I need someone to boost my courage.

Fly_On_Wall

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Okay I want to call to doctore and see about getting my surgery.

now I 'want' to do this but I know if i'm not forced to i'll keep putting it off and it will pass.
Now I know i'm not going to be able to get ahold of the offict till 1-2 in the afternoon so i've got about 2 hours before I can call.

I"ve tryed calling before and all I do is stand there with the phone in my hand and stare at the buttons.... then if I get the guts to push I few I hope to god noone answers.

How do you force yourself to do somthing your torn between wanteing and not wanting to do......

I need someone to give me that final push. So help please.
 
Fly, honey, I'm the exact same way! But yknow, if you don't do it, who's going to?

Should I get out my whip? I can hit a fly on the wall with my whip. Ahem.

Get to it.

:D
girl
 
Honey you can do it.. I put off ringing a doctor a few years ago about some thing. Once the ball got rolling I DID feel so much better and the light at the end of the tunnel was not just another train.... YOU CAN DO IT:D
 
Do you have unresolved fear about it? I would, because going under the knife is scary business to me, even though it is realitivly safe. Scuse me, but I am just paranoid, and am not trying to enhance your fear, if you have any.


Do you just not feel like it? I don't know the details of what you need done, but if it is a matter of getting your life together then that should be enough to motivate you, if you have some goal that you want to meet, but can't because of your affliction.

I say, if you can't make yourself do it, because you think about it too much, then don't think..... just do.

Good luck with your decision. I really like you FotW, so I hope you do what is best for you.
 
Fly, the alternative to NOT calling, is having this lil wolf come up there, and give you some "personal" Physical Therapy. :p
 
I was supose to make this call in late september....

yah Starfish I think your right it's just fear of it. the chances that this surgery will help is only 45% and I don't like those odds.

and without it I can't run, I can't walk half the time (falling on your ass for no reason isn't fun), so it's actualy holding me back from getting out there and getting a job. among othre things.

My parents and others keep bugging me to do it but not one of them will make me.

This sounds so rediculous but I"m just too scared to go though with it.
 
Here'z a couple of Dollars...

Can you pick me up a couple of potatoes on the way?:cool:
 
Fly, you have to think a BIT more positively buddy. there's ALWAYS a 50% chance, no matter what the doc's tell you. It either will or won't help you, no other way to say it. If you want advice on whether you are making the right choice to have it done, then really only you can make that final decision, no matter how much we say to you.

Will it make you more productive if you DO have the surgery, and it goes well?

Will it make you depressed, or more depressed if you DO NOT have the surgery, or have it and it goes bad?

YOU have to live with the consequences of the surgery, whether you have it or not. NOT us. We are simply here to help you get through, whichever you choose.

LO
 
Fly, just so you know, if you have this surgery I'll scrape enough change out of my couch (and several others ;)) to get my bus over there to be with you for it.
 
lobito i don't have the 50/50 chance like it sounds.

they actualy don't know what's wrong with my knee so since it's knee surgery... there is a 50% chance they can make it worse by cutting into it. if they don't damage anything then there is a 10% chance that nothing will happen 90% chance they will find out what is wrong with it and fix it, but the doctor said to me that is 'if' they don't do any damage so my actualy chances are

50% I get worse
45% I get better
5% Nothing happens and I wasted the day in surgery and am back in physio again for no reason.

Thanks Celia, that's a bit of a push in the right directions. (I at least found the number to his office. Now lets' just see if I can do it)
 
Gimme the damn number and I'll call for you!

And gawd help them if they put me on hold. "What do you mean hold? I'm callling from Germany for petes' sake!" ;)
 
it is like with a pregnancy test.... on the one hand you dont want to take it because you are afraid of the outcome, on the other hand you know you have to do it anyway... . Surgery certainly sucks, but you never know, the nurses might be dishy :D :D :D
 
Well i've actualy been able to call
been calling for over an hour now... body is shakeing like hell though.

keep getting a machine saying noone is available call back. and when I do finaly get the proper doctor another machine from his secritary saying she's eather away ro busy with someone (bitch)

all this trouble and all i'm calling for is to see if my file still has an open booking date. if it does I have to call another office to book a date, if it dosn't Ihave to call my family doctor to make an apointment with the specilast (EVEN THOUGH HE IS THE ONE I'M CALLING IN THE FIRST PLACE)

*insane laugh* oh god, finaly get my curage, well enough to call, and it only aided in me loosing my mind.
 
