Hypothetical question

[BarondeSade]

Hypothetical question: Suppose a sixteen-year-old character is killed in a story and comes back in three years as a ghost, would it be allowed to participate in sexual situations as a nineteen year old even though it had a sixteen-year-old body?

 

[PennLady]

Hypothetical question: Suppose a sixteen-year-old character is killed in a story and comes back in three years as a ghost, would it be allowed to participate in sexual situations as a nineteen year old even though it had a sixteen-year-old body?

Why not make it a 16yo mind in a 19yo body? What was going on during those three years? I think -- but someone correct me if I'm wrong -- that it's chronological age that's important.

 

[CharleyH]

Supposing anyone gets off after the death scene? Nothing wrong with the scenario, IMO. I would like to think your story allowed, but I'm certain it would be refused on Lit. The ghost is still 16, no?

 

[BarondeSade]

So...

So, since the definition of chronoligal age is "the duration, or the measure of time, of the existence of a person or object", the girl, who existed as a girl in human form for sixteen years and as a ghost for three, would qualify as a nineteen year old, the way I see it...

The girl's ghost in my story inhabited a vacant cabin for the three years and didn't reappear until the hero of the story comes along...

 

[sr71plt]

Why is it you need to have those ages? When you figure that out, you'll probably know why Lit. might reject it. (I don't know that they would.)

 

[lovecraft68]

Hypothetical question: Suppose a sixteen-year-old character is killed in a story and comes back in three years as a ghost, would it be allowed to participate in sexual situations as a nineteen year old even though it had a sixteen-year-old body?

Not to be a killjoy but ghosts do not age. If a 16 year old died three years ago and came back they are still 16.

You could try a 19 year old possessed by the spirit of the ghost but trust me when I tell you that the word "16" will get you nailed regardless.

I used "I was 16 and lying in my bed" to open a chapter. Nothing sexual follows. Sister comes in to comfort him as he had a nightmare. They lie down together and she stays in his bed until he sleeps. It was booted for the question "Did your story contain underage sex" so don't waste your time.

 

[3113]

Hypothetical question: Suppose a sixteen-year-old character is killed in a story and comes back in three years as a ghost, would it be allowed to participate in sexual situations as a nineteen year old even though it had a sixteen-year-old body?

Why don't you make your character who dies and comes back as a ghost a nineteen year old and avoid the issue altogether?

In theory, you can do a lot with the supernatural or fantasy that you can't do otherwise in Lit. But I think this will ring the alarm bells and not be allowed (as compared to, say, a character having sex with a werewolf would be allowed, but a character having sex with a dog wouldn't).

It hardly matter if three years pass or a hundred. As Lovecraft says, ghosts don't age and what you're proposing is a sixteen-year-old having sex. Just imagine if you asked the same question, only the ghost was a five-year-old and had been dead for fifty years. If she was captured in some magic circle and made to have sex, would you consider it sex with a fifty year old or a five year old? And do you think Lit would allow it?

 

[Stella_Omega]

I'm betting it's a virgin ghost.

 

[Tio_Narratore]

Sorry, I'm in Forensic Anthropology, and we establish the age of the decedent as of their death. You don't age after you die. Death, of course, is the only way to avoid getting old. Ask Achilles.

 

[Boxlicker101]

I don't believe the ghost of a 16 year old would be permitted to be involved sexually. I also believe a 16 year old vampire or werewolf would not be allowed to be involved sexually. A supernatural creature that has never been human could probably be any age, but if it was or sometimes is human, the age would have to be 18.

 

[lovecraft68]

I'm betting it's a virgin ghost.

Casper the cherry ghost

 

[MarlowBunny]

I'm betting it's a virgin ghost.

There is a fetish for virginity regardless of age.

- Men have fears of inadequacy and hope that their lover won't know any better... maybe?
- Men are honored to be granted the extra degree of trust implied by the likely long lasting memory of a "first time?"
- Virgins tend to be tight? [might matter most to men with inadequacy?]
- Virgins are assumed to be naive, and that is attractive? [naive implies "not world weary" and not jaded]

The best ever example of the beauty possible in association with the fetish is http://www.literotica.com/s/nothing-between-us

 

[lovecraft68]

I don't believe the ghost of a 16 year old would be permitted to be involved sexually. I also believe a 16 year old vampire or werewolf would not be allowed to be involved sexually. A supernatural creature that has never been human could probably be any age, but if it was or sometimes is human, the age would have to be 18.

Wow. We really do all have to much time on our hands here. But like you and I are saying 16 is red flag no matter what. I realized a few hours after I submitted my last e-book that I had the female character describe her first time as "We were both 17 I was nervous and so was he. It lasted two minutes and he made a mess on my thigh."
I found myself amazed that it actually didn't get kicked back. Maybe there wasn't enough detail.

 

[lovecraft68]

There is a fetish for virginity regardless of age.

- Men have fears of inadequacy and hope that their lover won't know any better... maybe?
- Men are honored to be granted the extra degree of trust implied by the likely long lasting memory of a "first time?"
- Virgins tend to be tight? [might matter most to men with inadequacy?]
- Virgins are assumed to be naive, and that is attractive? [naive implies "not world weary" and not jaded]

The best ever example of the beauty possible in association with the fetish is http://www.literotica.com/s/nothing-between-us

I'd say #'s 2 and 4 in my opinion.

