I can't sleep because I have a job interview and I am nervous.
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Ooh! Boredom's my specialty!
Wanna talk about the history of jazz? Just lie there and listen to me opine about it until you're asleep. It won't take long.
Wanna talk about the history of jazz? Just lie there and listen to me opine about it until you're asleep. It won't take long.
wildtiger60
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good luck
hope it goes well for you.
hope it goes well for you.
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Starfish said:Whine.
I need to sleep. Can someone bore me to sleep please?
Good luck.....
Be thankful you got an interview.....I've been looking for work for a month.
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A REFUTATION OF THE PROOF THAT HEAVEN IS HOTTER THAN HELL
In Applied Optics (1972, 11 A14) there appeared a calculation of the respective temperatures of Heaven and Hell. That of Heaven was computed by substituting the values given in Isaiah 30 26 [1] in the Stefan-Boltzman radiation law, so that (H/E)4 = 50, where E, the absolute temperature of the Earth, is 300ºK, whence the temperature of Heaven, H, is 798ºK or 525ºC. This is hard to find fault with.
The assessment of the temperature of Hell stands, I suggest, on less firm ground. As authority we use the data provided in Revelations 21 8 [2], so that the temperature of Hell seems to be 444.6ºC–the temperature at which liquid sulfur is in equilibrium with its vapour–a temperature indeed which is sufficiently reliable to be used in the secondary calibration of pyrometers.
Now this last reckoning fails to follow the argument through. 444.6ºC is the temperature at which liquid sulfur is in equilibrium with its vapour at normal atmospheric pressure. Have we any data as to the pressure likely to be found in Hell?
The answer is "Yes". A nineteenth century mathematician has already provided the groundwork for Us [3] and we may feel confident that by the year 2000 the total number of the damned will be at least 29,422,641,251,519,917,000 souls. Yet the area of the valley of Gehinnom [4] is only 7,000,000 square meters.
We can now apply these figures in the Ideal Gas Equation to calculate what the pressure will be in the valley of Gehinnom. Since surely some souls must have been damned since 1877 [5], the pressure can only have increased since these calculations were made and the equilibrium point on the phase diagram of sulfur must have shifted still further, so that if we can show that at a temperature of 525ºC sulfur would still be liquid at the pressure calculated (which is a minimum value, remember). Hell (Gehinnom) is now cooler than Heaven.
Certain corrections must be applied first, however.
1. Neiht based his calculation on a date of creation of 1658 + 2326 - 1877 = 2107 BC (minimum). Counting generations in the Bible gives a date for the Creation of 4004 BC. However, atomic dating has shown that Olduvai man is at least 2 × 106 years old [6].
2. We should use a Fibonacci series for the expansion, not a simple doubling series. [7] The ancient Jewish laws against inbreeding also act in the same direction. [8]
3. By a fortunate coincidence, the effects of 1 and 2 cancel each other exactly. [9]
4. The human body is not an ideal gas, but
5. A good deal of it is gaseous at 525ºC, and in any case,
6. It could well be that at very great pressures the external pressure may well exceed the pressure of electromagnetic repulsion, when different "gas" laws would apply. This merely explains how the Lord works in fitting so large a number of damned souls into so small a space [10] and it need not be quantitative.
In the calculation the following assumptions are made:
1. The average height can be taken as one meter. This seems a fair figure between the newborn babe and the fullgrown man.
2. The average space needed is about 30 cm × 20 cm. It seems unlikely that any closer packing could be achieved. Neiht uses a figure of 1/20 cubic meters per person, which is nearly identical with my independent assessment. Mine allows a neat cancellation, later.
3. I have assumed that not more than two layers of damned persons can be accommodated, since otherwise those in the middle layers would escape the full rigours of Hell.
So that,
The volume available in Gehenna is 60 × 106 × 2 m3 and
The original volume of the damned is 0.06 × 29.422641 × 1018m3
Then, at constant temperature (which we assume, taking equilibrium)
P1V1 = P2V2 or P2 = P1V1/V2
Substituting,
P2 = [29 × 6 × 1016] / [2 × 6 × 107] = 14.5 × 109 atmospheres
(1)
Now let us see what pressure is needed to liquefy sulfur vapour at 525ºC.
