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Beck31

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Tell someone nicely they are full of shit. A soon to be ex friend swears all women want alpha males. I call bullshit. I am usually good at telling people they are full of crap but this jackass as been a friend since I was a kid. Any advice would help.
 
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Full of Crap

This is what you do Beck. Grab a beer with your friend. Then when the subject comes up calmly inform this guy you disagree with his theory and explain why you think he is full of it. It can't get any simplier than that. Leave it at that and if he continues with his crap then walk away.
 
You're going to trash a long-time friendship because you disagree on the kind of man most likely to attract a woman?

Next time he brings it up: laugh and add.. "that's not true. half of 'em want alpha females"
 
That is a total load of BS. I know several women who much prefer a man they can talk to and cuddle with, not an alpha type sports jock who can only relate to beer, cars, and other alphas. Alphas are a dying breed, in my opinion. We need a man who will help with the kids and household tasks, as well as being a friend and part of our support network.

Tell your friend to go and find a cave to live in :)
 
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Thank you Marci. That is the best answer I have recieved thus far.
Guess it is time to cowboy up and just give my bro a piece of my mind.
Sometimes I worry about hurting my friends's feelings but not this time.
 
Thank you Marci. That is the best answer I have recieved thus far.
Guess it is time to cowboy up and just give my bro a piece of my mind.
Sometimes I worry about hurting my friends's feelings but not this time.

You might find these useful:

http://manboobz.com/2012/08/22/yo-d...a-myth-according-to-actual-experts-on-wolves/
http://evolvify.com/alpha-male-narrative-myth/

"There is no good reason to believe that humans evolved in hierarchical tribes between tens of thousands to two million years ago. To the contrary, there is a mountain of evidence showing that humans evolved in largely egalitarian bands that punished attempts of dominance with social sanctioning, banishment, and death (Boehm 1999). Yes, that’s basically saying that alpha males got offed by their social group — not exactly a benefit to reproduction. It appears that human ancestors likely lived in dominance hierarchies sometime in our distant past, but probably prior to the evolution of the hominin (human) line (Boehm 1999; Debreuil 2010). These works indicate that whatever “alpha” dominance tendencies evolved in our remote ancestors has most likely been evolving in the opposite direction for a couple million years."

"The concept of the alpha wolf is well ingrained in the popular wolf literature at least partly because of my book “The Wolf: Ecology and Behavior of an Endangered Species,” ... currently still in print, despite my numerous pleas to the publisher to stop publishing it. Although most of the book’s info is still accurate, much is outdated. We have learned more about wolves in the last 40 years then in all of previous history. One of the outdated pieces of information is the concept of the alpha wolf. “Alpha” implies competing with others and becoming top dog by winning a contest or battle. However, most wolves who lead packs achieved their position simply by mating and producing pups, which then became their pack. In other words they are merely breeders, or parents, and that’s all we call them today, the “breeding male,” “breeding female,” or “male parent,” “female parent,” or the “adult male” or “adult female.” In the rare packs that include more than one breeding animal, the “dominant breeder” can be called that, and any breeding daughter can be called a “subordinate breeder.” "

So, if you want to be an "alpha wolf": settle down and have kids!
 
If he is a good friend it should be even easier to call bullshit. MY best friend and I are always the first to smack each other into reality and we take it because we respect each other.

He's totally wrong. In fact many women I know dislike alpha's because in general they are arrogant and full of themselves and are self centered. Not great partner material.
 
Thank you Marci. That is the best answer I have recieved thus far.
Guess it is time to cowboy up and just give my bro a piece of my mind.
Sometimes I worry about hurting my friends's feelings but not this time.

Just tell him to keep thinking like he is, and that way you'll have more women for you :) That's what I told my son when he and his friends were talking about gays - "Think about it, that only means more girls for you." Of course I didn't mention to him that lesbians sort of average it all out. :D
 
Keep the friendship mate. He needs you. Who knows, you may help him grow up some day.
 
That is a total load of BS. I know several women who much prefer a man they can talk to and cuddle with, not an alpha type sports jock who can only relate to beer, cars, and other alphas. Alphas are a dying breed, in my opinion. We need a man who will help with the kids and household tasks, as well as being a friend and part of our support network.

Tell your friend to go and find a cave to live in :)

In fact many women I know dislike alpha's because in general they are arrogant and full of themselves and are self centered. Not great partner material.

Not all alpha types are arrogant, egotistical, narcissistic jerks. I know people who are definitely take charge type personalities, but they aren't shitheads about it. They have a quiet confidence that just inspires people. And though they are in charge, they are also willing to get down in the trenches with their troops, so to speak. IMO, that's the mark of true leadership.

To suggest that all alpha personalities are assholes is as much of a gross over-generalization as it is to suggest that all women seek such characteristics in their partners. Just sayin.
 
I kinda get sick of people assuming that alpha males are arrogant, selfish, insensitive, irresponsible, megalomaniacal asshats, who only think of don't want any connections, are dumb arses and fucks anything in a skirt.

Many, if not most, alpha males are take-charge, confident, intelligent, self-assured leaders, who are keenly aware of their responsibilities and fulfills them. They are duty-oriented and hold fast to their code of honour.

Many alpha males also want intimacy, sensuality, and to cuddle. They also want to have challenging conversations, and in the right setting, are also willing not to be in charge in proper circumstances.

Just my opinion and experience in working with many alpha males, and having an all who is one. He is most definitely an alpha, but he is far from being an insensitive jerk. Just the opposite, in fact.


ETA: I see Bailahas beaten me to it. Alpha pun intended ;) :rose:
 
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As for the OP, I like the approach suggested by Blaze. If/when the subject comes up, you can say something along the lines of "Dude, you've got a lot to learn", point him towards some resources, and leave it at that. It's up to him whether or not he wants to broaden his horizons, and become more open-minded. Unless he's being a total douche to other people, I just don't see the purpose in getting your BVD's in a twist.
 
Why do you feel compelled to tell your friend he's full of shit? If he wants to be delusional that's his problem.
 
Just tell him that obsessing about alpha males is so beta. That'll shut his ass up.
 
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