How would you like to be treated if...

[FlamingoBlue]

You had an opinion that differed from someone else's on this BB? How do you respond to ridicle, mockery and profanity when you see white and someone else sees beige?


I was recently treated to a very interesting education when my point of view differed from someone else's. I have also seen how people are "flamed" for holding differing opinions. How do you want to be treated??


(The ever curious) blue

 

[CreamyLady]

The rules of civilized discourse would assume that one would state one's position, rationally and quietly; listen courteously to opposing views, and then politely agree to disagree.

This is the board, however, and if one disagrees, one should just learn to duck the flying fruit, letter bombs, and flames.

Proximity suits can be chic.

 

[canadian_lady]

You had an opinion that differed from someone else's on this BB? How do you respond to ridicle, mockery and profanity when you see white and someone else sees beige?

(The ever curious) blue

Free Speech on the Internet...Don't ever let this happen!!!!http://www.thecorporation.com/runninggags/htmlaugh/freespeech/censor.gif

 

[Naked Hunny]

I will listen to anyones opinion even if I disagree but they should give me that same respect!

 

[Sparky Kronkite]

Here's how and why.....

Since I am an open minded, yet stubborn, southern gentleman and a very even tempered former Marine - I don't hit unless I'm hit first. I won't attack unless I'm attacked. Simple or even complex, intelligent disagreements, are not perceived by me to be attacks. Ignorant, foul language spotted, rants - are perceived by me to be attacks and depending upon my mood, the attacker and the subject matter - I might return volley. But it rarely happens.

I think this would be a good model of behavior for most people - but all people are different. My hunch is that most of these "flames" as I reluctantly call them are less that genuine. Most are sent in some sort of twisted, humoresque kind of mind set - because if most of them are real - the sender, the flamer is real in their anger - well, here on the Internet, on this board, on any board - come on - they'd be really sick mother fuckers wouldn't they?

 

[Never]

Hmmm Spunky, like the time I wrote you an e-mail welcoming you to the board and you replied 'fuck you'?

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
We had such a good time my friend,
why didn't you call me?

 

[PHANTOM5875]

Well Blue, I would say that we all should be able to express our opinions on this board as long as you understand that most published or spoken opinions will spawn differing opinions. If there's two people in a room, they will most likely have slightly different opinions on any topic. When you receive a really intense response to your opinion, the respondent is either very insecure in their own mind or you have touched a raw nerve in that individual for some reason only they truly understand. I have learned over my 49 years to "agree to disagree" in a polite manner. If someone feels the need to vent on me or my position on a given topic, I feel honored to be of some service to that individual by letting them getting some of that intensity, anger, whatever off their chest. I very, very seldom take any real exception to comments thrown my way.

Hell,as the old saying goes "Opinions are like ass holes...everyone's got one!"

And, sometimes, the sharing of different opinions can be very stimulating and, yes, educational. I've had my feeble mind changed more than once after being shown a different view point on a given subject of discussion. Just my ramblings.

Phantom

 

[Guest]

I haven't seen you reply to this thread, Mr. Blue. But if you care, I saw you disrespecting other members, and why would I respect someone that doesn't respect others?

-Moon

 

[FlamingoBlue]

Ah, the ever self righteous MS. Moon

Wolf.(See, I didn't forget). Well, I try to follow the Golden Rule. Sometimes I become a little overzealous and when I do, I try to qualify my response. I guess no one is right all the time, except you, of course. That's a smilie face, in case you missed it.

Did ole blue hurt your feelings in the past? Call Thor. I'm sure you could get him to beat me to a pulp. That is, if you can get him off his mountain top, bless his heart.


blue

 

[TN_Vixen]

I respect the fact that someone disagrees with my opinion, hell that's how we learn about things right? Doesn't mean I'll be happy about it, jump for joy, make popcorn and write a little ditty.. but it does mean that I'll listen. Sometimes I respond in semi-anger, sometimes... or most of the time in laissez-faire attitude. But I'm open for disagreement. Agreement all the time does not make one warm and fuzzy.. it worries me. *s*

 

[Always]

I think that what everyone has said here on this thread applies. But we don't exactly apply it, now do we? We try, granted, but we're not perfect! And the people who think they are have the biggest problem.

I try to listen to what people have to say, and I have a policy-don't fuck with others till they fuck with you. It works, most of the time.

 

[Skibum]

I used to think that a snide comment was appropriate for a position I disagreed with, but now I am more apt to simply state my position and ignore any personal attacks on me. I don't mind the flames anymore.

 

[Laurel]

Phantom, baby! Long time no see!

On topic, people are under the illusion that the Net is some fairy land where everyone will agree with them and act civilly no matter what pie you throw in their face. What they don't realize is that here - just like in real life (because we are real people) - we hold strong opinions on certain subjects. Unlike in real life, we don't have to look into the eyes of the person with which we disagree, so it is profoundly easier to lob those insults.

On this BB - like every other unmoderated BB - you cannot just make a controversial statement without expecting a response. People don't flamed simply because they hold contrary opinions. If you make a remark, and I politely disagree while offering my opinions, then you'll probably respond to me civilly. If, however, I tell you you're full of horseshit, you will more than likely flame me.