We have, using the Clausius-Cleypeyron equation in its integrated form,
Log P = 7.43287 - 3268.2 / T
where P = pressure in mm Hg
and T = the elevated boiling point in ºK,
so that
Log P = 7.43287 - (3268.2/798) = 3.3373813
whence,
P = 2174.607 mm Hg = 2.86 atmospheres
(2)
(1) is so much greater than (2) that Revelations 21 8 indicates a temperature very considerably higher than 525ºC.
Thus, Hell is hotter than Heaven (which remains deucedly hot).
BTW, the author of this is: Dr. Tim Healey, F. R. C. R.; M. I. Nuc. E.
If you read clear down to here, I guess I didnt bore you
In Applied Optics (1972, 11 A14) there appeared a calculation of the respective temperatures of Heaven and Hell. That of Heaven was computed by substituting the values given in Isaiah 30 26 [1] in the Stefan-Boltzman radiation law, so that (H/E)4 = 50, where E, the absolute temperature of the Earth, is 300ºK, whence the temperature of Heaven, H, is 798ºK or 525ºC. This is hard to find fault with.
The assessment of the temperature of Hell stands, I suggest, on less firm ground. As authority we use the data provided in Revelations 21 8 [2], so that the temperature of Hell seems to be 444.6ºC–the temperature at which liquid sulfur is in equilibrium with its vapour–a temperature indeed which is sufficiently reliable to be used in the secondary calibration of pyrometers.
Now this last reckoning fails to follow the argument through. 444.6ºC is the temperature at which liquid sulfur is in equilibrium with its vapour at normal atmospheric pressure. Have we any data as to the pressure likely to be found in Hell?
The answer is "Yes". A nineteenth century mathematician has already provided the groundwork for Us [3] and we may feel confident that by the year 2000 the total number of the damned will be at least 29,422,641,251,519,917,000 souls. Yet the area of the valley of Gehinnom [4] is only 7,000,000 square meters.
We can now apply these figures in the Ideal Gas Equation to calculate what the pressure will be in the valley of Gehinnom. Since surely some souls must have been damned since 1877 [5], the pressure can only have increased since these calculations were made and the equilibrium point on the phase diagram of sulfur must have shifted still further, so that if we can show that at a temperature of 525ºC sulfur would still be liquid at the pressure calculated (which is a minimum value, remember). Hell (Gehinnom) is now cooler than Heaven.
Certain corrections must be applied first, however.
1. Neiht based his calculation on a date of creation of 1658 + 2326 - 1877 = 2107 BC (minimum). Counting generations in the Bible gives a date for the Creation of 4004 BC. However, atomic dating has shown that Olduvai man is at least 2 × 106 years old [6].
2. We should use a Fibonacci series for the expansion, not a simple doubling series. [7] The ancient Jewish laws against inbreeding also act in the same direction. [8]
3. By a fortunate coincidence, the effects of 1 and 2 cancel each other exactly. [9]
4. The human body is not an ideal gas, but
5. A good deal of it is gaseous at 525ºC, and in any case,
6. It could well be that at very great pressures the external pressure may well exceed the pressure of electromagnetic repulsion, when different "gas" laws would apply. This merely explains how the Lord works in fitting so large a number of damned souls into so small a space [10] and it need not be quantitative.
In the calculation the following assumptions are made:
1. The average height can be taken as one meter. This seems a fair figure between the newborn babe and the fullgrown man.
2. The average space needed is about 30 cm × 20 cm. It seems unlikely that any closer packing could be achieved. Neiht uses a figure of 1/20 cubic meters per person, which is nearly identical with my independent assessment. Mine allows a neat cancellation, later.
3. I have assumed that not more than two layers of damned persons can be accommodated, since otherwise those in the middle layers would escape the full rigours of Hell.
