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Unfortunately, Bramblethorn, you just set yourself up for a profanity-laden rant that will likely accuse you of being an alt for the site owners.
 
Geeze ... this is realy weird...

Just now I was watching Channel 4 Miami (CBS) and suddenly my screen went fuzzy and then when it cleared I was confronted by WBZ Ch 4 BOSTONFICTIONWRITER and they were doing an interview of the 2012 NUDE DAY contest winners: darkboy and lovergirl (yes the convicted cheat).

And it wasn't today - it was next Sunday! Now how Science-Fictiony was that???

I think freddie :D was talking to me from heaven. Warning me (and helping me in the office betting pool).

http://ladylibertytoday.files.wordpress.com/2011/05/deadman_20100119_170009.jpg

And if true it probably explains SusieQ's mysterious votes. How fitting would it be if my old friend had figured out a way to vote from his grave? If he was able to vote "1" on all his murderesses new stories...​
 
*laugh* Just got a long, gushing, anonymous email from someone who says she started reading the stories after seeing this thread ( thinking it could have the answer to a question she had ), and that she was only pausing after finishing Forever to write me before moving on to Secret. New votes and favorites rolling in on the series.

If you're lurking, thank you. Glad you're enjoying them :D

And this should answer your editing question:

Here's the editing method for Lit.

  • Take note of the url of your story/chapter. That's the address appearing in the address bar of your browser when you view the first page of your story. You really only need the last part after the /s/ that represents your title.
  • Start a new submission.
  • Use the same title as the original ( or as much as will fit ) plus something such as *EDIT*
  • Fill in the same category, then fill description and keywords with placeholders, as they don't matter. ( Unless one of these things are what you're editing )
  • If editing the story text, paste/upload the new text in the "story text" section. You need to upload the whole story, not just the edited sections. If editing anything else, copy the "notes" section detailed below in order to fill this section.
  • In the "notes" section, say what you are editing. If story text, then put that. If title, then put the requested NEW title here. You can fill in edited descriptions/keywords/category above, but you'll still want to list any such changes here. It's a good idea to list the url that I mentioned in step 1. This is unique to every story/chapter, and can help eliminate the potential for human error. As mentioned above, if you are editing something other than the story text, copy what you put in the notes section to the "story text" as well. This is simply because there must be something in that section for you to submit.
  • Click "Review", then "Submit"

Edits are subject to the same wait time as a new story. I have seen edits go up in bulk in far less time than a story usually requires to post, though.

Edits will not appear on the public side immediately. Wait at least 24 hours after the "edited" submission vanishes from your private author list before worrying that your changes haven't been applied. Changes may not all appear at the same time, either. Page 1 may change, while page 2 will remain the same until an hour or so later. Be patient as the system catches up.

If you edit the story in this manner ( as opposed to deleting and re-submitting ) you'll retain your votes, views, comments, etc. The only thing that will be changed is what you say that you want changed. It will not appear on the New List again.

If you wish to delete a story, use much the same method, except put something such as *DELETE* in the title, and say that you want to delete the story in question in the "notes" section.

If you wish to delete all of your stories, an entire series, etc., then use the normal delete process, but explain in the "notes" section that you want to do a mass delete, and what type.

Convoluted, but it does work. It gets a little easier as you get used to it.
 
Darkniciad said:
*laugh* Just got a long, gushing, anonymous email from someone who says she started reading the stories after seeing this thread ( thinking it could have the answer to a question she had ), and that she was only pausing after finishing Forever to write me before moving on to Secret. New votes and favorites rolling in on the series.

If you're lurking, thank you. Glad you're enjoying them :D

And this should answer your editing question:

Here's the editing method for Lit.

  • Take note of the url of your story/chapter. That's the address appearing in the address bar of your browser when you view the first page of your story. You really only need the last part after the /s/ that represents your title.
  • Start a new submission.
  • Use the same title as the original ( or as much as will fit ) plus something such as *EDIT*
  • Fill in the same category, then fill description and keywords with placeholders, as they don't matter. ( Unless one of these things are what you're editing )
  • If editing the story text, paste/upload the new text in the "story text" section. You need to upload the whole story, not just the edited sections. If editing anything else, copy the "notes" section detailed below in order to fill this section.
  • In the "notes" section, say what you are editing. If story text, then put that. If title, then put the requested NEW title here. You can fill in edited descriptions/keywords/category above, but you'll still want to list any such changes here. It's a good idea to list the url that I mentioned in step 1. This is unique to every story/chapter, and can help eliminate the potential for human error. As mentioned above, if you are editing something other than the story text, copy what you put in the notes section to the "story text" as well. This is simply because there must be something in that section for you to submit.
  • Click "Review", then "Submit"

Edits are subject to the same wait time as a new story. I have seen edits go up in bulk in far less time than a story usually requires to post, though.

