i know this one is GONNA hurt ............

[h_i_s]

i JUST know it's GONNA hurt ............

my Master just told me a lil' while ago that He's decided i'll be getting my belly button pierced .. soon. i've had my nose pierced, and it hurt like a bitch. Getting His ownership tattoo on the nape of my neck actually hurt less than the piercing, but it was painfull just the same.

i know that the amount of pain felt for any procedure varies from one person to another. i also know that some areas of the body are more prone and/or receptive to higher amounts of pain for tattoos and piercings.

i'm wondering what the pain of a navel piercing may be in comparison to a nose piercing for any who have had both done. i'm also wondering what differences others expereinced between the two regarding healing & how sensitive the area may have been after piercing, as well as wishing to know approximately how long the healing actually took.

 

[Ophelia_221]

Well, when you really think of all the belly button piercings out there....it can't be too bad. Just think of that.
I've done many of them. Just keep in mind that although it may be popular, it is one of the most easily infected piercings. That area collects so much...stuff..for lack of a better term. So use ear care solution (your piercer should have some, if not go to a Claires or a Wal Mart that does in - store ear piercing and get yourself some) to clean it with warm water and cotton swabs a couple times a day. Use Dial soap in a hand pump in the morning. It may be easier to clean in the shower once ot starts to develop crusties. The warm water will make turning the jewlery much easier.

 

[Killishandra]

I have never had a tattoo or piercing (not even ears) in my life, so I can contribute absolutely nothing to the topic of this thread.

But sinn, I have to tell you that your new avatar is so intensely erotic that I spare a few moments to stare at it each time I see it.

Gorgeous woman... evocative photography...

 

[sphynx's dragon]

Whilst I only have the top of my ear pierced, I will pass mention of this thread over to my Lady who may be able to help with some comparisons!

 

[BlueSugar]

while I haven't had my nose pierced, I have had my nipple pierced, my ears pierced and my bellybutton.

other then keeping up the cleaning with it - the belly button piercing barely pinched. When the needle goes through at the end (not the initial first prick- but when it pushes through the other end) you'll feel that more then the initial start of the piercing.
Piercers are sneaky, and it'll be over before you think it hurt.

just keep up on the aftercare.
I used a cream for minor scrapes and it healed up perfectly w/o infection completly (inside and out) in a little more then 2 months. I would put a little on after soap/water... and then thread the hoop all the way around so the inside had a little bit of the cream on it.
Many will say thats how dust and things can get inside, and infect it... but I never had a problem, and neither did any of my friends who did the same thing.

 

[cinnamonstick]

Nose piercing was much more painful that the belly button, which just hurt alittle. When I got my tattoo I didn't think it hurt at all.

 

[ammre]

navels are pickey things. they are actually the hardest to heal of the common piercings. they are in an area that can reject easially. Take very good care of it and dont' put any stress on it.
clean it with seasalts and warm water, don't use triple antibiotic ointment or any special solutions. The ointment says directly on the back "not for puncture wounds". Ointment will keep the piercing from breathing which is necissary for it to heal. crusties are natural and fine. The sea salts are a natural way to cleanse it, they will break up the gunk and help heal it. (i forget the small mix version btu you can get non-iodized sea salts at a health food store, mix 2 tablespoons with a gallon of water, distilled water is better but normal water is fine) and If you want to use a soap use satin or provon. antibacterial things liek dial will kill the good healing bacteria as well and can be too harsh. Alchol is a big no no, also too harsh.
Navels will take up to 6 months to heal properly. Heal it with a curved barbell. A hoop will move too much, snag too much, and cause too much pressure during healing. No gague above a 14g. 14g is actually pretty weak for a navel as well but it's the popular gague, if you can get it at a 12g that would be ideal. (the thinner the gague the more chance it has of rejecting. it works sort of like a cheese cutter, the thin wire slowly slicing through, the thinner gagues will push through your skin much easier.)

 

[tealsphynx]

My piercing hardly hurt that I can remember, though my body stared to regect the jewelry..I fought it and even after removing it fo 4 mo (due to expanding baby belly) I still have it. I'd compare it with th repirced hole in my ears, they went through scar tissue which bit a little more. Though it didn't hurt nearly as bad as the repiercing of my eyebrow which is why I'm scared to redo it now that it's closed.

 

[graceanne]

I kinda have a question about belly button peircings. It's just hypothetical, since I would never peirce my belly button - Im too fat.

