I Like Jimmy Carter...

[p_p_man]

From Today's London Times:

"JIMMY CARTER cast doubt yesterday on the Bush Administration’s recent charge that the Castro Government was conducting secret germ warfare research, after visiting Cuba’s top biotechnology laboratory.
After a question-and- answer session with scientists at the Centre for Genetic Engineering and Biotechnology, Mr Carter hinted at a political motive when he noted that the allegation was made “maybe not coincidentally” in the run-up to his trip, the first by a former US President since the 1959 revolution.

The former President turned peacemaker told the centre’s staff that he had received intelligence briefings before starting his five-day trip. “I asked them specifically on more than one occasion: ‘Is there any information that Cuba has been involved in sharing information with any country that could be used for terrorist purposes?’ ” he said. “The answer from our experts on terrorism was: ‘No.’ ”

That's the way Jim lad ask, ask and ask again. Never give up on asking questions and don't accept the answers you receive until you're completely satisfied.

That's my boy!

 

[Shaq]

He had an address I slept through apparently...I like Jimmy Carter and Bill Clinton....they are cool...

 

[juicygirl]

Jimmy is a righteous man and maybe Bill will turn into one.

 

[MissTaken]

Jimmy is a righteous man and maybe Bill will turn into one.

Huh?

 

[riff]

Jimmy is the kind of leader America needs. A statesman, not a politician.

He has done so many good things since leaving office. I think he has a guilt complex and is trying to make up for giving the world Ronald Reagan.

 

[juicygirl]

You know Carter sues for peace monitors elections builds houses for people who don't have them. Stuff like that. Clinton works on the aids crisis. They do stuff that helps people hence righteous. Bill just has to get there. Born under that dark administration Carter certainly has a lot to answer for. Since republicans run up debt and democrats bring it down why do people think the reps are good with money?

 

[miles]

Carter has to be considerd the worst president since WW2, and one of the few who managed to demoralize a whole nation with with his poor leadership. The ultimate Casper Milquetoast. By comparison he makes Dubya look dynamic.

Born under that dark administration Carter certainly has a lot to answer for. Since republicans run up debt and democrats bring it down why do people think the reps are good with money?

Say what?

 

[SINthysist]

Here's more on Mr. Carter's track record...

http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2002/5/12/164726.shtml

 

[riff]

Here come the HATEMONGERS

LOL

 

[SINthysist]

Someone needs to take over when the revisionists and apologists are done with thier glowing endorsements of a man who, like p_p_man, thinks mass murderers of thier own peoples are worthy of becoming recognized, legitimized world leaders.

How much Big Tobacco money has Carter been given over the years? Let's ask the same hard questions we ask of the current administration...

 

[Ishmael]

You know Carter sues for peace monitors elections builds houses for people who don't have them. Stuff like that. Clinton works on the aids crisis. They do stuff that helps people hence righteous. Bill just has to get there. Born under that dark administration Carter certainly has a lot to answer for. Since republicans run up debt and democrats bring it down why do people think the reps are good with money?

First of all, Republicans run up the debt by cutting taxes while the Democrats refuse to cut spending. The Democrats reduce the debt by picking my pocket (raising taxes to ridiculous heights).

Jimmy Carter is a genuine man. Honest and forthright. He was a credit to the office from the standpoint of personal ethics. But he was a less than effective president. The Camp David Accords was his shining moment. The economy under his watch was a disaster, as was most of the rest of his foriegn policy. He over saw the creation of the Dept. of Energy and the Dept. of Education. The first brought us security debacles and an overly expensive bureaucracy, while the second brought us ineffective schools and an overly expensive bureaucracy. We saw interest rates fluctuate from 10% to 20% in a mere two month period and this occured repeatedly. Beleive it or not, I did vote for the man in '76. By '80 I'd had enough, so had the rest of the nation.

Bill Clinton is a chameleon. Always has been, always will be. Not a thing he does is out of genuine concern, it's all for show. He was like that when he was 14 years of age and nothing he's done since then has led me to believe that he's changed at all. (And yes, I did meet Billy boy when he was 14. I ran into him again when he was 18 years of age and working for the election of Justice Jim Johnson in his gubernatorial run against Winthrop Rockefeller in Arkansas in '67.)

Ishmael

 

[SINthysist]

Juicy...

Because the Dems don't need to spend any money on defence.

They believe talks will cure the evils of the world, and talk is cheap!

 

[miles]

Re: Here come the HATEMONGERS

LOL

Carter is a hatemonger? WTF?

 

[WriterDom]

Wonder why it is that most of the people who praise Carter were born in the 80s or late 70s?

Except for PP and REDWAVE who love the guy. I think that says it all.

 

[p_p_man]

I agree he wasn't a President who could be considered...

a mover and a shaker but released from the restrictions of office he has taken the opportunity to carry out work he looks as if he was born to.

But what I like about him is what I said in my post.

He asks questions.