I'm a verteran of 2 knee surgeries

So I might be able to bring you a bit of insight. The second surgery was to replace a torn Anterior Cruciate Ligament. I lived with the pain of it going out of place a couple of times a week, not being able to run, walking was no picnic, etc. for over a year. They were able to diagnose it by bending the knee in such a way that it "rotated out of joint," causing excruciating pain. It was all I could to to keep from punching the doctor in the head.....

Both surgeries were done by sports medicine specialists in the field of orthopedic surgery. Both surgeries were done using an arthroscope, which is a device that inserts fiber optic cameras into three very, very small incisions (about a quarter inch each) around the kneecap. The torn ACL was done with these three small incisions, and two inch-long incisions to thread the new ligament (actually a donor achilles tendon as a replacement). It seems to me that if this is an exploratory surgery, it could be done on an outpatient basis (as my first surgery for torn cartilage was), with minimal cutting. If this is not what your surgeon is proposing, I would get a second opinion.

Hope this helps..... Feel free to PM if you have any questions.

Nigel
 
Fly_On_Wall said:


50% I get worse
45% I get better
5% Nothing happens and I wasted the day in surgery and am back in physio again for no reason.


OK, those are the odds if you have the surgery. What are the odds if you don't have the surgery?
 
i have had 4 surgeries in my life so far - i can't say i enjoy them (who does, really?) but all of them made me feel better, and this is being said by a person who is allergic to any kind of pain :D
 
I had the same surgery on my knee as Nigel (orthoscopic) by the University of Washington's football team Dr. over 15 years ago.
( He had a private practice as well). It was so worth going through. I could not believe how soon I recovered as well. Before hand, my knee was constantly giving out on me and after, it was like a miracle. I did follow his instructions and took up walking to build up the muscles around that knee and was able to dance and walk up and down stairs with no problem for the first time in years.........the knee is fine to this day.............I say go for it!
 
I managed to ruin my knee playing badminton a couple of years ago... I had keyhole surgery and it is 95% back to normal. However, I'm more careful now regarding which sport I do - I switched to icehockey now *gggggggg*
 
So?

By now we should have heard something. Did you get through?

Better to take a chance on fixing it now, than having it replaced sometime in the future, if you don't.

As bad a hip replacement surgery was, I hear knee replacement is a hell of a lot worse.

I hope you got through and scheduled it.
 
my uncle managed to fall up (!!) the stairs and SO totally break his kneecap... there wasnt actually any bone left, just crumbles and that so badly that the paramedics asked him if he was born without a kneecap (apparently there are people who are). he got a completely new kneejoint (lovely polished titanium) and is now taking stairs very seriously.
apart from the first two weeks directly afterwards the surgery he said that it was a piece of cake... compared to the kidney stones he had to wee out :D :D
 
thanks everyone for the boost.

I called all day and they are no longer answereing their phones they go off duty after 4. so I have to wait till tomarrow.

and I know what the surgery will be like my brother went through the same thing to get a bullet removed from under his kneecap.

but with me they said they don't know what the hell they are looking for.

i've gotten a few pm's so I might as well just explain what's wrong with my knee.

Last year I got hit by a truck while I was crossing the street with my bike. my knee got smashed between the bike and truck and the tibia broke, but wasn't a regular break. on the end of the bone is a ball that fits under the knee cap, that ball fell off. it's the worse knee brake you can get. but somehow it remained in place caue my leg sweled so they didn't need to put it back together, doctor said that was a bad thing. It would have been better if they had to reconstruct the knee cause then they can be sure it's all going in the right spot and will hold

Because it was just a break that dosn't explain the sudden shots of pain I get or why my knee locks or gives out (week stomachs don't read this part) or why my knee will bend backwards or unlock and bend sideways.

Cartalage damage would explain the giveing out and locking and cracking.
torn tendens would explain the muscle pains and the odd bending.
but noone knows how the hell it can bend backwards when my knee cap is still there.

so they want to do an ortroscopic exploation to see what the hell is wrong. but arn't really sure what they are looking for so may damage something they don't realise is there.

thanks for the little pushes though everyone..... going to call again tomarrow and hopefully someone will answer.
 
Well, if you lose your nerve, come back...

I have one or two little ideas that might keep you motivated!


If you don't lose your nerve, come back....

keep us posted!


*muah*
 
Fly-

If they are scoping, please let me assure you that it's not a horribly invasive procedure. When they removed my torn cartilage (by scope) I was off all support (crutches and cane) within a week and a half and performing in a play. It made rehearsals a bit of a bitch, but all went smoothly and relatively painlessly.....

Nigel
 
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