So that,
The volume available in Gehenna is 60 × 106 × 2 m3 and
The original volume of the damned is 0.06 × 29.422641 × 1018m3
Then, at constant temperature (which we assume, taking equilibrium)
P1V1 = P2V2 or P2 = P1V1/V2
Substituting,
P2 = [29 × 6 × 1016] / [2 × 6 × 107] = 14.5 × 109 atmospheres
(1)
Now let us see what pressure is needed to liquefy sulfur vapour at 525ºC.
We have, using the Clausius-Cleypeyron equation in its integrated form,
Log P = 7.43287 - 3268.2 / T
where P = pressure in mm Hg
and T = the elevated boiling point in ºK,
so that
Log P = 7.43287 - (3268.2/798) = 3.3373813
whence,
P = 2174.607 mm Hg = 2.86 atmospheres
(2)
(1) is so much greater than (2) that Revelations 21 8 indicates a temperature very considerably higher than 525ºC.
Thus, Hell is hotter than Heaven (which remains deucedly hot).
BTW, the author of this is: Dr. Tim Healey, F. R. C. R.; M. I. Nuc. E.
If you read clear down to here, I guess I didnt bore you
Moon wolf, I am so sorry to hear that. Good luck finding something. What area are you looking in?
Tropy,
Good job, You get a trophy.
zzzzzzz
What kind of tropism are you?
Phototropism?
Geotropism?
Sexuatropism?
Hey, Licky. It is for a Greenhouse that specializes in BONSAI! I am sure that I have a great shot at the job. It is a part time deal, which is perfect, because with my part time flower shop job, and my volunteering at the Medicinal Herb garden at one of our historic parks here, I really don't have time to do that full time, and survive my illness. I am overtaxed as it is.
However, I REALLY want this job. They are so cool there, and I would love to do bonsai for them and care for the plants.
Tropy,
Good job, You get a trophy.
zzzzzzz
What kind of tropism are you?
Phototropism?
Geotropism?
Sexuatropism?
Hey, Licky. It is for a Greenhouse that specializes in BONSAI! I am sure that I have a great shot at the job. It is a part time deal, which is perfect, because with my part time flower shop job, and my volunteering at the Medicinal Herb garden at one of our historic parks here, I really don't have time to do that full time, and survive my illness. I am overtaxed as it is.
However, I REALLY want this job. They are so cool there, and I would love to do bonsai for them and care for the plants.
Nathon_88
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Starfish said:Moon wolf, I am so sorry to hear that. Good luck finding something. What area are you looking in?
Tropy,
Good job, You get a trophy.
zzzzzzz
What kind of tropism are you?
Phototropism?
Geotropism?
Sexuatropism?
Hey, Licky. It is for a Greenhouse that specializes in BONSAI! I am sure that I have a great shot at the job. It is a part time deal, which is perfect, because with my part time flower shop job, and my volunteering at the Medicinal Herb garden at one of our historic parks here, I really don't have time to do that full time, and survive my illness. I am overtaxed as it is.
However, I REALLY want this job. They are so cool there, and I would love to do bonsai for them and care for the plants.
We aim to please......hmmmm....sleep.....off the cuff(Kinda hard, wearing a housecoat....)
Sleep, to dream, to pass the time,
To caress our lover through air red as wine,
To let oneself fall fast asleep,
Much better than counting sheep,
So sleep, dear one, and dream of trees,
Ones that will take your love in deep,
Now off to bed, and sleep, dear one,
Then tommorow, show them you are fun.
Have a wonderful day.
CurlyGirly
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Re: Boring to sleep
I could always talk about car insurance, that bores most of my policyholders silly.
My mind is restless tonight too. Perhaps because after a month of sick leave, I actually have to go back to work tomorrow.
Good luck on the job interview, Starfish.
I could always talk about car insurance, that bores most of my policyholders silly.
My mind is restless tonight too. Perhaps because after a month of sick leave, I actually have to go back to work tomorrow.
Good luck on the job interview, Starfish.
Tropism
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Starfish said:What kind of tropism are you?
Phototropism?
Geotropism?
Sexuatropism?
Ah, a budding botanist has nipped away my seclusive foliage! Unless botanist is too specific for your broad experience with plants...
I guess all three apply, as I'm inclined to sneak off into the dark and succumb to gravity to lie with a stimulating mate of the fairer gender.
