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[sweetnpetite]

PITTSBURGH - Vice President Dick Cheney (news - web sites)'s remark that "the wrong choice" by voters could result in another terrorist attack was "a sleazy and despicable effort to blackmail voters with fear," Al Gore (news - web sites) said Thursday.


The former vice president criticized the Bush-Cheney administration — which he repeatedly called the Bush-Halliburton administration — for their "failed record" on the economy, health care and the war in Iraq (news - web sites) during a speech before about 200 supporters at the headquarters of the United Steelworkers of America.


"The claim by Bush and Cheney that the American people must give them four more years in office or else be 'hit hard' by another terrorist attack is a sleazy and despicable effort to blackmail voters with fear," Gore said.


"They are going back to the ugliest page in the Republican playbook: fear," he said. "They're not even really trying to convince you to vote for George Bush (news - web sites). Their only hope, they've decided, is to try and make you too afraid to vote for John Kerry (news - web sites). It's the lowest sort of politics imaginable. It is not worthy of a presidential candidate."


Cheney told supporters in Des Moines, Iowa, on Tuesday that, if Kerry were elected, the United States risked falling back into a "pre-9/11 mind-set" that terrorist attacks are criminal acts that require a reactive approach.


"It's absolutely essential that eight weeks from today, on Nov. 2, we make the right choice, because if we make the wrong choice then the danger is that we'll get hit again and we'll be hit in a way that will be devastating from the standpoint of the United States," Cheney said.


Gore joined other Democrats, including Kerry and running mate John Edwards (news - web sites), in condemning Cheney's statement. President Bush (news - web sites) declined to discuss the issue with reporters on Wednesday. White House spokesman Scott McClellan said Cheney was talking about differences in how Bush and Kerry would approach the war on terror.




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I think this is low and sleezy.

 

[Quiet_Cool]

It's an election...

 

[Virtual_Burlesque]

... I think this is low and sleezy.

That is no insult, the Bush Administration actively aspires to be “low and sleazy.”

For example: read up on the Starve the Beast Economic Theory.

starve the beast v. To cut taxes with the intent of using the reduced revenue as an excuse to drastically reduce the size and number of services offered by a government.

For details of how the Starve The Beast theory works check out The Word Spy.

 

[Joe Wordsworth]

I don't know that they aspire to be low and sleazy, per se. I think it more likely that they aspire to be successful. But, admittedly, I'm with Clinton on the subject of the Bush administration and the Republican party--"They're not evil or anything, they want to do what's best for America... we just have a different vew of what that is".

 

[Virtual_Burlesque]

Anybody who finds the American budget’s disappearing surplus "incredibly positive news" because that means he can cut back welfare and pull the teeth of the enforcement of environmental protection regulations, in my book, is low and sleazy.

 

[Joe Wordsworth]

Originally posted by Virtual_Burlesque
in my book,

Oooooo.k.

 

[poohlive]

You can call it low and sleazy if you want. I think, moreso, it's just a tactic. How do you get what you want? Well, you go through several tactics to do it.
Right now, Kerry's Tactic is that he's not Bush. Well, republicans can see that as low and sleazy, considering that on 80 percent of the issues Kerry and Bush are almost identical. He's banking on those who hate Bush, using fear to say, "if you vote for Bush, he will eventually blow up the world."
(which may or may not be true, but if we're saying that using fear to get votes is low and sleazy, you can't count this one out either)

Bush's tactic is he needs to stay in office and keep doing what he's doing in order to get rid of all the terrorists. Yes, that can be considered low and sleazy, but then it's a tactic.

And there are two kinds of tactics, positive ones, and negative ones. Positive tactics would be; vote for me and I'll lower taxes, give more money to education, roads, better security, blah blah blah. You know, the shit politicians have always thrown down our throats.

A negative tactic would be fear, hatred, bigotry. Mudslinging, 35 year old stories about who may or may not have committed war crimes in Vietnam. (or, for the other side... who wasn't in Vietnam at all).

I mean, you can't really look at one side, point and say "hey, they're not playing fair!!!" No one has played fair since FDR, and in some cases even before. I'm not saying Cheney is off the hook, but that doesn't mean Kerry or his team is some saint either. They both want to win, and at this point, with numbers nearly tied, and only a few weeks away, it's just going to get uglier and uglier.

Welcome to America.
Land of the Free.

 

[sweetnpetite]

It's an election...

Well you got a point there.

But I think it reaches a whole *new low.

 

[sweetnpetite]

Anybody who finds the American budget’s disappearing surplus "incredibly positive news" because that means he can cut back welfare and pull the teeth of the enforcement of environmental protection regulations, in my book, is low and sleazy.

 

[sweetnpetite]

I don't know that they aspire to be low and sleazy, per se. I think it more likely that they aspire to be successful. But, admittedly, I'm with Clinton on the subject of the Bush administration and the Republican party--"They're not evil or anything, they want to do what's best for America... we just have a different vew of what that is".

That was mighty noble of him.

Especially considering what they say about him.


Regardless, that's a pretty freakin good quote- I like it Joe.

 

[Joe Wordsworth]

Originally posted by sweetnpetite
That was mighty noble of him.

Especially considering what they say about him.


Regardless, that's a pretty freakin good quote- I like it Joe.

For better or worse, its something I live by. Very few people, I think, are just genuinely "evil" and "out to ruin the world" or stuff like that. I believe that they are most likely doing what they think is right--like an overbearing mother might by restraining and reprimanding and shielding a child... even if I disagree with them.

I would vote Clinton for a third, if I could.

 

[Virtual_Burlesque]

... Very few people, I think, are just genuinely "evil" and "out to ruin the world" ...

Did I use the word evil?

I don’t think so.

I said “low and sleazy”

That doesn’t require any actual evilness.

Just someone who lacks the finer aspirations or employs laudable tactics.

Neither am I implying that Bush isn’t an Evil Emperor — or at least the tool of evil operators. I’m just not saying so.

 

[Joe Wordsworth]

Originally posted by Virtual_Burlesque
Did I use the word evil?

No, neither do I recall ever saying you did.