How?

[Fala]

Gravity, relativity, quantum theory, string theory: bogus. The hidden truth: All temporal-spatial and mass-energy effects are the work of demons. Big demon; wee little demons; barely conveivable demons. Yes, it's demons all the way down, and back.

We can stimulate and provoke these demons to do stuff that LOOKS like we've physically manipulated elements and equations according to what LOOK like the rules of science. But really, it takes magick. Here at LIT we should focus on Sex Magick. That'll move ya!

Next module: How to find and tame unicorns by wishing really, really hard.

There is no emoticon to express here. seriously.

 

[EternalFantasies]

It seems to me that several people came into your thread with noble intentions. Yes, there may have been a post or two mocking you.

However, most were kind and quite informative.


tbh, the most appalling and rudest post here was the one that YOU posted of the dog being kicked over the bridge.

just sayin'......

Ya.

Just come out clean and say you do not have an answer to my question.

Uh, gravity?

 

[Fala]

Ya.

Just come out clean and say you do not have an answer to my question.

Uh, gravity?

I gave a rather kind and succinct answer to a fucking stupid question.


....do you really want to take this further?

 

[EternalFantasies]

I gave a rather kind and succinct answer to a fucking stupid question.

I wouldn't call it succinct.

But yes, you gave an answer, I elaborated the conversation, you said nothing...



Ur friend's an ass. And once he starts speaking like a human being, I'll treat him as one.


Got an answer or you wish to play politics? I can do both science salon and gutter; your pick.

 

[Freudian_Slit]

Sooo.. So far, besides the midget driving retard and the abnormal, we have the resident doofus who is fully ready to give me this above, but says to a laymen's terms request:

So he threw a book at me!



And unwittingly projecting what he essentially is, threw the word 'Mass' at me.


All I got is ridicule, and not ONE is able to explain this apparently basic common knowledge...

And before anyone replies again with mass traveling through curved space, that's how Earth is kept in an orbit around the big mass in curved space, the Sun.

My question is: how are we drawn inwards on Earth?

Jackasses.

I gave you a succinct and technically accurate answer to your first inquiry, if only you'd give it a moment's thought. Then, to your next inquiry, I recommended two highly regarded classics in popular science literature. General relativity is not something that can be explained to the novice in anything approaching technical clarity in the time I wish to be on the GB. So, if you're going to act like a petulant child about it, you can just piss right off, fucknugget.

 

[Fala]

I wouldn't call it succinct.

But yes, you gave an answer, I elaborated the conversation, you said nothing...



Ur friend's an ass. And once he starts speaking like a human being, I'll treat him as one.


Got an answer or you wish to play politics? I can do both science salon and gutter; your pick.

I think two words would be regarded as "succinct". Who is my friend? I haven't a clue what you are talking about.

I think you are a tad nuts, dude.

 

[EternalFantasies]

I gave you a succinct and technically accurate answer to your first inquiry, if only you'd give it a moment's thought. Then, to your next inquiry, I recommended two highly regarded classics in popular science literature. General relativity is not something that can be explained to the novice in anything approaching technical clarity in the time I wish to be on the GB. So, if you're going to act like a petulant child about it, you can just piss right off, fucknugget.

Why not?

Why couldn't it be briefly described?

As in, what's the source of earth's gravity?

If you can only explain it through a formula, then there's a chance you don't understand it; you only understand the formula.

And no, your mass motion in curved space applies to the Sun's gravity on Earth, not earth's on us.

So how come no one can briefly say how earth pulls everything down, but can easily say a larger mass in space's curve keeps the Earth orbiting the Sun?

 

[Colonel Hogan]

Jesus fucking Christ. Where the fuck did you go to school, the fifteen hundreds?

As long as we're nitpicking intellect, the 1500s would be when he went to school, not where he went to school.

 

[Liar]

I am looking gravity for dummies explanation, without needing to read what scientific terms mean etc.