Edits will not appear on the public side immediately. Wait at least 24 hours after the "edited" submission vanishes from your private author list before worrying that your changes haven't been applied. Changes may not all appear at the same time, either. Page 1 may change, while page 2 will remain the same until an hour or so later. Be patient as the system catches up.

If you edit the story in this manner ( as opposed to deleting and re-submitting ) you'll retain your votes, views, comments, etc. The only thing that will be changed is what you say that you want changed. It will not appear on the New List again.

If you wish to delete a story, use much the same method, except put something such as *DELETE* in the title, and say that you want to delete the story in question in the "notes" section.

If you wish to delete all of your stories, an entire series, etc., then use the normal delete process, but explain in the "notes" section that you want to do a mass delete, and what type.

Convoluted, but it does work. It gets a little easier as you get used to it.
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So, why did you use this thread to respond to her "email"? We don't care.:rolleyes:
 
I saw something today that might go hand and hand with the OP's question.

If you look at the new story releases, there is a story dated 7/16 at the top, which is of course tomorrows date. Maybe on the authors page it is blocked out with pending, but is actually up.

Damn! I'm alting again!

How the hell do the people in the GB do this all day long?
 
Freddie doesn't want an actual answer, and never did. This was nothing more than a vehicle for the same old rant about how the website is cheating him.
 
Darkniciad said:
Freddie doesn't want an actual answer, and never did. This was nothing more than a vehicle for the same old rant about how the website is cheating him.
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Just for a minute, humor me, if you will, being that you're a numbers guy.

Do the math. We'll just take two writers on the site, you and TxRad. Count the number of blue W's that each of you have. Then, take all the contests stories from all of those theme and monthly contests. There must be thousands of stories.

Now do the math. The statistics is startling, a real eye opener, isn't it? How is it possible that two writers can win so very many contests? I don't get it. I don't understand. Can you explain?

Now tell me, unless you and Tx are the great, American writers, how can the two of you win so very many contests on Literotica? Just explain that and I'll be happy and I'll go away never to broach this subject again.

Go ahead, perhaps you can come up with a mathematical formula to convince me and all the other losing writers, writers who write their asses off, but never ever win a contest, how the two of you can win so many contests.

How is that possible? Explain that Dark. Tell everyone that these contests are fair and not fixed. I'll believe the contests here are fair and not fixed, when I win one or another writer, who participates in every contest without fail, but has never won, wins a contest.

Yet, between you and Tex, with more than 20 contest wins, places, and or shows that's such an improbably statistical number that it's impossible to compute, isn't it, Dark, that is, unless you had help.

Who's helping you and Tx win contests here, Dark. Who pulls the strings? Surely, it's not the vote of the masses declaring you and Tx as the winners. C'mon, be honest. I won't tell a soul. Go ahead and tell me the truth. Set yourself free, Dark and stop all the lying.

 
If you actually wanted to see it, people who have constantly entered win contests for the first time all the time.

I was one of them a few years ago.

The only thing you want is a jumping off point to attack the website and the people you don't like, and all the data in the world isn't going to change your mind.

As I've said over and over again, my posts and my stories are right there for anyone to view. I'm content to stand on that.

How about you?
 
Darkniciad said:
If you actually wanted to see it, people who have constantly entered win contests for the first time all the time.

I was one of them a few years ago.

The only thing you want is a jumping off point to attack the website and the people you don't like, and all the data in the world isn't going to change your mind.

As I've said over and over again, my posts and my stories are right there for anyone to view. I'm content to stand on that.

How about you?
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How about me? I've written more than 1,000 stories, many of them better than the winning contest stories, yet, I've never won a contest here, other than the Survivor contest. Go figure. What is the mathematical formula for that, huh? After writing and entering so very many stories in a contest and never winning, not even a 3rd place finish. I guess my stories suck. Yeah, that's probably it.

I guess you and the other multiple contest winners are just better writers. Absolutely, that must be it. Maybe you're just lucky. Maybe it's all just a coincidence. Maybe with that office cleaning business that you own and operate, allows you to vote for your stories hundreds of times, on the pretense of cleaning offices after hours.

What do I think of that? I don't think these writing contests are fair and I think you and your circle of little friends are Literotica plants, so that Laurel doesn't have to pay out the money. That's what I think.

Prove me wrong. I have more of a chance of proving me right, then you have of proving me wrong.

Congratulations on winning, yet, another contest.
 