But, lets say that I got really skinny, and all my stretch marks went poof! When I had D I had a umbilical hernia repaird. Is it possible for someone who's had an umbilical hernia repair to get their belly button peirced?

 

[BlueSugar]

Heal it with a curved barbell. A hoop will move too much, snag too much, and cause too much pressure during healing.

i'm not a piercer. and i've only had one navel piercing myself.
but having many of my friends get one, and listening to many many stories good or bad about the piercing ... I've heard it is harder to keep clean with a ring.

Maybe its what they tell younger clients (i had mine done when i was 16, many years have passed since then)

... but IMO it doesn't get clean enough with a barbell because you can't thread the piercing around and get it clean enough... it just sits in the body for the most part.


...it comes down to preference and dedication, I will give that though. Piercers and Piercerees have said MANY different things over the years in threads and in person to me about many different piercings.

 

[canadiancutie]

i JUST know it's GONNA hurt ............

my Master just told me a lil' while ago that He's decided i'll be getting my belly button pierced .. soon. i've had my nose pierced, and it hurt like a bitch. Getting His ownership tattoo on the nape of my neck actually hurt less than the piercing, but it was painfull just the same.

i know that the amount of pain felt for any procedure varies from one person to another. i also know that some areas of the body are more prone and/or receptive to higher amounts of pain for tattoos and piercings.

i'm wondering what the pain of a navel piercing may be in comparison to a nose piercing for any who have had both done. i'm also wondering what differences others expereinced between the two regarding healing & how sensitive the area may have been after piercing, as well as wishing to know approximately how long the healing actually took.

I pierce, and I've never had anyone who's naval I've peirced rate it higher than a 4 on the pain scale, and for some people it was their first piercing. I have both sides of my nose, and I used to have my naval 3 times, and trust me, naval hurts a LOT less. EDIT- but it does heal slower. just dont go swimming for at least a month, it might be sensitive for a few days, but then it should be fine. the healing time can take anywhere from one month to 6 depending on how healthy you are

 

[SweetDommes]

I would suggest using tea tree oil or tea tree oil soap over the peircing cleanser that claire's has. I got the nastiest infection you can imagine in my cartilage peircing while using that stuff (totally as directed too ... it wasn't improper usage) and when I started using tea tree oil soap (tea tree oil has natural antibiotic properties, for those who are wondering) it cleared up right away. I had to take it out eventually for other reasons, but the infection did finally clear up after many trials of cleansers.

 

[canadiancutie]

use bactine. always use bactine. if for some reason you can't use bactine, use salt water. some piercers tell you to use witchhazel, which does work, but you have to be careful because it makes the area red, so a lot of people mistake it for being infected and take out the piercing. using ear piercing cleaning solution is silly.

 

[ammre]

use bactine. always use bactine. if for some reason you can't use bactine, use salt water. some piercers tell you to use witchhazel, which does work, but you have to be careful because it makes the area red, so a lot of people mistake it for being infected and take out the piercing. using ear piercing cleaning solution is silly.

Bactine i've also heard is too harsh for a piercing, you were on the money with the sea salts and water.

If the piercing is infected, do not take it out. That traps the infection inside the fistula (the healed skin around the jewelry). The hole the jewelry keeps open acts as dranage for the infection. Seek medical attention but don't take it out.

BlueSugar: As you mentioned in your first post you were instructed not to move it around when healing it, yet you were healthy enough you could do it, that it didn't irritate your body and you healed fine. Not everyone has the same luck and health to heal theirs. they suggest for you to not move it around becasue that causes irritation within the healing tissue. the movement can cause microtears making the healing time longer, the scar tissue more prominent (if you keloid or if you take it out someday), and a greater chance of infection.

i feel kinda like an ass acting like i know it all, but it's what i know. Body Modification is a HUGE part of my life. 10 piercings, a large scarification peice, 6 tattoos, 3 suspensions and a split tongue. I've studied after care, i've got many friend piercers who constantly debate about aftercare and those were some of the best methods to healing yourself. 2 sea salt soaks a day with warm water of about 5 to 15 minuts, has been found to be the best mothod. Also, sea salts are nature's best healent. My father had the inability to heal his legs due to a weak heart. He had open sores. Even the doctor taking care of him had us do sea salt soaks and gause to clean him daily.

