Hunter Biden

[MonaLittle]

Hypothetical -

The MSM reports on Hunter Biden's No No's and "The Big Guys" involvement in it, as well as Obama's role in it. Would it have made a difference in the way people voted? Or, how they will vote?


I personally don't think it would make a bit of difference. People have their minds made up.


Part 2 -

Are ALL Politicians Crooked?

 

[Lespayne]

Too Late. Plus the MSM is burying the story!

Not all are crooked!

 

[jaF0]

Part 2 -

Are ALL Politicians Crooked?

Yes.

Think about the lying, cheating, scamming and scheming it takes to get to that point. I personally have never met an honest politician, even at the local level.

 

[IceDemon]

Going forward from here, the mainstream media have irreparably damaged their collective reputation by trying to ignore and bury this whole affair.

 

[Wrong Element]

"Dumbass family member trades on name to get ahead" is a tale as old as time, and not just in politics.

Where it becomes of interest to me is if this sort of thing is impacting policy in a way that harms the national interest. The evidence for that regarding Hunter Biden is nonexistent.

 

[WillJ8787]

Sorry, this is a false narrative put forth by folks on the right. No one reputable covers this story because it isn't one.

Yep, Hunter did something he had no qualifications and got paid for it...like Ivanka, Jarred and others in the Trump family. Other President's did this too.

Was it not a good idea for Biden to allow it to happen...yep!
Was it unethical, probably.

No illegality exists(just like Ivanka and Jarred).

So, noone but dopey political hacks follow this story. Even Fox has dropped it.

 

[Fuzzy1975]

Yes.

Think about the lying, cheating, scamming and scheming it takes to get to that point. I personally have never met an honest politician, even at the local level.

You should get out more then, and meet them.

While I can't speak for your american counterparts, in Canada in the province of Ontario where I reside there are 444 municipalities. Of those only 62 have what would be called a full time employed Mayor ( even less municipalities have full time councillors).

Of the 382 without full time political jobs, the pay is minimal, more like being a volunteer in a non profit organisation.

The rules of finance in Ontario for Municipalities is pretty stringent and have a lot of financial controls in place to protect the public purse.

Every municipality is audited EVERY year, once by MMAH and once by an account firm. There is little room for fraudulent activity.

So while the US may be a hot ground for political crookery, don't go painting ALL politicians as crooks, it's a big world, and lots of none American Politicians are out there.

 

[jaF0]

I didn't say they were all crooks. I said they weren't honest. They can't be when you have to lie so openly to get elected or appoi9nted. You have to say thing you know aren't necessarily true. 'I'll do this', 'I'll do that'. 'This will get done'. No one can honestly say things like that and know that they will, indeed be true.

On the OP, there is no story to report. And the person in question is not the candidate.

 

[MonaLittle]

Sorry, this is a false narrative put forth by folks on the right. No one reputable covers this story because it isn't one.

Yep, Hunter did something he had no qualifications and got paid for it...like Ivanka, Jarred and others in the Trump family. Other President's did this too.

Was it not a good idea for Biden to allow it to happen...yep!
Was it unethical, probably.

No illegality exists(just like Ivanka and Jarred).

So, noone but dopey political hacks follow this story. Even Fox has dropped it.

Really? Ive gotten to the point where I don’t believe anything the media reports. I’ve lost all confidence in them.

That being said, I agree with you. I just don’t think it would make a difference. Ppl want who they want regardless of what has or has not been swept under the rug.

 

[MonaLittle]

I didn't say they were all crooks. I said they weren't honest. They can't be when you have to lie so openly to get elected or appoi9nted. You have to say thing you know aren't necessarily true. 'I'll do this', 'I'll do that'. 'This will get done'. No one can honestly say things like that and know that they will, indeed be true.

On the OP, there is no story to report. And the person in question is not the candidate.

I understood what you meant and I tend to agree with you.

Ppl just like to blow up at each other these days. When they do, you just have to realize it’s them...and not you.

 

[KeithD]

Stories on the Biden family members not running for office pale in the face of the stories on the Trump family members not running, but draining money from the government anyway. Anyone who doesn't understand that is too dumb to try to educate anyway.

 

[MonaLittle]

"Dumbass family member trades on name to get ahead" is a tale as old as time, and not just in politics.

Where it becomes of interest to me is if this sort of thing is impacting policy in a way that harms the national interest. The evidence for that regarding Hunter Biden is nonexistent.

This is so well said and has so much truth and honesty to it, W E

 

[MonaLittle]

Stories on the Biden family members not running for office pale in the face of the stories on the Trump family members not running, but draining money from the government anyway. Anyone who doesn't understand that is too dumb to try to educate anyway.

That wasn’t really the question in my OP. Was it?

 

[phrodeau]

Too Late. Plus the MSM is burying the story!

That’s a lie.

Going forward from here, the mainstream media have irreparably damaged their collective reputation by trying to ignore and bury this whole affair.

That’s also a lie.

Wall Street Journal investigated Giuliani’s story and decided nothing was there. Business Insider also investigated and found lots of holes and inconsistencies, which they published.