Since it is so basic and common language, anyone can explain where or what causes the earth's gravity?

You're asking for an explanation for gravity?

At this point, the scientific consensus on the matter is pretty much ¯\_(ツ)_/¯. We can see that mass attracts other mass, and can accurately calculate to what degree. But why and how? That's what quantum eggheads with particle accelerators and big-ass telescopes are hard at work trying to figure out.

 

[Liar]

And no, your mass motion in curved space applies to the Sun's gravity on Earth, not earth's on us.

Erm... Yes. Yes it does.

 

[Freudian_Slit]

Why not?

Why couldn't it be briefly described?

As in, what's the source of earth's gravity?

If you can only explain it through a formula, then there's a chance you don't understand it; you only understand the formula.

And no, your mass motion in curved space applies to the Sun's gravity on Earth, not earth's on us.

So how come no one can briefly say how earth pulls everything down, but can easily say a larger mass in space's curve keeps the Earth orbiting the Sun?

Because it's a complicated subject, fer christ's sake. You're asking for a succinct explanation about a topic that involves Ricci curvature tensors, field equations, and stress-energy density. If you want gravity according to GR in a slogan, some of the most that can be said is, "Mass affects the geometry of spacetime, and the geometry of spacetime determines inertial motion." Now, that's not good enough for you, which is why I recommend cracking open a good book or two.

Peace out, girl scout.

 

[Fala]

Because it's a complicated subject, fer christ's sake. You're asking for a succinct explanation about a topic that involves Ricci curvature tensors, field equations, and stress-energy density. If you want gravity according to GR in a slogan, some of the most that can be said is, "Mass affects the geometry of spacetime, and the geometry of spacetime determines inertial motion." Now, that's not good enough for you, which is why I recommend cracking open a good book or two.

Peace out, girl scout.

Oh Gawd....intelligent men make me weak at the knees....


.....tumps over.

 

[Snugbug]

http://i0.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/022/508/C7S0ouqVAAANACj.jpg

Basically gravity works cause the planet is a large chunk of stuff that's big enough to attract other stuff, ex. Me

That's why if you go to a smaller chunk of stuff, ex. Moon, you bounce a lot more, but if you go to a bigger chunk of stuff, ex. Jupiter, you go squish.

 

[Fala]

http://i0.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/022/508/C7S0ouqVAAANACj.jpg

Basically gravity works cause the planet is a large chunk of stuff that's big enough to attract other stuff, ex. Me

That's why if you go to a smaller chunk of stuff, ex. Moon, you bounce a lot more, but if you go to a bigger chunk of stuff, ex. Jupiter, you go squish.

Best answer evah! bwahahahaha

 

[EternalFantasies]

Erm... Yes. Yes it does.

I did originally put 'necessarily',but removed it to get replies first. Yes, indirectly it does also affect the earth's on us, is part of science's current explanation. I was pointing out that it's main effect here is the earth and the sun.

As the resident doofus is highliting below, those include that I know. I just want a laymen's terms explanation.

And science isn't in the 'we don't know' btw. Science tells you Einstein's relativity explained this gravity issue.

Because it's a complicated subject, fer christ's sake. You're asking for a succinct explanation about a topic that involves Ricci curvature tensors, field equations, and stress-energy density. If you want gravity according to GR in a slogan, some of the most that can be said is, "Mass affects the geometry of spacetime, and the geometry of spacetime determines inertial motion." Now, that's not good enough for you, which is why I recommend cracking open a good book or two.

Peace out, girl scout.

Ok - well, that's a start.

This mass of the Sun is affecting space time and we orbit in a function of our own mass. Fantastic.

So my question here would be: is our atmosphere part of space, or spacetime?

 

[EternalFantasies]

No one can tell if the atmosphere is part of spacetime?

 

[EternalFantasies]

I gave a rather kind and succinct answer to a fucking stupid question.


....do you really want to take this further?

