How To Get To Heaven When You Die

DO YOU PLACE YOUR FAITH IN CHRIST ALONE FOR SALVATION BELIEVING HE DIED N ROSE AGAIN?

  • YES

    Votes: 8 9.2%
  • NO

    Votes: 44 50.6%
  • I ALREADY PLACED MY FAITH IN CHRIST AND HIS SACRIFICE

    Votes: 22 25.3%
  • OTHER

    Votes: 13 14.9%

  • Total voters
    87
I went back to the church and somehow I didn't know that I could sing, but I became the song leader, Jr. high teacher, Worship Leader of the Praise band, lot's of things. This church prints of millions of gospel tracts (little booklets that tell people how to get to heaven) I feel a burden in my heart to pass out tracts and tell as many people about Jesus Christ as I can. When I began doing so, I would have horrific experiences that I cannot fully explain. Many times Demonic forces would attack me all night. I remember one time I felt a very strong spiritual presence in my room. It was so strong that I was tormented by it. I felt these creatures biting me in the stomach. Then they showed themselves to me. I saw 3 animals that looked kind of like far-rats that were showing their teeth to me. Then I saw three that looked like men, but their faces were different. Then I saw a giant one that was about 15 feet tall. He was so large that his head took up my entire field of vision when he put his face in mine. I saw his mouth move and it was so big he could have bitten my head off. I felt more and more enter my room and the pressure got stronger and stronger. I told the Lord that I was at the end of my rope and if He didn't help me that I was going to lose control and start screaming. Right as I got to the end of my rope, I asked for a legion ed of angels. Right then, I felt fighting going on all around me and a few minutes later I felt the air clear and I could sleep. God sent me the angels to fight in my behalf. The Lord is good and I can't bless Him enough for saving me that day.

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I believe once that you said you were a Christian? Tell me if I got that wrong. So you are saying this isn't demons from the spiritual realm, but energy from the physical realm that is causing these injuries?

Yes and no. These beings are MADE of energy and the realm they are from is what we would call the Spiritual realm. They feed on negative energy and delight on causing suffering, and thus, the name we have given them, to accurately describe them, is "Demons." Just like "Humanity" is the name we have given to beings like ourselves. And yes, I am a Christian, and I align with the forces of light, harmony, love and joy to oppose and fight against these beings and what they represent.
 
Yes and no. These beings are MADE of energy and the realm they are from is what we would call the Spiritual realm. They feed on negative energy and delight on causing suffering, and thus, the name we have given them, to accurately describe them, is "Demons." Just like "Humanity" is the name we have given to beings like ourselves. And yes, I am a Christian, and I align with the forces of light, harmony, love and joy to oppose and fight against these beings and what they represent.

The Bible calls them Evil Spirits & Demons. They may very well be pure energy in some way, however, they are also Spiritual beings. They can manifest in the Physical. They work for satan. At least some of them are Fallen Angels. It is also thought that some of them are half breeds between Angels and Men mentioned as the "Sons of God" in Genesis. I believe that the half breed ones are the Demons.
They respond negatively to the name and power of Christ because they are enemies of God. I actually had one touch me in my sleep last night because I mentioned being touched by them in my Testimony. I had one attack me that was at least 15 feet high years ago. It was a warrior. There are different classifications of Angels and demons.

When we die, we enter this realm. Our Spirit, which is contained right now by our body, will be injected into that world. If we do NOT have Christ, the demons immediately take our soul to hell. If we DO have Christ, the Angels immediately take our soul/spirit to heaven. There is no in between.
 
Yes and no. These beings are MADE of energy and the realm they are from is what we would call the Spiritual realm. They feed on negative energy and delight on causing suffering, and thus, the name we have given them, to accurately describe them, is "Demons." Just like "Humanity" is the name we have given to beings like ourselves. And yes, I am a Christian, and I align with the forces of light, harmony, love and joy to oppose and fight against these beings and what they represent.

Have you physically encountered them as well?
 
In a different line, unrelated:

"Gravitational waves are a measure of strain in space, an effect of the motion of large masses that stretches the fabric of space-time—a way of viewing space and time as a single, interweaved continuum."
https://phys.org/news/2016-02-magical-space-time-ripple-wasnt-believed.html

I can understand the term "ripples in space",
but wtf do they mean by the highlighted part?

I'll try and not be too longwinded.

"the fabric of space-time—a way of viewing space and time as a single, interweaved continuum."


You understand gravity in the sense of the way smaller mass is attracted to a larger mass. IE the Moon circles the Earth. The Earth circles the sun. That is due to Gravity.

