How would you convert the curious?

[Yacht_racer]

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[Yacht_racer]

What's it like to hold another cock and jerk or suck until you feel that telltale pulse and jump and then get the reward?

I'm smallish, 6" or so.
What to expect if I get myself on front of a throbbing monster?

Do different guys' cum tate different?

 

[Mqoi]

When I meet up with a guy that I'm interested in and he's acting interested as well, I just take it easy and slow gauging his reactions like I would a woman I'm trying to seduce.

Holding another cock and making him cum is exciting and fun.

6" is a nice size and not too big to work with. I can get the whole cock into my mouth easily enough with plenty of room for some tongue action.
On "throbbing monsters" it depends on the guy it's attached to. I'm about 7 and a half or so and if you let me know how much you're comfortable with, I try not to stuff any more of it into you (unless you decide you want more of it)

Yes, the taste varies between guys and also depends on their diet. Guys who don't use tobacco or drink heavily and eat a lot of fruit taste the best. I'm sure there's other things that effect the taste as well. For the record, I don't use tobacco and very rarely drink and to me, mine tastes most like the yolk out of an over easy egg but not quite.

 

[coati]

YR,

One thing to consider: if you are waiting for a guy to "convert" you, you may be in for a very long wait.

Most bi and gay guys I know are very sensitive about so-called straight men who do not want to take responsibility for their desires. That condition offers an easy way to blame the guy who did the "converting" when guilt or shame sets in for the one who was "converted".

 

[yukonnights]

YR,

One thing to consider: if you are waiting for a guy to "convert" you, you may be in for a very long wait.

Most bi and gay guys I know are very sensitive about so-called straight men who do not want to take responsibility for their desires. That condition offers an easy way to blame the guy who did the "converting" when guilt or shame sets in for the one who was "converted".

Good point ^^^

I'll give my take, knowing it won't be of much interest to most curious MWMs. Learn yourself well...research same-sex-attractions on an intellectual level to the extent that you truly believe you are "normal" and not some pervert who needs to hide in the dark of an alley...share all this new found knowledge with your wife, and work through any issues...then hopefully she will give her blessing for you to safely pursue trying to find a male friend who you can explore all your curiosities with.

This is the only way, in my opinion. It sounds like you have a great wife who isn't afraid to experiment. It doesn't seem like huge jump to ask her; "What does a real cock feel like?"...or some such 'ice breaker'.

In other words; you convert yourself ~

 

[Yacht_racer]

Yeah I need to come to terms with whether it's something that will just be in my imagination or real life.

Will need to maintain my integrity with the Mrs.

Cheers

 

[yukonnights]

Yeah I need to come to terms with whether it's something that will just be in my imagination or real life.

Will need to maintain my integrity with the Mrs.

Cheers

I think you've landed in a good place here. Many, many moons past I too was trying to figure out what all of these feelings meant. I had quite a bit of experimentation in my younger years, but thought I had put that all aside...then wham! The interest all came back even stronger. I learned a lot here, so it helps.

You'll figure it out. And I'm glad to see you're already thinking about maintaining integrity with the most important one. IMO, secrets are just another layer of stress on top of all the rest you're dealing with. Best Wishes !

 

[coati]

...research same-sex-attractions on an intellectual level to the extent that you truly believe you are "normal" and not some pervert who needs to hide in the dark of an alley...share all this new found knowledge with your wife, and work through any issues...then hopefully she will give her blessing for you to safely pursue trying to find a male friend who you can explore all your curiosities with.

This is the only way, in my opinion.

To me, this scenario sounds almost as rare as finding a unicorn. None of the married bi men I have met have this sort of arrangement with their wife. I have heard that it exists, but I simply have not encountered it. Most wives in our culture at this time are not open to having actively bisexual husbands, unless they are into swinging themselves. What percentage of us have had spouses in that category?

The married bi men I have met are not looking for men as a prospective spouse. They are seeking safe sex with another man. They don't want to mess up their primary relationship, but they want to be sexually expressive with men, also. Men who must reveal everything to their wives are not suited for this approach to bisexual behavior, and probably do need to either pursue the route you describe or skip bisexual activity altogether.

 

[Mqoi]

My ex was good with my being bi. It satisfied up her appetite for two men at the same time. And mine for men. Win-win for both of us.

My current wife is not good with it at all. Sigh.

 

[yukonnights]

To me, this scenario sounds almost as rare as finding a unicorn. None of the married bi men I have met have this sort of arrangement with their wife. I have heard that it exists, but I simply have not encountered it. Most wives in our culture at this time are not open to having actively bisexual husbands, unless they are into swinging themselves. What percentage of us have had spouses in that category?