 

[BlueSugar]

Bactine i've also heard is too harsh for a piercing, you were on the money with the sea salts and water.

i feel kinda like an ass acting like i know it all, but it's what i know. Body Modification is a HUGE part of my life. 10 piercings, a large scarification peice, 6 tattoos, 3 suspensions and a split tongue. I've studied after care, i've got many friend piercers who constantly debate about aftercare and those were some of the best methods to healing yourself. 2 sea salt soaks a day with warm water of about 5 to 15 minuts, has been found to be the best mothod. Also, sea salts are nature's best healent. My father had the inability to heal his legs due to a weak heart. He had open sores. Even the doctor taking care of him had us do sea salt soaks and gause to clean him daily.

I was told to use a little bactine cream. I wouldn't have believed my piercer -bc i have heard so many say otherwise- if he didn't look like a colored pincushion
It was over 6 years ago, it worked then, its worked for my newer piercings so I never had a reason to discredit him -- never to go against any of my other piercers have said. But it did work for me and everyone is different.

Sometimes I feel the salt water solution is pushed so much because it is the only thing anyone can agree on and no one could say that it doesnt help or work.

But truth is, it does work and to be a purist and not to fuss with any new mod too much it is the easiest and not so involved ... and when done right, perfect.


and the up of a ring in any piercing is for easy and thorough clean - minor irritation bc it does move around.
- a bar doesn't move nearly as much, but a little harder to clean, which causes a little irritation bc you have to move it a little differently then just threading the ring around.

preference again, some will say one - just as many will say go for the other.

 

[landcruisergal]

Didn't hurt. The infection did.Took ages to clear up, but eventually did.
1.Wash your hands, wash your hands, wash your hands.
Avoid clothing that rubs on it.

2.Avoid sweating and dirty work combined (gardening, playing with animals, over zealous spring cleaning, etc) if you can't wash and change clothes soon afterwards.

3.I would recommend a banana barbell, to avoid the twisting factor. I wear 501's a lot, and have a relatively short waist, rib - hip, so it's just an issue for me. I had a ring and changed it when it got infected on advice from another piercer.

4.Avoid swimming and spa's for about 3 months if you can.

And esp dont go swimming in waterholes with a dead cow in it.
(week old piercing, 4x4'd all day in the dust and 45 degrees with no aircon. and you couldnt see the cow from the end I jumped in ok? I think it would have got infected without the cow, but I have to blame something.)

 

[BlueSugar]

Didn't hurt. The infection did.Took ages to clear up, but eventually did.

And esp dont go swimming in waterholes with a dead cow in it.
(week old piercing, 4x4'd all day in the dust and 45 degrees with no aircon. and you couldnt see the cow from the end I jumped in ok? I think it would have got infected without the cow, but I have to blame something.)

oh gosh.. hahaha... yeah.. a dead cow could do that ... oh shit.. that so isn't funny, but I couldn't help laugh a little.
oi, I'm so sorry. haha.

 

[shaymless]

for grace

I'm not a piercer, but when we turned thirty a girlfriend of mine wanted to have her belly button pierced and the piercer wouldn't do it because of something with her umbilical - she didn't have a hernia, but he said because of the location of it, the piercing would most likely reject and to go behind it would be too dangerous. (I don't remember the exact details, we were thirty several years ago).

It could be that you wouldn't be able to have one done because of the rejection factor, but I would guess that it depended on the scar tissue and location. A good piercer would be able to tell you.

As for being "too fat" - piffle. If you want the piercing, go for it...get it done for yourself.

shay

 

[landcruisergal]

oh gosh.. hahaha... yeah.. a dead cow could do that ... oh shit.. that so isn't funny, but I couldn't help laugh a little.
oi, I'm so sorry. haha.

Could possibly say I did everything wrong, piercing wise.
And me a nurse! Shame job.
It was funny. One city girl with us screamed, and fairly flew out of the water,which had us 'bushpigs' laughing even more. It was so ironic that we travelled so far to get to the oasis, to find it unswimmable.
But the wild dingo's coming in to dine on aforementioned cow and then serenading us, (well howling) around the campfire whilst we drank good volumes of red wine was awesome.
What's a little infection if you experience that? Without the cow it would have still been nice, but it became a 'forever' memory.
Sorry for the hijack.

 

[h_i_s]

And for those who mentioned hernias, extra thanks! Although i don't know if mine will be an issue, i do have an umbilical hernia right above my naval. We'll see ..