 

[Fuzzy1975]

I didn't say they were all crooks. I said they weren't honest. They can't be when you have to lie so openly to get elected or appoi9nted. You have to say thing you know aren't necessarily true. 'I'll do this', 'I'll do that'. 'This will get done'. No one can honestly say things like that and know that they will, indeed be true.

On the OP, there is no story to report. And the person in question is not the candidate.

honest meaning

"free of deceit and untruthfulness; sincere."

So why lie, if not for nefarious reasons?

Perhaps a lack of understanding of what they can actually achieve in the elected roll, or perhaps to counter some other deceitful person running who knowingly lies about what they can do.

The problem is not the "politician" it is the uneducated electors, who can be taken in by promises the candidate has no ability to ever deliver on. An educated elector is the best defence against politicians. Look to the 60 million or so fools who voted for Trump....

 

[IceDemon]

That’s a lie.

That’s also a lie.

Wall Street Journal investigated Giuliani’s story and decided nothing was there. Business Insider also investigated and found lots of holes and inconsistencies, which they published.

Whatever. There has just been a devastating Tucker Carlson interview with Tony Bobulinski, Hunter Biden's former business partner, blowing the lid on the whole thing. Joe Biden has laughably tried to dismiss him as a Russian disinformation agent.

The penny will drop with you eventually.

 

[jaF0]

Did Fox's lawyers just argue in court that TC is a joke and not to be believed? That no one takes him to be factual?

 

[IceDemon]

Did Fox's lawyers just argue in court that TC is a joke and not to be believed? That no one takes him to be factual?

Tony Bobulinski was speaking.

 

[bodysong]

The Candidate (1972)

Robert Redford portrays a Democrat that enters into the campaign election to become a Senator.

Near the end of the film, someone pats him on the back, and tells Redford that he", is a real
politician, now." Redford responds with anger in his eyes, and looks as if he is about to
punch the lights out of his well-wisher. After the initial gut -level reaction, Redford appears
to be struck by a sudden realization- that all of his life, the word had the most ugly and
negative connotations, that he, himself had thought the worst about politicians.
After the pause, Redford laughs out loud, and looks into the face of the man
that had congratulated him, and pats him on the back- continuing to laugh.

During the process of the election campaign, his former normal day-to-day life changes
drastically, and he faces many compromises. He is worn down, worn out, and in need
of a vacation at the end of the process.

Collection of police drama series on cable TV portrayed the efforts of an election campaign,
as a marketplace where individuals, or groups of people, are all paying campaign cash,
to get something for themselves- something tangible.

Not surprising, considering greed and gluttony is something the human race is faced with.

 

[Dribble]

Sorry, this is a false narrative put forth by folks on the right. No one reputable covers this story because it isn't one.

Yep, Hunter did something he had no qualifications and got paid for it...like Ivanka, Jarred and others in the Trump family. Other President's did this too.

Was it not a good idea for Biden to allow it to happen...yep!
Was it unethical, probably.

No illegality exists(just like Ivanka and Jarred).

So, noone but dopey political hacks follow this story. Even Fox has dropped it.

Ding ding ding we have a winner

 

[Paul_Chance]

Did Fox's lawyers just argue in court that TC is a joke and not to be believed? That no one takes him to be factual?

LOL - not in those exact words, but yes. (It's also the defense MSNBC mounted for Rachel Maddow a few months back.)

They are "opinion" shows - not "news" shows.

Thinking about it, I would personally love to see them (either network) go into court and flat out say: "Your honor, my client is full of shit. Everyone knows it. However, the constitution protects people who are full shit and talking out their ass, so we're good here. Word." (Then a mic drop.)

 

[LLCox]

I'm always ready to talk nepotism with any of trumps family or followers.

 

[phrodeau]

Tony Bobulinski was speaking.

Did he say anything important? I can’t find it.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8886515/Releases-clip-Bidens-imploring-not-public.html

 

[WillJ8787]

Really? Ive gotten to the point where I don’t believe anything the media reports. I’ve lost all confidence in them.

That being said, I agree with you. I just don’t think it would make a difference. Ppl want who they want regardless of what has or has not been swept under the rug.

The media(cable TV) has become dominated by opinion "shows" so for me understanding the slant gives you the narrative they are shooting for...Rachel Maddie, Erin Barnett slant left and they present an opinion show that is constructed around real facts that are then talked about Ina left slant.

Same for Hannity or Tucker, except they slant way to the right.

On the same networks you can find more fact based presentations of the news without much opinion or way less opinion...and they are on the less lucrative time slots because left or right... people are somewhat obtuse and want the opinion provided to them. They seek out their own biases.

The truest form of fact based tv news still is the major network 30 minute format of nightly news which is almost all facts presentation without opinion.

So many outlets for news exist today it would take a while to describe most of them and due to the declines in news reading and reading in general, the all are highly competitive for an audience and that forces most to become sensational opinion sources.

This is one of the major downfalls of our Country and I think it is a world wide phenomenon. The dumbing down of everything. Just look around in this site and you see evidence of the affect of dumbed down information....a few folks here are informed and a whole lot just are not.

 

[butters]

since when did hannity and tucker discuss anything based on actual real-world 'facts'?