1, by now you should know it was not a stupid question.

I think you are a tad nuts, dude.

2. seeing the mocking and attacks instead of a conversation and replying as you did, kinda makes you of that 'sane' mould; and certainly not me.

 

[Adder4321]

Okay, I'm going to try and explain gravity as simply as possible.

Matter attracts other matter. The more mass an object has, the more force it has on other objects. Also, gravity becomes many times weaker the further away from the object you are. I don't know why gravity works like this because I've only done high school level physics.

Now, as for why we stay on the Earth while it spins, it works something like this. The gravitational force that the Earth has is stronger than the centripetal (spinning) force of the Earth. That's really all there is to it.

 

[jaF0]

Our bones are magnets that are attracted to the iron in the core.

That's why we all get sucked down into Hell after we die and are no longer able to stand up.

 

[jaF0]

.

Matter attracts other matter. The more mass

But does Mass matter? I mean unless you're the Pope.

 

[EternalFantasies]

Okay, I'm going to try and explain gravity as simply as possible.

Matter attracts other matter. The more mass an object has, the more force it has on other objects. Also, gravity becomes many times weaker the further away from the object you are. I don't know why gravity works like this because I've only done high school level physics.

Now, as for why we stay on the Earth while it spins, it works something like this. The gravitational force that the Earth has is stronger than the centripetal (spinning) force of the Earth. That's really all there is to it.

Okey. So, it has to do with which mass is heavier than which, and attracts. This is in spacetime.

Is our atmosphere part of space-time, or separate from it, is the step we had reached here...

 

[Adder4321]

Okey. So, it has to do with which mass is heavier than which, and attracts. This is in spacetime.

Is our atmosphere part of space-time, or separate from it, is the step we had reached here...

Every physical thing is part of space-time. The atmosphere is a layer of gases held in place by the Earths gravity.

 

[Freudian_Slit]

I did originally put 'necessarily',but removed it to get replies first. Yes, indirectly it does also affect the earth's on us, is part of science's current explanation. I was pointing out that it's main effect here is the earth and the sun.

As the resident doofus is highliting below, those include that I know. I just want a laymen's terms explanation.

And science isn't in the 'we don't know' btw. Science tells you Einstein's relativity explained this gravity issue.




Ok - well, that's a start.

This mass of the Sun is affecting space time and we orbit in a function of our own mass. Fantastic.

So my question here would be: is our atmosphere part of space, or spacetime?

All mass, as one form of the stress-energy I mentioned earlier, affects the geometry of spacetime. The sun, you, me, everything. Stress-energy that you might not typically associate with mass also affects the geometry of spacetime. In this category belong things like momentum flux and the energy density of light. Please note that one need not have mass (or more generally, stress-energy) to have non trivial spacetime geometry. The gravitational waves of LIGO fame, and Schwarzschild-type black holes both belong to the class of vacuum solutions. Meaning, there is no mass (stress-energy) there to generate the spacetime geometry. That's why we say that stress-energy affects, rather than determines, spacetime geometry. Spacetime geometry is underdetermined by stress-energy.

The atmosphere? You mean that collection of air molecules enveloping the Earth? It's neither space nor spacetime in the sense we're talking about. Atmosphere can be thought of as stress-energy that affects the geometry of spacetime.

 

[EternalFantasies]

Every physical thing is part of space-time. The atmosphere is a layer of gases held in place by the Earths gravity.

Ok, I see this more now. So, since we are tiny compared to the mass of the Earth, we are attracted by the Earth to it, because we are all within a space-time 3D curve.

 

[EternalFantasies]

The atmosphere? You mean that collection of air molecules enveloping the Earth? It's neither space nor spacetime in the sense we're talking about. Atmosphere can be thought of as stress-energy that affects the geometry of spacetime.

So, if it is not space nor spacetime, why do the rules of spacetime apply and as such we are pulled down to the greater mass, the earth, while living within the atmosphere?