As we plan on using the same person who pierced my nose, i'm guessing he'll recommend the same type of after care for the belly button as was used for the nose piercing. i used dial soap several times a day, followed with a generous rinse with warm water and an application of Bactine solution. Never know though, as i've heard from many that the belly button is more prone to infection ... after care may differ.

i think i'm leaning more towards a larger gage, vs a smaller. A larger gage was used for the nose, at first, and in my experience, for me, a smaller gage was not a plus during healing. i tried a smaller gage and my piercings have always had issues with closing/shrinkage. i heal well, and very quickly it seems. i'm certain i'll choose a ring w/ captive ball, and switch once it heals completely (unless the piercer offers good reason not to). i'm thinking i may prefer the ease & motion of a ring during cleaning vs. bar. The ring worked well for the nose. my nose was too tender at first when moving the ring .. the nose screw/twist was tricky, at first. i may find the same to be true of a bar.

Thank you, everyone .. for all of the replies, and good advice. It's been helpful ..... already.

 

[h_i_s]

.... But sinn, I have to tell you that your new avatar is so intensely erotic that I spare a few moments to stare at it each time I see it.

Gorgeous woman... evocative photography...

Thank you, Killi. i like your new avatar too.

 

[h_i_s]

With the thought that there are at least a few different types of belly button piercings to choose from, i visited a few body modification sites to view images.

i'm just greatful that this is just another example of something we both agree on. i saw a few images of different choices regarding placement of the naval piercings, and neither of us care for any of the others. We both agree on the captive bead type ring in silver to match my collar and other jewelry which i wear.

He chose this placement, and type of jewelry (to start with).
http://www.shearologist.com/thisone.jpg

 

[graceanne]

I'm not a piercer, but when we turned thirty a girlfriend of mine wanted to have her belly button pierced and the piercer wouldn't do it because of something with her umbilical - she didn't have a hernia, but he said because of the location of it, the piercing would most likely reject and to go behind it would be too dangerous. (I don't remember the exact details, we were thirty several years ago).

It could be that you wouldn't be able to have one done because of the rejection factor, but I would guess that it depended on the scar tissue and location. A good piercer would be able to tell you.

As for being "too fat" - piffle. If you want the piercing, go for it...get it done for yourself.

shay

LOL I love that word - piffle. My grandma says it and I laugh every time.

I absolutely refuse to walk around showing my fat tummy. And why get a peircing that no one will ever see? I mean at least with my nipples K would enjoy it. (And I get to shock the living hell out of my mom. )

 

[canadiancutie]

And for those who mentioned hernias, extra thanks! Although i don't know if mine will be an issue, i do have an umbilical hernia right above my naval. We'll see ..

As we plan on using the same person who pierced my nose, i'm guessing he'll recommend the same type of after care for the belly button as was used for the nose piercing. i used dial soap several times a day, followed with a generous rinse with warm water and an application of Bactine solution. Never know though, as i've heard from many that the belly button is more prone to infection ... after care may differ.

i think i'm leaning more towards a larger gage, vs a smaller. A larger gage was used for the nose, at first, and in my experience, for me, a smaller gage was not a plus during healing. i tried a smaller gage and my piercings have always had issues with closing/shrinkage. i heal well, and very quickly it seems. i'm certain i'll choose a ring w/ captive ball, and switch once it heals completely (unless the piercer offers good reason not to). i'm thinking i may prefer the ease & motion of a ring during cleaning vs. bar. The ring worked well for the nose. my nose was too tender at first when moving the ring .. the nose screw/twist was tricky, at first. i may find the same to be true of a bar.

Thank you, everyone .. for all of the replies, and good advice. It's been helpful ..... already.

For some reasons a lot of piercers pierce navals with 16 gauge needles...which is silly. It heals much much faster if you go with a 12 or 14. 14 is probably your best bet because it leaves a smaller scar, and most naval jewellery comes in a 16; the jump from a 14 to a 16 is a lot less than a jump from a 12 to 16, so should you decide to use 16 gauge jewellery once the piercing heals, it will fit a lot more comfortably.

 

[sincerely_helene]

I have had my navel done twice, and can honestly conclude that the actual piecing hurt far less than the healing process.

Make sure to invest in some low rise pants so that the piercing doesn't rub against the material, particulary if you have a job that requires you to bend or reach a lot.

Mine took well over a year to heal.