And he's not coy about making public the replies he receives.

Go Jimmy Go...

If it's any consolation I too don't believe that rubbish Bush's mob was putting out about Castro.

Mind you I don't believe what they say about most things anyway.

ppman

 

[bluntforcemama]

Everybody likes Jimmy. It's that southern smile.

 

[p_p_man]

Everybody likes Jimmy. It's that southern smile.

You mean that smiling assassin stuff?

Was it Pretzels or Peanuts....

We shall never know.

 

[Marxist]

Peepers is correct. Jimmy is guile-free and very much what the Western world needs in a statesman.

 

[Purple Haze]

Jimmy Carter is still blamed for the bad economy he inherited from the Nixon administration, check your numbers, boys. I can still remember Tricky Dick calling for an all out "price freeze" to curb the runaway inflation he would leave behind when he left office in disgrace. Anybody remember the "energy crisis" we had during the same administration? Anybody remember how all the oil reserves were dried up? The long lines at the pump were going on long before Carter took office, but he's the one the boneheads like to blame for it. Carter wasn't a great president, but he is a great man that was elected to fix the fucked up mess that Nixon and Ford left behind, not a good time to be the President.

If he'd been re-elected, his plan to eliminate our dependence on foriegn oil may have been seen through (gee, what a fucked up idea, huh guys?).

Go ahead and blame Carter for the economy, the high gas prices and the turmoil in the Middle East. It just means you don't know what the fuck you're talking about.

 

[mac_crazy]

You said it, Haze, God forbid we rid ourselves of our smack-like addiction to Middle Eastern oil...

 

[miles]

Carter's answer to our energy problems was to create the Dept. of Energy. The old Liberal mantra of solving problems by creating more government. I haven't seen anyone here blame him for the gas lines....who are you talking to? There's no doubt the economy was already in recession, but all he did was fuel the fire. He was a weak, ineffective president with no leadership skills.

He was the price we paid for Watergate.

 

[JazzManJim]

First of all, Republicans run up the debt by cutting taxes while the Democrats refuse to cut spending. The Democrats reduce the debt by picking my pocket (raising taxes to ridiculous heights).

Just as an educational note, our national debt is incurred by spending too much, not by cutting taxes. There is empirical evidence from the 1980 and the 1960s that cutting taxes increases the amount of money going into the Federal Treasury. Unfortunately, every time in the past that Federal Revenues have increased, so has Federal spending, more than the increase in the beginning - all across the board. Those who seriously say that cutting taxes drives up the debt are either badly misinformed or outright lying.

For example, in the stretch from 1982 to 1990, under the Reagan tax cut, revenues to the Federal Treasury doubled. The total budget expenditures tripled. That excess spending is what caused the debt.

Second, I have far more regard for Carter now than I did when he was President. He was, in every regard, a horrible President who showed only slightly more leadership than a soda cracker and managed to completely give away the Panama Canal, which may go down as the stupidest land deal since the Russians sold us Alaska for a 12-packof Schlitz. Since he was drubbed in the 1980 election, he's made a conscious effort to learn how to be a statesman. He's managed to do that quite well. My only quibble with him is that he has yet to drop his apparent love for sucking up to small third-world countries as if they play the same role as larger developed nations in the world political scheme.

 

[miles]

Just as an educational note, our national debt is incurred by spending too much, not by cutting taxes. There is empirical evidence from the 1980 and the 1960s that cutting taxes increases the amount of money going into the Federal Treasury. Unfortunately, every time in the past that Federal Revenues have increased, so has Federal spending, more than the increase in the beginning - all across the board. Those who seriously say that cutting taxes drives up the debt are either badly misinformed or outright lying.

For example, in the stretch from 1982 to 1990, under the Reagan tax cut, revenues to the Federal Treasury doubled. The total budget expenditures tripled. That excess spending is what caused the debt.

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Here's your flame suit Jim. They don't cotton to hard facts like that in these here parts. Rhetoric is much more fun, and it sounds so damn good. How dare you discredit the tax the rich scheme?

 

[JazzManJim]

[BHere's your flame suit Jim. They don't cotton to hard facts like that in these here parts. Rhetoric is much more fun, and it sounds so damn good. How dare you discredit the tax the rich scheme? [/B]

Nah, I don't expect flames. It was a comment on something Ishmael said and he's pretty solid about stuff like that. It was likely a slip on his behalf.

Besides, I should discredit the "tax the rich" scheme! I am one!

No wait...no I'm not. Dammit.

 

[Purple Haze]

For example, in the stretch from 1982 to 1990, under the Reagan tax cut, revenues to the Federal Treasury doubled. The total budget expenditures tripled. That excess spending is what caused the debt.

Are you talking about the five trillion dollar war chest, or are you referring to all the social programs for the poor that were wiped out in no time? What caused the debt? It couldn't have been a bloated education budget. It couldn't have been AIDS research. Hmmm.... I wonder what we spent the money on?