This isn't a shark tank. If you don't stick your neck out, it won't get chopped off. The vast majority of users post on the board every day for months and months without their names being said in vain. The people who get flamed the most are those who put themselves in that position by picking fights, getting into other poster's faces, and the like. There are many topics I won't discuss here because I know I'll be flamed for my views, and I know it will piss me off.

If you truly enjoy conflict, then by all means go out and pick fights to your hearts content. If you enjoy discussion, then discuss. Whatever you give to this BB, you will get back tenfold. These names you see here are real flesh & blood human types with real flesh & blood feelings. The Golden Rule applies here just as much as anywhere else. Treat others as you would like to be treated.

 

[Guest]

Re: Ah, the ever self righteous MS. Moon

Wolf.(See, I didn't forget). Well, I try to follow the Golden Rule. Sometimes I become a little overzealous and when I do, I try to qualify my response. I guess no one is right all the time, except you, of course. That's a smilie face, in case you missed it.

Did ole blue hurt your feelings in the past? Call Thor. I'm sure you could get him to beat me to a pulp. That is, if you can get him off his mountain top, bless his heart.


blue

So, if I go by the *golden rule* as you state, that means you like to be called names and ridiculed? What an odd person you are.

And thank you for remembering I am not Moonie or Moonbeam.

- Moon

 

[Mortto56]

I think Flaming & Rudeness on the internet in general is caused by the lack of fear.

What I'm trying to say here is that a person is more compelled to attack someone on the net than they would face to face.Just for the obvious reason of knowing they're probably not going to get their asses kicked.

But put them same people into a RL situation,and their probably not going to lip off as much with that person standing right in front of them ready to kick their ass.

I myself try to be civil about my tongue.I try to see both sides of the story.I may not agree,but I'll let them know how I look at the whole picture.

 

[FlamingoBlue]

To Moonwolf....

I don't know anyone who likes to be ridiculed, including me. However,once attacked by a non-loving person, I tend to think about how I feel about their behavior and who its coming from. In most cases I take a pass. Sometimes , I feel the need to respond, and I do, based on the premise " if the shoe fits, wear it".
Insofar as you are concerned, check your feelings about me and see if you are projecting, just a bit.

Oh, and one other thing. I don't think you and I (with due credit to Lasher) would ever have any kind of relationship in RL so why am I talking to you, here? Beats the hell out of me! You and me really don't share much in common but if you have something to say about something I said, say it. Hey, this is America. Isn't freedom great!?



[Edited by FlamingoBlue on 09-25-2000 at 10:45 AM]

 

[Flagg]

Without rudeness and "flames" the net (this BB included) would be an exceedingly dull place to be. Goodness knows we've had our scuffles in the past blue! Have either of us come out any worse in the end?

 

[FlamingoBlue]

Hey,Flagg.....

Fuck you!!! Strong message to follow.


Fondly,

blue

(insert 10 cases of beer and 367 smilie faces here).

 

[Guest]

Rational and mature

 

[Lasher]

Fuck Me...

Without rudeness and "flames" the net (this BB included) would be an exceedingly dull place to be. Goodness knows we've had our scuffles in the past blue! Have either of us come out any worse in the end?

Great, I have to start my day by agreeing with Flagg!!

I don't think you and me would ever have any kind of relationship in RL...

You and me really don't share much in common

C'mon, Flamingo, it's You and I... Don't you have a girl there to check these things for ya???

 

[KillerMuffin]

I fully expect people to treat me as I treat them. Hmmm. That gives me an idea.

*Muff starts randomly licking other members of the board.* Now maybe someone will treat me likewise

Can we be done with all of this now Blue? Please? I'd rather read the interesting things you used to post. If you aren't careful, you might start sounding like an intellectually gifted version of Bobtoad, sans all that whiny false apologeticness.

<--smilie faces, I'm off the hook for saying something rude now. I'd give you some beer, but most guys find O'Douls insulting.

 

[April]

I fully expect people to treat me as I treat them. Hmmm. That gives me an idea.

*Muff starts randomly licking other members of the board.* Now maybe someone will treat me likewise

Right backatcha, Muffin.

 

[FlamingoBlue]

Oh, Lasher, you just said a BAD word!!

Is my GIRL there??? Isn't that what you asked me. My GIRL, as you so SEXISTLY referred to her, is not with me as I am at home and she is at work. My GIRL is a mother and a grandmother and is also Black. am sure she will be happy to hear that you called her "GIRL", you hypocritical, self righteous cock sucker, bless your impure heart. (Did I really say that??
Could I posibly feel that way after all the sensitivity training I have had?? I sure as hell did and if the shoefits, wear it, Lasher).

I can't wait 'till my GIRL contacts some of the BOYS she hangs around with. Lasher, your ass is grass, as they say in the 'hood.

xxxooo,

blue

P.S. If I had called a woman girl, you all would have tarred and feathered me. Let's see what you do with Lasher. Go get 'em Cheyenne!!

 

[dstortion]

"Yeah, Blue ... your grammar sucks!!! Boo, hoo, hoo."
Come on Lasher--if you're going to piss all over this board, at least give the rest of us something tasty to chew on.

 

[Siren]

Blue....come on baby boy....