Lets look at this Gravity in a small scale. Get a thick garbage bag. Now two balls. One ball should be large, the other about 2/3 smaller. Lay the garbage bag on a table, place the larger ball in the centre, the smaller ball half way between the edge and the centre.
Now you will need a helper. Both you and the helper grab each end of the garbage bag, and pick it up. Trying to keep the bag as flat and taught as possible. If you do it correctly the ball in the centre stays put, the smaller ball rolls towards it. ( incorrect and one or both balls fall off..).

You have just witnessed the "fabric of space" being distorted by a large mass ( the larger ball in the centre) and the attraction of a smaller mass to a larger. Or in other words Gravity. Massive objects distort spacetime just as the large ball in the centre of the garbage bag distorted ( or kept the garbage bag from staying flat when lifted) the bag surface as it was lifted. The smaller ball too distorted the garbage bag surface too, but since it's mass is not as great as the ball in the centre, gravity pulled it towards the larger centre ball.

Now when you lifted the garbage bag, that takes time. It takes time for the balls to move, to distort the surface. To move towards each other.

The garbage bag represents the fabric that is called spacetime. Since Gravitational waves ripple the garbage bag as they ( like waves on the waters surface) pass through. However the Gravitational waves only travel at the speed of light, and they ripple the fabric as they move, however the fabric of space is billions of light years across. So you can sit and watch the ripples come towards you ( Special Relativity) if you could see faster than light.

What I have described above is what they mean by the bold phrase.
 
Yes and no. These beings are MADE of energy and the realm they are from is what we would call the Spiritual realm. They feed on negative energy and delight on causing suffering, and thus, the name we have given them, to accurately describe them, is "Demons." Just like "Humanity" is the name we have given to beings like ourselves. And yes, I am a Christian, and I align with the forces of light, harmony, love and joy to oppose and fight against these beings and what they represent.

I just thought of something. If these things were pure energy, then they would be like electricity and would power things as electricity does. I doubt that is the case. I would rather thing that what they are is a form of Spiritual energy. The Physical and the Spirit are two separate realms, yet they do interact with each other to a small degree.
 
Yesterday I was visited, in the bath, by a pink unicorn named Derick. He told me I'd get to the chocolate factory in the sky if I always remember to wear my socks inside out and never have sex with a cabbage on a Thursday.
 
I had dropped the end of my towel in the bath, but Derick made it dry, and then breathed life back into a spider which had drowned when I splashed the floor. The spider then made a web depicting three hippos eating bananas, to teach me that eating bananas on a Saturday night is sacred.
 
Although it's possible i just have an overactive imagination...
 
I went back to the church and somehow I didn't know that I could sing, but I became the song leader, Jr. high teacher, Worship Leader of the Praise band, lot's of things. This church prints of millions of gospel tracts (little booklets that tell people how to get to heaven) I feel a burden in my heart to pass out tracts and tell as many people about Jesus Christ as I can. When I began doing so, I would have horrific experiences that I cannot fully explain. Many times Demonic forces would attack me all night. I remember one time I felt a very strong spiritual presence in my room. It was so strong that I was tormented by it. I felt these creatures biting me in the stomach. Then they showed themselves to me. I saw 3 animals that looked kind of like far-rats that were showing their teeth to me. Then I saw three that looked like men, but their faces were different. Then I saw a giant one that was about 15 feet tall. He was so large that his head took up my entire field of vision when he put his face in mine. I saw his mouth move and it was so big he could have bitten my head off. I felt more and more enter my room and the pressure got stronger and stronger. I told the Lord that I was at the end of my rope and if He didn't help me that I was going to lose control and start screaming. Right as I got to the end of my rope, I asked for a legion ed of angels. Right then, I felt fighting going on all around me and a few minutes later I felt the air clear and I could sleep. God sent me the angels to fight in my behalf. The Lord is good and I can't bless Him enough for saving me that day.

MORE LATER--->>>

I found an article that I think really articulates what I believe about Satan and demons better than I could. By sharing this I am not insinuating that you are obsessed or over-focused on Satan and demons. We have had this thread going many months and this is the first time this subject has been discussed to this extent, and it was because I asked you to share your story. I appreciate the sharing and I do not diminish the experience. Satan is one nasty dude.

I do have one area that I don't agree with you xfrodo and maybe we can discuss it. If I understood you correctly you believe that when you study the gospels and share the message that evil (Satan and demons) attack you more. I believe that by studying the scriptures and sharing it's message of love that evil will flee.

JD Grear is an excellent speaker. I had the opportunity to hear him once. This explains what I believe.

https://jdgreear.com/blog/how-to-engage-the-demonic/
 
I found an article that I think really articulates what I believe about Satan and demons better than I could. By sharing this I am not insinuating that you are obsessed or over-focused on Satan and demons. We have had this thread going many months and this is the first time this subject has been discussed to this extent, and it was because I asked you to share your story. I appreciate the sharing and I do not diminish the experience. Satan is one nasty dude.

