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[robertreams]

Here is an idea I had, tell me what you think.

A coed group of young Christians (18-21), who are all into the chastity thing are at a religious weekend retreat. a mixed group of boys and girls are praying and meditating when Jesus appears to them to tell them their religious leaders have it all wrong, that sex is a wonderful and glorious thing and he and Mary Magdeline had a wonderful relationship that prudes have submerged in a false history.

He goes on to bless them and give His permission for promiscuity. They have a blast.

everyone goes home a changed person and an advocate for free sex

 

[CyranoJ]

Twisteroo (ripped-from-the-headlines edition)! The "Jesus" who appeared to them is actually a perverted con artist with a talent for lighting effects and a flair for the dramatic. He goes on to persuade his new "advocates" to pimp themselves out for his cult, or alternatively to act as the "brood of the Lamb." (Added points for working in the Rasputinian idea of "holy exhaustion"?)

 

[emap]

Honestly I'd be more inclined to believe the guys on that promise retreat coaxing the women into giving them sex. I mean most guys are only doing that promise stuff to talk with the women who do it.

 

[CyranoJ]

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[lovecraft68]

Honestly I'd be more inclined to believe the guys on that promise retreat coaxing the women into giving them sex. I mean most guys are only doing that promise stuff to talk with the women who do it.

Dead on.

At 17 I was already following Levay and Crowley, but attended a bible camp in upper state New York to...score with all the overly sexually frustrated preachers daughters.

It did not take much, trust me. But at least I was honest with myself that I was only going for that not because I bought into the BS being taught there.

 

[lovecraft68]

Twisteroo (ripped-from-the-headlines edition)! The "Jesus" who appeared to them is actually a perverted con artist with a talent for lighting effects and a flair for the dramatic. He goes on to persuade his new "advocates" to pimp themselves out for his cult, or alternatively to act as the "brood of the Lamb." (Added points for working in the Rasputinian idea of "holy exhaustion"?)

I've read too much about sick cults to ever want to pursue this angle. I think the worst was the guy they nailed a few years ago and there were actual audio tapes of him raping 12 year old girls...with their mothers in the room holding them down and telling them what a blessing this was.

I stopped following the story, but I hope the parents were charged just as he was.

All in the name of god

As the bumper sticker says "God save me from your people."

 

[CyranoJ]

I've read too much about sick cults to ever want to pursue this angle. I think the worst was the guy they nailed a few years ago and there were actual audio tapes of him raping 12 year old girls...with their mothers in the room holding them down and telling them what a blessing this was.

Yeah, all too many possible story scenarios have just completely horrific real-life analogues, so it's understandable (it wouldn't necessarily stop me but then I also managed to watch Ilsa, She-Wolf of the SS, which probably ranks as one of the most spectacularly offensive erotic films ever produced). Cult and ideology often bring out the worst in people -- that guy in your example actually physically getting parents to hold the kids down is a level of ballsiness I don't think even the Children of God or the Nuwaubians achieved, though, that's just insane.

 

[MatthewVett]

Here is an idea I had, tell me what you think.

A coed group of young Christians (18-21), who are all into the chastity thing are at a religious weekend retreat. a mixed group of boys and girls are praying and meditating when Jesus appears to them to tell them their religious leaders have it all wrong, that sex is a wonderful and glorious thing and he and Mary Magdeline had a wonderful relationship that prudes have submerged in a false history.

He goes on to bless them and give His permission for promiscuity. They have a blast.

everyone goes home a changed person and an advocate for free sex

Reminds me of Saint Oran of Iona... http://nihilobstat.info/2009/07/06/the-silencing-of-st-oran/

 

[Strangebuddy]

Maybe instead of a con-artist or Jesus, it's just a matter of a disillusioned counselor who decides to flip the script.

For example:

When Kelli was young, she believed everything taught to her at bible camps and never questioned it. Now that she's older and is about to graduate from college, her beliefs have changed quite a bit and she has a much more open interpretation of her religion. However, she's never shared her new beliefs with her family or friends because she's a bit of a small town celebrity (got to go to a big university on a scholarship and will be the first person in her family to pursue a career in a major city) and often got involved in the church functions and even as a mentor for some of the teenagers.