In Dark's defense, he actually started a thread about how chapter stories have an unfair advantage in the monthlies.

The site chooses not to care at times what is fair.

So if that's the case why fault someone for taking what someone is willing to give?

As for the theme contests, well there's a boat load of crap that goes on there and who the hell knows who is responsible.

I will say and have said in the past, that I think the site will lean in favor of certain people.

That's human nature and based on a bunch of factors.
 
sr71plt said:
Unfortunately calling someone's bluff around here doesn't stop them from just repeating the same barf again (and again).
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I know.

I also know that he's placed in the money. He knows what the checks look like. He knows they're the real deal.

Of course, he also knew his conspiracy theory was a steaming load. It hasn't and won't stop him from continuing to put it forth, even with irrefutable evidence right in front of his face.

I called his bluff for my own satisfaction, knowing that somewhere in the back of his head he knows beyond any shadow of a doubt that he's lying through his teeth every time he types it.
 
SusanJillParker said:
How about me? I've written more than 1,000 stories, many of them better than the winning contest stories, yet, I've never won a contest here, other than the Survivor contest. Go figure. What is the mathematical formula for that, huh?
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I could give you a rough model for that, but I doubt anybody really wants to see it.

TLDR version: writing is not a lottery where your chance of success increases proportional to the tickets you buy. If your first hundred stories didn't win anything, it probably means you're not writing the sort of stuff the judges enjoy; unless your style changes or the judges' tastes change, the next nine hundred aren't likely to do better.

If you can't see why they don't rate your work as high as others', that's going to be immensely frustrating. (Assuming you're in it for the prizes, anyway; some folk like SamuelX just seem to enjoy writing, and don't particularly care how other people rate their stuff.)

But none of us are good judges of our own work. That's why, even after proofreading my stuff, I'll pass it to my beta reader for comments - almost invariably she'll pick up weaknesses that I didn't see.
 
Bramblethorn said:
I could give you a rough model for that, but I doubt anybody really wants to see it.

TLDR version: writing is not a lottery where your chance of success increases proportional to the tickets you buy. If your first hundred stories didn't win anything, it probably means you're not writing the sort of stuff the judges enjoy; unless your style changes or the judges' tastes change, the next nine hundred aren't likely to do better.

If you can't see why they don't rate your work as high as others', that's going to be immensely frustrating. (Assuming you're in it for the prizes, anyway; some folk like SamuelX just seem to enjoy writing, and don't particularly care how other people rate their stuff.)

But none of us are good judges of our own work. That's why, even after proofreading my stuff, I'll pass it to my beta reader for comments - almost invariably she'll pick up weaknesses that I didn't see.
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Rough model? Forget about me and my stories. If you're volunteering to do a "rough model", I'd like to see a rough model on how two writers, TxRad and Darkincaid can win so very many contests, when there are so very many stories competiting. The odds are astronomical of anyone accomplishing that, unless they had a lot of help from the inside.

That's the point of this thread. This thread is more about the writing contests being unfair and not about me.

 
Let's say about 100 entries average per contest, even though that's probably high.

Even in a completely random draw, that's a 1 in 100 chance.

Feel free to explain how that's an astronomical hurdle to surmount, Freddie. It's always somewhat sadly amusing to watch you blow smoke and throw flack to explain your outrageous claims.
 
SusanJillParker said:
Rough model? Forget about me and my stories. If you're volunteering to do a "rough model", I'd like to see a rough model on how two writers, TxRad and Darkincaid can win so very many contests, when there are so very many stories competiting. The odds are astronomical of anyone accomplishing that, unless they had a lot of help from the inside.
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By request:

For writer i, let x(i) represent the average quality of their work (as perceived by judges). For simplicity, we'll assume that all writers have the same normally-distributed variability from their average quality, with standard deviation d. Let n(i) = number of stories submitted by writer i for a given contest, and let N = total number of stories submitted by all authors.

To keep things simple, let's assume there's only one prize available in that contest, and that all stories submitted are eligible. If judges are honest, then the best story will win. Let P(i) denote the probability that writer i will win.

Now, if x(i) = x(j) for all {i,j} then P(i)=n(i)/N. If N is large compared to n(i), then P(i) will be small.

But if x(i) > x(j) for all j not equal to i, then P(i) > n(i)/N, and P(i) can be large even if n(i)<<N.

Translated into English:

"Yes, if all writers are equally good, it would be unusual for a couple of writers to win lots of prizes. But if somebody's good at writing the sort of stuff the judges like, they will often have the best story even with lots of competition."

Maybe they're just good at writing the sort of stuff the judges like? I haven't read their work, but it seems like the most obvious explanation.
 
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