The married bi men I have met are not looking for men as a prospective spouse. They are seeking safe sex with another man. They don't want to mess up their primary relationship, but they want to be sexually expressive with men, also. Men who must reveal everything to their wives are not suited for this approach to bisexual behavior, and probably do need to either pursue the route you describe or skip bisexual activity altogether.

I never said it was easy But, I can assure you that it is easier than finding a unicorn. You say the married bi-men are seeking "safe-sex" with another man and don't want to mess up their "marriage". This seems more like searching for that unicorn than what I proposed. How will you find this "safe-sex" guy? Will he have current testing to prove it...and by current I mean within the last few days. You can't just take his word, because in my opinion if he will lie to his wife he most certainly will lie to me.

And talk about messing up a marriage! What happens when the wife does find out? What happens when his wife finds out and you end up a witness at his divorce? No thanks

I don't agree with the assumption that this only applies to guys looking to get married to another guy. We're talking FWB here. Cheating on a wife is an issue that stands on it's own regardless of the circumstances. You mention men who "must reveal everything to their wives...". It's a choice, not a necessity.

So, I think my way is the safe way. It's also the honorable way. But we each do what we will, and I'm not trying to save the world...just sharing thoughts with others.

 

[coati]

I never said it was easy
So, I think my way is the safe way. It's also the honorable way. But we each do what we will, and I'm not trying to save the world...just sharing thoughts with others.

Hey, I'm just sharing my thoughts also, based on decades of bisexual experience. Safe MM sex for me has been mostly mutual masturbation, and very occasional oral sex with a few guys who were the most trustworthy. I never had a bad experience with my dozen or so past male lovers, and no one ever pushed me beyond that safety zone. Part of that record is related to the fact that I met all of those lovers in real life situations, not on line.

I talked with almost all of them. Not one of them felt that their wife would understand or approve of them getting off with another guy. The two who did confess these desires to their wives said it caused a major freak-out and resulted in divorce. One couple I met at a nudist resort who were interested in three-way sex gave me a bad feeling for some reason, so I passed on that. That was the only wife-sanctioned example I have encountered.

You may live in a more progressive world than what I have experienced. The guy who started this thread seemed to want to know what it felt like to be sexual with a guy. It can tell him that it feels great, but I would not recommend waiting for someone to convert or seduce him, unless he is a young Adonis or something. I also indicated that most bi guys only want to be sexual under consensual circumstances, not in chasing down some self-identified "straight" guy who does not want to be upfront with another man about his desires.

The whole "cheating" thing and monogamous marriage as a "property right" is another topic. If you consider yourself to be more honorable than what my experience represents, that's OK with me. I gave up on worrying about the opinions of others regarding my sex life. You may have achieved an ideal situation, for all I know...

 

[Lost_Yonder]

While I have had one bi experience - with a cuck couple with the wife dominating her husband (a very unicorn situation to walk into as I did!) - I have been struggling with it for a few years now, which is something most of us seem to share. There are two issues at play: being bi and having sex with someone other than your wife. They are different issues that require different responses depending on your own relationship with your wife, there is no universal way of handling the latter issue.

As for being bi, exploring those desires, making your fantasies real, I always thought connecting with a bi couple would be most ideal. Somehow having a woman present would make it easier, more "normal", to ease my way into it. The reality is, there aren't that many such couples! I chatted online with one with an extremely hot wife, but I could just never connect with him and so I didn't pursue it.

I then moved to the idea of finding a friend, someone I could hang out with socially, who was bi and open to intimate explorations as well. Always thought it would be fun to hangout with someone, put on some porn, pull out our dicks and see where things go. Because of my own position, politics, and general experiences in life and given where I live, I've yet to make that friend. I live in a very narrow world, making it very difficult.

That left me with craigslist and grinder - both of which leave a very bad taste in the mouth (no pun intended!). They are predominately guys who are just into random hook-ups all day long - some are into that, I'm not. But I am finding myself more and more moving in that direction as I really want to pursue more fully my bi desires.

In short, it actually isn't the easiest thing to fulfill! Lots depends on where you reside and ultimately what you are comfortable with - random hook up, friend with benefits, a couple, whatever. Another challenge for me is geography and schedule - where i live is a large city very spread out, meeting people near by isn't always so easy. As well, when I can actually meet them? work, home time, don't make it easy, particularly in the past year, my time has become more limited.

But none of this deals with the issue of your spouse. For better or worse, I have a long history of having affairs, so don't see that connecting with a guy is any different than my previous sexual pursuits. For some time my wife lived and traveled abroad extensively, then I lived abroad, so I had plenty of time to fulfill my desires. Now we are both homebodies, making it more difficult.