Before her last semester, she decides to take the summer off and gets the invite to be a counselor at a big jamboree/promise camp/whatever the hell. She takes the week before the camp to talk to teenage attendees one-on-one since they are either about to start college or are going into their final year of high school. She says she will answer any questions they have and to her surprise, most of the questions are about sex. Turns out they still are teaching that any type of pre-marital sex, even masturbation is a sin. This ticks off Kelli to no end and she decides to do something about it.

So, after at convincing a few of them that they aren't going to hell because they masturbate, she buys a lot of condoms and sneaks them along with her to give to any of the campers. She doesn't force any of them to have sex of course but tells them to come to her if they feel the urge so they can can get a condom and at least do it safely (which might lead to a couple of scenes where she has to help out a couple with their first time...or give some hands on assistance).

Now it can end there or it can go a more comedic route where she gets left alone to take care of the camp. When the campers ask for what she has left of the condoms, she hands them over, not thinking anything of it. Then, later that night, she sees all of the campers in the mess hall, having a huge orgy. Not only that but their experimentation has gotten out of hand, with everybody looking at increasingly niche porn for inspiration and all boundaries being removed (aka: everybody's decided to try both sexes out for the night, cousins are banging, siblings are screwing, everybody is creating makeshift sex toys, etc.). Now she has keep them from doing anything too stupid (remember, they're watching porn for inspiration) and possibly teaching them that moderation should be applied to all things...though of course after she gets them back in their rooms before the other counselors get back.

 

[robertreams]

What the hell? Making it not Jesus destroys the whole idea of the story!

Don't any of you think sex is good?

Jesus is reported to have a special loving relationship with his boyish apostle John, who loved to lie with his head on Jesus' chest, and with Mary Magdeline, with whom he is said to have had at least one child.

In my story I am talking about a group of young people who keep on smiling, fucking, and insisting that Jesus told them it was good, kids who felt his miraclulous presence and received his devine approval for fucking well and beautifully.

 

[LadyVer]

I don't know. Why does it have to be Christians? Why not some other religion?

 

[sr71plt]

Might be more interesting if Jesus says he's having it on with John, the "beloved" disciple.

 

[lovecraft68]

I also managed to watch Ilsa, She-Wolf of the SS, which probably ranks as one of the most spectacularly offensive erotic films ever produced).

Thank you for this, I was starting to think I was the only person who would admit to seeing that

 

[lovecraft68]

What the hell? Making it not Jesus destroys the whole idea of the story!

Don't any of you think sex is good?

Jesus is reported to have a special loving relationship with his boyish apostle John, who loved to lie with his head on Jesus' chest, and with Mary Magdeline, with whom he is said to have had at least one child.

In my story I am talking about a group of young people who keep on smiling, fucking, and insisting that Jesus told them it was good, kids who felt his miraclulous presence and received his devine approval for fucking well and beautifully.

I can't vouch for Jesus, but it seems a lot of young kids have felt catholic priests miraculous presence.

But what you're selling is interesting in the sense that you're giving Jesus the mentality associated with the Devil; if it feels good do it.

 

[CyranoJ]

Thank you for this, I was starting to think I was the only person who would admit to seeing that

Anytime you need to start a support group I'm right there.

Don't any of you think sex is good?

Fucking A. Admittedly I'm not much on Jesus, however, so I'm sorry if I'm not getting into the spirit. I'm sure happy nudist let's-get-it-on Jesus could be as perfectly fun as any of the darker, pervier spins thereon.

 

[robertreams]

Wow! The response to this idea is blowing my mind! I guess everyone but me thinks sex has to be associated with evil. That is kind of why I liked the idea, because it is so much a reversal of accepted "wisdom", but man I sure can see it would start a shitstorm if I wrote it.