GO to sleep! Reread that heaven/hell thing or some of curlygirly's insurance info (ugh that one would make me doze off)
Good luck on the interview!
Tropism
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Re: Nathon that was beautiful. Thank you for sharing that.
Ah, sorry.
There *is* a big difference, isnt there. I'll have to brush up on my -ist and -ology reading-- but the reading here is so much easier. A lot of the words here are only four letters or so
Starfish said:
Horticulturist!
Night!
Ah, sorry.
There *is* a big difference, isnt there. I'll have to brush up on my -ist and -ology reading-- but the reading here is so much easier. A lot of the words here are only four letters or so
scylis
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you know, all this talk brings back memories, let me tell you. my great-great cousin One-knee was one of the adventurers that hunted the Great Witch of the Hills long ago. Said she had a fondness for little children and that her house was made of chocolate candy, of all things. personally, a house made of turnips sounds much more appealing, but One-knee stated decisivly that it was delicious nevertheless. according to his stories, the witch was dead... something about getting shoved into an oven... but then gramma Jansen said that old One-knee was pretty dilusional, so who knows.
what's that? ah, yes. off to rescue the kiddnapped victim to restore one's good name! sounds like a tale my Aunt Bertha once told me... although it was her turnip pie recipe that was being held hostage. still, turnips are a serious business where i come from. you should have seen Aunt Bertha ride in, armed to the teeth, battling Aunt Binny for the right to her pie. the entire village almost went to war over that one... worst crisis since the griffon famine of '22. aahhhh, nostalgia...
what's that? ah, yes. off to rescue the kiddnapped victim to restore one's good name! sounds like a tale my Aunt Bertha once told me... although it was her turnip pie recipe that was being held hostage. still, turnips are a serious business where i come from. you should have seen Aunt Bertha ride in, armed to the teeth, battling Aunt Binny for the right to her pie. the entire village almost went to war over that one... worst crisis since the griffon famine of '22. aahhhh, nostalgia...
sch00lteacher
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Lots of luck Mz. Fish. Hope you want it after the interview, hope you get it if you want it.
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Lots of luck Mz. Fish. Hope you want it after the interview, hope you get it if you want it.
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I GOT IT!!!!!!!!!
*Does little happy dance*
I got the job and I am sooooo fucking happy!
All of this positive energy made me feel so confidant, and so alive and I was so postive and courageous that I just said and did the right things and he Hired me over the phone.
He hasn't even met me.
I was supposed to go in, but decided to call to verify, and he got on the phone and interviewed me right there.
I am going in tomorrow, but he said he wanted me because of my experiance, and that it seemed that I loved that sort of thing, and that is rare.
What is so fucking amazing is how flexible he and his company is.
He needs me full time, but will do part time if I can't do it, and he'll even work with me around EVERYTHING! Also, he is paying me really well, because of my qualifications, even though it is a low paying job because of the field it is in. The job is only seasonal, but it is just what I need. Also, I have a feeling that if they like me, and I work out for them, they'll rehire me each year if I want.
I am so happy right now.
Thank you for all of the encouragement and postive energy you guys!
*Does little happy dance*
I got the job and I am sooooo fucking happy!
All of this positive energy made me feel so confidant, and so alive and I was so postive and courageous that I just said and did the right things and he Hired me over the phone.
He hasn't even met me.
I was supposed to go in, but decided to call to verify, and he got on the phone and interviewed me right there.
I am going in tomorrow, but he said he wanted me because of my experiance, and that it seemed that I loved that sort of thing, and that is rare.
What is so fucking amazing is how flexible he and his company is.
He needs me full time, but will do part time if I can't do it, and he'll even work with me around EVERYTHING! Also, he is paying me really well, because of my qualifications, even though it is a low paying job because of the field it is in. The job is only seasonal, but it is just what I need. Also, I have a feeling that if they like me, and I work out for them, they'll rehire me each year if I want.
I am so happy right now.
Thank you for all of the encouragement and postive energy you guys!
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Wooooooohoooooo!!
Congrats lovely Seastar!!!!!
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Congrats lovely Seastar!!!!!
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