I also think I am going soft because if I were single at my age (40..ish!) I would not want to take a girl's virginity I would feel like a thief. sides I am too old to teach and want a good time!

 

[sr71plt]

I don't believe the ghost of a 16 year old would be permitted to be involved sexually. I also believe a 16 year old vampire or werewolf would not be allowed to be involved sexually. A supernatural creature that has never been human could probably be any age, but if it was or sometimes is human, the age would have to be 18.

You're setting ground rules for imaginary characters?

 

[MarlowBunny]

I also think I am going soft because if I were single at my age (40..ish!) I would not want to take a girl's virginity I would feel like a thief. sides I am too old to teach and want a good time!

I want someone to teach me! I can't possibly know everything yet. Experience and wisdom in a lover have their value too.

 

[lovecraft68]

I want someone to teach me! I can't possibly know everything yet. Experience and wisdom in a lover have their value too.

I agree never too old to learn new tricks but I wouldn't think a virgin could show me anything. Although your average 20 year old girl these days is a hell of a lot more advanced then when I was that age.

 

[sr71plt]

There is a fetish for virginity regardless of age.

- Men have fears of inadequacy and hope that their lover won't know any better... maybe?
- Men are honored to be granted the extra degree of trust implied by the likely long lasting memory of a "first time?"
- Virgins tend to be tight? [might matter most to men with inadequacy?]
- Virgins are assumed to be naive, and that is attractive? [naive implies "not world weary" and not jaded]

The best ever example of the beauty possible in association with the fetish is http://www.literotica.com/s/nothing-between-us

And then there is the majority reason: the thrill of taking as many first-time scalps as possible.

 

[3113]

There is a fetish for virginity regardless of age.

Also regardless of gender. You name only sex between a man and a virginal woman, but there's many a woman (or gay man) who fetishizes being a young man's first (um, not me because I think a sex-starved and nervous youth wouldn't be highly coordinated nor experienced nor able to take the time to pleasure me, but, clearly, this is a fetish that has a lot of fantasies attached to it).

--Some women (gay males) like that they'll be in control and able to instruct the young man.
--Some women find it sweet to be given the honor (and some gay men find it an honor)
--Virgin men are going to be enthusiastic, energetic and eager to please, and not as demanding that they be pleased back
--Virgins are assumed naive and that's attractive

 

[lovecraft68]

Also regardless of gender. You name only sex between a man and a virginal woman, but there's many a woman (or gay man) who fetishizes being a young man's first (um, not me because I think a sex-starved and nervous youth wouldn't be highly coordinated nor experienced nor able to take the time to pleasure me, but, clearly, this is a fetish that has a lot of fantasies attached to it).

--Some women (gay males) like that they'll be in control and able to instruct the young man.
--Some women find it sweet to be given the honor (and some gay men find it an honor)
--Virgin men are going to be enthusiastic, energetic and eager to please, and not as demanding that they be pleased back
--Virgins are assumed naive and that's attractive

well of course they shoot off quick that is why in all the seduction's the girl gives them a BJ first "take the edge off" or maybe that is just in my stories.

 

[Boxlicker101]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Boxlicker101
I don't believe the ghost of a 16 year old would be permitted to be involved sexually. I also believe a 16 year old vampire or werewolf would not be allowed to be involved sexually. A supernatural creature that has never been human could probably be any age, but if it was or sometimes is human, the age would have to be 18.

You're setting ground rules for imaginary characters?

Of course not. I don't set ground rules for anything, and neither do you. All I am doing is predicting how such examples would be decided by Management. I could easily be wrong.

You certainly are prickly toward me.

 

[Boxlicker101]

well of course they shoot off quick that is why in all the seduction's the girl gives them a BJ first "take the edge off" or maybe that is just in my stories.

In my stories, if a man is young and horny, virgin or not, the woman or gay man will sometimes give him a BJ for the reason you suggest. I have already written of a premature ejaculation, with the woman using her wiles and her hands and mouth to get him ready again, which doesn't take all that long with a young man.

 

[sr71plt]

You certainly are prickly toward me.

I post to posts, not to posters. If I seem to be prickly toward your posts, you probably should be looking to your posts, not mine, for an explanation.

 

[Darkniciad]

I'm with SR. Is the age that important?

If it is, then I think you're going to be in trouble, as you say that she hasn't interacted or really observed the world until the story kicks off with the hero.

If she at least observed the living still in the world around her, learning and maturing, then I don't see where there's any difference between passing three years in a physical body or a ghostly one. You would, of course, have to get it across that she's been doing this in the story.

As it stands, if she's just sort of been drifting around in that cabin, then she's still at the same maturity level she was when she died, perhaps having no real concept that the time has passed at all, and I don't think it's going to fly.

 

[sr71plt]

Beyond that, I think the whole reason that people post questions/possible scenarios like this is that they want to write underage--that it's the underage seekers who are their target audience--and that they want to see how they can circumvent the rules here. It's the underage that is what's important to them, not any other plot element.

I don't see wasting a whole thread discussing around what is obviously what they are trying to do.