.

Go read the question again. Then come back and tell us what confused you about it.
 
It's odd how consistently substantively deficient the the rotating cast of quarrelsome posters are. None of them display any real interest in or knowledge of the issues up for discussion that they wade in on.

They proudly proclaim membership with the "smart" team that has all the morally superior positions, that is well informed, and has carefully reasoned. None of their self characterizations are accurate, but their projections of their opponents purported shortcomings are dead on for them.

You could not invent a worse debate team, but yet they "win" each and every exchange when they usually have not even posited an argument, much less advanced one.

Where do they all come from? Who "trained" them? Who told them they their rhetorical style was effective or interesting?

Obviously, the Dunning-Kruger effect applies here as they clearly believe they are proficient in rhetorical debate and up to speed on the issues up for discussion, but they are all so oddly similar in how they approach any and all discussions. They must have someone modeling this style for them.
 
They are all graduates of Monty Python's Argument Clinic.

That's all they know, so it's all they do.



It's odd how consistently substantively deficient the the rotating cast of quarrelsome posters are. None of them display any real interest in or knowledge of the issues up for discussion that they wade in on.

They proudly proclaim membership with the "smart" team that has all the morally superior positions, that is well informed, and has carefully reasoned. None of their self characterizations are accurate, but their projections of their opponents purported shortcomings are dead on for them.

You could not invent a worse debate team, but yet they "win" each and every exchange when they usually have not even posited an argument, much less advanced one.

Where do they all come from? Who "trained" them? Who told them they their rhetorical style was effective or interesting?

Obviously, the Dunning-Kruger effect applies here as they clearly believe they are proficient in rhetorical debate and up to speed on the issues up for discussion, but they are all so oddly similar in how they approach any and all discussions. They must have someone modeling this style for them.
 
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It's odd how consistently substantively deficient the the rotating cast of quarrelsome posters are. None of them display any real interest in or knowledge of the issues up for discussion that they wade in on.

They proudly proclaim membership with the "smart" team that has all the morally superior positions, that is well informed, and has carefully reasoned. None of their self characterizations are accurate, but their projections of their opponents purported shortcomings are dead on for them.

You could not invent a worse debate team, but yet they "win" each and every exchange when they usually have not even posited an argument, much less advanced one.

Where do they all come from? Who "trained" them? Who told them they their rhetorical style was effective or interesting?

Obviously, the Dunning-Kruger effect applies here as they clearly believe they are proficient in rhetorical debate and up to speed on the issues up for discussion, but they are all so oddly similar in how they approach any and all discussions. They must have someone modeling this style for them.

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Glad you realized that I was holding up a mirror for you and your ilk. Feel free to gaze deeply into it.
 
She asked an open-ended hypothetical question with zero context. If she had one, she could just point out a specific instance of Fauci being contradictory so I can fully address that question.

I have noticed that you just chime in to interject nothing but nastiness to a conversation. Kinda sad to live that way.

Tim rapey is nothing but an angry know it all loser. Follow his advice and you too can be an incel living with cats.:)
 
Valid.

AOC graduated with honors in economics and cannot do basic arithmetic or understand even rudimentary statistics.

The thread title sure attracted them, didn't it?
 
I don't deny anything. Hundreds of thousands of people die every year in the US. Last year alone there were more than 32,000 deaths from influenza. No one shut down the entire planetary economy over it. We don't wear masks in public because of it either.

With influenza there is a vaccine, many people die because they refuse to take advantage of medical science. COVID-19 to a certain degree is an unknown entity but the things we do know, what its capable of doing and what segment of the population it devastates is public knowledge, so to suggest that every person is an island unto his/herself and unaware of being infected you can't infect someone who is at a disadvantage I find irresponsible. I'm not saying wearing a mask 24/7 is any kind of a sustainable remedy however in a public confined area where people congregate, wearing a mask bodes well towards mitigation in that one area.

People dying isn't an argument intelligent people use to not take appropriate precautions when knowledge and means are available, that called suicide.