I do have one area that I don't agree with you xfrodo and maybe we can discuss it. If I understood you correctly you believe that when you study the gospels and share the message that evil (Satan and demons) attack you more. I believe that by studying the scriptures and sharing it's message of love that evil will flee.

JD Grear is an excellent speaker. I had the opportunity to hear him once. This explains what I believe.

https://jdgreear.com/blog/how-to-engage-the-demonic/

Well, that article is all fine and dandy, but I have actually engaged them.

They didn't attack me openly until I began seeking God again. After God spoke to me they attacked me even more. They are at war with God and His Saints. Logically, it shouldn't surprise you that they will tend to attack those who are effective for God more than those who aren't. They want to stop God's agenda. Look at Israel and the persecution that they have gone through. Do you think that is a coincidence?

When it first happened, yes I was horrified and thought about it all of the time. They attacked me mercilessly, even when I was in Church. I tried everything, read books, ect. but then I went to a website online and met a Deliverance Minister who had written 20 books on the subject and worked with Bob Larson. I went to his meeting that lasted more than 12 hours and watched him work. I learned so much from it. I began untilizing these things and they slowly began to go away. Then I met another man who called me on the phone and dealt with them as well. He helped a lot. No matter how much I got rid of them, more keep coming, but the attacks are much less severe and frequent since working with those men. The demons get assigned to people from satan to buffet them. There are also many people who are completely controlled by demons.

I don't really think about them anymore much unless they attack me. Usually, it's in my sleep, but not always. When they attack me in my sleep, many times I can see the room and become aware of my surroundings from outside of my body.
 
Some of what you describe sounds like sleep paralysis. Without experiencing exactly what you have, I cant say for sure, but I have had experiences of sleep paralysis when I was younger, and it is truly horrifying- it really does feel like demons are torturing you as you lie there.
 
Well, that article is all fine and dandy, but I have actually engaged them.

They didn't attack me openly until I began seeking God again. After God spoke to me they attacked me even more. They are at war with God and His Saints. Logically, it shouldn't surprise you that they will tend to attack those who are effective for God more than those who aren't. They want to stop God's agenda. Look at Israel and the persecution that they have gone through. Do you think that is a coincidence?

When it first happened, yes I was horrified and thought about it all of the time. They attacked me mercilessly, even when I was in Church. I tried everything, read books, ect. but then I went to a website online and met a Deliverance Minister who had written 20 books on the subject and worked with Bob Larson. I went to his meeting that lasted more than 12 hours and watched him work. I learned so much from it. I began untilizing these things and they slowly began to go away. Then I met another man who called me on the phone and dealt with them as well. He helped a lot. No matter how much I got rid of them, more keep coming, but the attacks are much less severe and frequent since working with those men. The demons get assigned to people from satan to buffet them. There are also many people who are completely controlled by demons.

I don't really think about them anymore much unless they attack me. Usually, it's in my sleep, but not always. When they attack me in my sleep, many times I can see the room and become aware of my surroundings from outside of my body.

I like what PaxNurgle says about aligning himself with the light. If a person lives by the light(God), there will not be any darkness(Satan). John 8:12 New International Version (NIV) When Jesus spoke again to the people, he said, “I am the light of the world. Whoever follows me will never walk in darkness, but will have the light of life.”

Beautiful verses about the light. https://dailyverses.net/light Maybe you have some verses that you could share?

We have both had very different journeys haven't we, my friend. The good thing is that we know that in the end.....God wins.:rose:

I don't know if you listen to a lot of Christian music or not but I have been thinking about a group that I used to listen to when I first became a Christian since this topic came up. My boyfriend, now husband, and I use to take his little Chevy Chevette to our home towns on some weekends. It played cassette tapes of course. Fun to sing. Memories:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KJb6PY_U8S8

Hope you will finish your story..
 
I’ve never been visited by angels or demons. Guess I’m just lucky.
 
Some of what you describe sounds like sleep paralysis. Without experiencing exactly what you have, I cant say for sure, but I have had experiences of sleep paralysis when I was younger, and it is truly horrifying- it really does feel like demons are torturing you as you lie there.

The reason it feels like demons are torturing you is because they ARE. Your soul is awake, but your body is paralyzed because your brain secrets a chemical to keep you from hurting yourself. Demons take advantage of that helpless state. It's really happening. I remember times when I had the Bible on in the background and when they were torturing me, I could hear the audio Bible at the same time. I knew it was real when that happened. Many other things have also happened as well to confirm to me that it is real, not just a dream.
 
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