I do believe, however, that all our religious folks have it all wrong. I truly believe that sex is good! And I see no reason why Jesus would not endorse it. Hell, his Father created it on the sixth day. ("Male and female created he them") (that's bible talk for "he intended them to fuck")

 

[CyranoJ]

There's a certain inevitable duality introduced by the fact that Jesus was originally the poster boy of a fervently anti-corporeal apocalypse cult.

On the other hand, a caution: declining to identify Jesus with good in no way connotes identifying sex with evil. (Notwithstanding the fact that in my case at least, there are certain variants of sex that I absolutely identify with evil but nevertheless have kinks for. So it goes.)

 

[slyc_willie]

Personally, I think Jesus was a dyed-in-the-wool free love advocate. Based on both the books that were included in the Bible and the books that weren't, he swung both ways. Good for him.

If handled the right way, a completely bi-sexual retreat (girl/boy, girl/girl, boy/boy) could be plausibly explained as a true interpretation of what Jesus originally intended . . . because he sure as hell (pardon the term) didn't intend an oppressive regime such as what the various Christian religions turned into.

 

[ShelbyBubbles]

Perhaps let the bible retreat turn into somewhat of an informal "sex education" weekend. Unplanned but after Jesus makes his appearance it alters the groups mindset about sex. They learn more of what "mans" laws of religion are vs what Jesus himself believes. So a group of, or ALL of the camp ends up being a weekend long orgy. Yet, if you're still speaking of some kind of religious group or "goodie goodies" then there still has to be some element of responsibility and self control. After all, it's the self control when it comes to sex that deems it good (consensual, experimental) or evil (rape). Then add in some twists. Like it's the younger generation of counselors that go nuts all over each other while the older more prudish (on the outside) priests watch the orgies through peepholes where they start getting so horned up they start sucking each other off and sodomizing one another.

 

[robertreams]

Personally, I think Jesus was a dyed-in-the-wool free love advocate. Based on both the books that were included in the Bible and the books that weren't, he swung both ways. Good for him.

If handled the right way, a completely bi-sexual retreat (girl/boy, girl/girl, boy/boy) could be plausibly explained as a true interpretation of what Jesus originally intended . . . because he sure as hell (pardon the term) didn't intend an oppressive regime such as what the various Christian religions turned into.

Thank you. Finally someone is getting the idea.

 

[ShelbyBubbles]

Thank you. Finally someone is getting the idea.

So....you're not actually looking for ideas then. Right? You're just looking to see how many people have the SAME ideas that are dancing around in your head?

 

[robertreams]

I don't know. Why does it have to be Christians? Why not some other religion?

Well, if I had been raised a Shinto and studied in a Shinto temple to become a Shinto priest, (whatever that is) perhaps I would have suggested Shintoism, but I know about Christianity and Catholicism and their views on sex, so I chose them, duh.

 

[robertreams]

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Quote--So....you're not actually looking for ideas then. Right? You're just looking to see how many people have the SAME ideas that are dancing around in your head?

No, I am,as I said, looking for ideas ABOUT my idea. But within the parameters of my story idea. Corrupted sinners corrupting youngsters would not be a new idea, but an old one. I am looking for input about MY idea, i.e. sex with divine permission/blessing('actual') not a pretense to rape someone, but pure beautiful blessed sex. It is after all, MY idea, why can't it be?

If I ask you about your opinion of my blue car, and you tell me my bus should be green, I don't think we are talking about the same thing.

 

[robertreams]

Yes, of course that would be it for some or most of the males, a good example of a really great sex orgasm, one that makes one see god!

 

[robertreams]

Personally, I think Jesus was a dyed-in-the-wool free love advocate. Based on both the books that were included in the Bible and the books that weren't, he swung both ways. Good for him.

If handled the right way, a completely bi-sexual retreat (girl/boy, girl/girl, boy/boy) could be plausibly explained as a true interpretation of what Jesus originally intended . . . because he sure as hell (pardon the term) didn't intend an oppressive regime such as what the various Christian religions turned into.

Here, here. That's the idea, I like it. I probably would get oned all over though. (scratching my head), What category do you suppose it would fit in?