I never ever agreed on a shut down, that was a media, politically induced panic. The cure is worst than the disease. That's not my point. We should open everything up and each state give guidance to companies on how to mitigate spread, put additional responsibilities on companies and work environments, let them establish policies, if you shop at a local store you need PPE and PROVIDE IT!!!

Requiring that we do so now is nothing but hysteria that is DENIED BY THE SCIENCE.

Mask work but a little training in their use and proper disposal is necessary. Most people will get that training where they work and many prior military already have that training. If mask weren't effective they wouldn't use them in a medical facility or meat packing plants

A mask won't protect you AT ALL. All it takes is you touching something that has the virus on it and then touching your face. All it takes for you to transmit it to someone else is to touch your face and then touch another surface that someone else touches while the virus is still active.


Every media platform has been drilling into out heads CLEAN, CLEAN, CLEAN!! WASH YOUR HANDS AND CLEAN.


But wearing an ineffective piece of cloth doesn't insult anyone's intelligence?


Agreed, appropriate mask need to be made available, since there is a shortage crappy advice was given.


The fact that there's no way to know if someone is contagious by looking at them is no reason to deny everyone's rights under pain of punishment. Which is a LOT different than doing what makes you personally feel comfortable because "it makes sense" to you.

Pain of punishment is politics gone off the rails, that will only lead to anarchy.

Intrusion is still intrusion. It doesn't matter how much or how little, it's still a violation of my "space".

Policy actions have to be placed at the heart of the threat, anywhere else is abuse of power.

Not really on point because making DUI illegal was an act of the legislature, not the governor by fiat.

"State of Emergency" is a powerful mandate, meant to martial resources and protect citizens with the least amount of intrusion on individual rights and civil liberties. Again, they've gone off the rails

Why does this have to be mutually exclusive? Shouldn't we being the right things the right way, rather than doing stuff to make people feel better?



When government acts outside the law, they should expect to be called on it. When people act outside the law, they should also expect to be called on it.

I totally agree!

That's the nature of the game.


I'm not talking about legislating a law, I'm talking about a temporary order under the " STATE OF EMERGENCY ACT " Trump is doing the right thing by letting state governors manage their own situations. One size fits all is bullshit.

Don't want to knit pick what constitutes a mask ( there are industrial standards when evaluating a mask ) but I can tell you if everyone wears a certified mask its pretty effective. Making the public aware of proper use and disposal of a contaminated mask is part of the responsibility of a governors mandate.


I know your a legal beagle and enjoy reading your opinions, this is what I believe, doesn't make me a TRUMPETTE or anything else for that matter
 
The flu vaccine is 60-80% effective. The numbers he cited are WITH the vaccine being available. You cannot know that those that die in large numbers of influenza all refused vaccination. Since 20-40% of the Covid19 victims would have simply died of influenza if exposed (even with 100% vaccination) his point stands.

. . .and that doesn't even address the influenza deaths this season being attributed to Covid 19 "just to be safe "

We do nothing at all but try to avoid visiting vulnerable people when sick to try to mitigate those statistically certain yearly deaths. We do not insist that apparently healthy people wear (ineffective) masks around other apparently healthy people, "just in case."

We do not ask people to limit their travel to government approved "essential" trips to mitigate the possibility that you may be involved in an automobile accident where you or someone else may be injured or killed.

We do not even restrict the liberty of persons who are already wards of the State for their medical care to purchase any amount of illness-inducing dietary choices with their government-paid food programs.

We have decriminalized the willful act of exposing others to communicable diseases.

We do not require that people who have life threatening diseases make others aware of it or submit to quarantines.

We are quarantining healthy people when we know exactly who is, and who is not at risk.

Every single person who.is at actual risk, should be in actual (not pretend) isolation until the 70-80% of population samples show antibodies and everyone else should be engaging in regular social congress because that is the fastest, and most effective way to deprive the virus of available hosts.
 
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