My sense is that actually I don't think she would be that upset with me being bi - more so with me cheating obviously. My life is such though that I don't want to share it with her! I want and need a part of my life to myself. I've created a secret world that I operate in, where I can be free from the demands and expectations of married life (we don't have children), where I am not bound by her interests and desires, where I don't have to listen to her tell me what to do, what is acceptable, etc.

Here, Lit, is part of that secret world for me. At first it was through writing erotica than I discovered these boards and made some amazing friends. They left, one tragically passed away, and I too faded away, but coming back now, with my bi desires that I did not have in my previous incarnation on here, has been extremely comforting, fun, and enticing! It may be that my bi desires go no where beyond the interactions on here, I don't know. What is important for me though is not to compromise my desire. I'm not going to go to some guys house to line up with others just to have my cock sucked. I am patient, I can wait for that "friend". I'm actively looking for him, I'm not just sitting waiting for him to show up, but I know what I am seeking now, I don't have to jump at the first cock sucker that comes along!

Sorry, I'm rambling now beyond the issues - main thing is, figure out what you are seeking, reflect on the implications of pursuing it are, and seek it out. Only you know your wife and the nature of your relationship, figuring out how much to tell her or not you have to play with. Let some things slip, see how she responds. Give her the same "freedom" to pursue her desires as you are giving yourself though!

I would like to say that it will happen when you are ready, but not necessarily - you have to make it happen...

 

[yukonnights]

Hey, I'm just sharing my thoughts also, based on decades of bisexual experience. Safe MM sex for me has been mostly mutual masturbation, and very occasional oral sex with a few guys who were the most trustworthy. I never had a bad experience with my dozen or so past male lovers, and no one ever pushed me beyond that safety zone. Part of that record is related to the fact that I met all of those lovers in real life situations, not on line.

I talked with almost all of them. Not one of them felt that their wife would understand or approve of them getting off with another guy. The two who did confess these desires to their wives said it caused a major freak-out and resulted in divorce. One couple I met at a nudist resort who were interested in three-way sex gave me a bad feeling for some reason, so I passed on that. That was the only wife-sanctioned example I have encountered.

You may live in a more progressive world than what I have experienced. The guy who started this thread seemed to want to know what it felt like to be sexual with a guy. It can tell him that it feels great, but I would not recommend waiting for someone to convert or seduce him, unless he is a young Adonis or something. I also indicated that most bi guys only want to be sexual under consensual circumstances, not in chasing down some self-identified "straight" guy who does not want to be upfront with another man about his desires.

The whole "cheating" thing and monogamous marriage as a "property right" is another topic. If you consider yourself to be more honorable than what my experience represents, that's OK with me. I gave up on worrying about the opinions of others regarding my sex life. You may have achieved an ideal situation, for all I know...

coati, The bold parts up above we can certainly agree on. I fear I may have come across too strong in trying to make my point about cheating. In general, I was trying to point out to the OP, and others in a similar situation, that there are serious repercussions in letting fantasy overtake reality. I stand by what I said, but realize that everyone has a unique life situation...I fear that may have been read as a personal attack and just wanted to say that it's not. I enjoy reading your input and respect your opinion.

 

[coati]

coati, The bold parts up above we can certainly agree on. I fear I may have come across too strong in trying to make my point about cheating. In general, I was trying to point out to the OP, and others in a similar situation, that there are serious repercussions in letting fantasy overtake reality. I stand by what I said, but realize that everyone has a unique life situation...I fear that may have been read as a personal attack and just wanted to say that it's not. I enjoy reading your input and respect your opinion.

I appreciate your views and your self-monitoring skills. It appears we just happen to have a different set of experiences in real life.

Thanks for your note.

 

[yukonnights]

I appreciate your views and your self-monitoring skills. It appears we just happen to have a different set of experiences in real life.

Thanks for your note.

One thing we have in common is that you found your lovers through real life situations. I fully concur with that as being the most fulfilling way to go. While this may be difficult for some to pull off for a number of reasons, I'd suggest they might consider modifying the straight forward online hook-up into an online search for a true friend/buddy/FWB who has similar interests. Take the time to build some common ground friendship wise, and also get a gut feel for integrity/safety, etc. (and yes, I know some really want the dark of night/hood over the face glory-hole anonymity...but I thought someone may benefit from the suggestion.)

In this scenario, instead of one seducing the other, or experiencing an awkward/unfulfilling anonymous experience, it either becomes a mutual attraction and desire to go further....or not. From experience I can say sucking on the wrong cock, and later regretting it... sort'a sucks (in a bad way).