How To Get To Heaven When You Die

DO YOU PLACE YOUR FAITH IN CHRIST ALONE FOR SALVATION BELIEVING HE DIED N ROSE AGAIN?

  • YES

    Votes: 8 9.2%
  • NO

    Votes: 44 50.6%
  • I ALREADY PLACED MY FAITH IN CHRIST AND HIS SACRIFICE

    Votes: 22 25.3%
  • OTHER

    Votes: 13 14.9%

  • Total voters
    87
I am still interested if you want to finish.

The daughter was literally pulled off her bed by these demons.

On top of losing my fiance', staying in this hell house, all of my friends turned on me all within a couple of weeks. My family was never there for me, they didn't really care. They pretty much abused me by neglecting me. We still don't really see each other anymore much. It was the most stressful time in my life. I stopped going to church and I went back to the bars, this time alone. I made new friends but could not get close to them. My life stunk, I hated my life and one day I came to point where I couldn't take it anymore. There was a shotgun in the next room and I told God that if anything else happened to me that I was going to stick the gun in my mouth and pull the trigger. I could feel God's presence standing over me, looking at me. Thank God nothing else happened to me. Somehow, I knew that things were going to get better now. Things slowly began to get better.

I met my wife. This is where the story begins to get weird, yet all I can say it that I am telling you the 100% truth from my heart.

I began to rent ufo videos out of curiousity. I wanted to study the cases and see what they were all about. I watched one after the other, night after night for about a week. I was laying in bed up stairs in the attick where no one could come up there without making a rucus. My wife was facing the wall and I was sleeping on the outside of the bed. I entered into a "concious sleep" I was aware, yet I was sleeping. It was all black, something grabbed my arms and squeezed them. I recognized this as a demonic attack and resisted, I felt pain in my wrists. When I woke up, my arms were tired as if I had truly been struggling. I woke up and told my wife. The next day, I had bruises on my wrists. The only logical explaination is that it was a spritual injury. I tell you that there is NO WAY in the world that any person did this. I could not have done this to my self.

TO BE CONTINUED--->
 
If you have truely experienced or witnessed true demonic oppression, then you can at least understand what the pure essense of evil is- beings that thrive by inflicting the most distress, pain, and suffering that they can. Understanding Jesus Christ in opposition to that- it is understandable why anyone (myself included) would want to see such beings destroyed or at least, to be safe from their influence and from their horrible presense. I can sympathise.

I wish you luck on your spiritual journey. Although I have stated my opinion that you still have a way to go, I hope you get there and keep on the right path.
 
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So anybody who knows me knows that I love a mystery. I don't get to watch TV much but when I do I usually watch the Investigative Discovery Channel or shows like dateline and 20/20. So much so that my husband jokes that I am trying to figure out a way to commit his perfect murder:eek: Keeps him on his toes. LOL

J. Warner Wallace is a cold case homicide detective that has been on shows like dateline talking about specific murders. He is also an atheist that studied the four gospels of Jesus like they were a cold case. He became a Christian. I always get questions about the gospels (The 4 books that show the teachings and revelations of Jesus). How do I deal with the contradictions between the eyewitnesses? I saw a video and after much searching finally found it again. How a homicide detective would look at it. So True.

https://coldcasechristianity.com/videos/do-the-gospels-contradict-one-another-video/

I see that there is a delivery service that now delivers a murder mystery in a box. Every month you get a box that contains evidence and all you need to be able to solve a murder mystery. If I had money to burn that would be cool.

But since I don't I go now to do chores.

I'm Kathy and this is 20/20. :D
 
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So anybody who knows me knows that I love a mystery. I don't get to watch TV much but when I do I usually watch the Investigative Discovery Channel or shows like dateline and 20/20. So much so that my husband jokes that I am trying to figure out a way to commit his perfect murder:eek: Keeps him on his toes. LOL

J. Warner Wallace is a cold case homicide detective that has been on shows like dateline talking about specific murders. He is also an atheist that studied the four gospels of Jesus like they were a cold case. He became a Christian. I always get questions about the gospels (The 4 books that show the teachings and revelations of Jesus). How do I deal with the contradictions between the eyewitnesses? I saw a video and after much searching finally found it again. How a homicide detective would look at it. So True.

https://coldcasechristianity.com/videos/do-the-gospels-contradict-one-another-video/

I see that there is a delivery service that now delivers a murder mystery in a box. Every month you get a box that contains evidence and all you need to be able to solve a murder mystery. If I had money to burn that would be cool.

But since I don't I go now to do chores.

I'm Kathy and this is 20/20. :D

There are no contradictions between the eyewitnesses, just different points of view.

Also, I was just wondering if you had a chance to read my story so far. I will post more soon...
 
There are no contradictions between the eyewitnesses, just different points of view.

Also, I was just wondering if you had a chance to read my story so far. I will post more soon...

I have had a chance. I at one point asked you if you wanted to finish it. I hope you do. I am sorry to hear you have gone through all that. I honestly don't think about demons probably as much as I should. I used to get scared just watching Scooby Doo. I think it would paralyze me if I focused on it.

The only time I have ever had a thought about demons pop into my head was when I worked the night shift at the hospital. A women had just drowned her two children in the bathtub. She was out of control and had to be restrained. When a patient is restrained it was the policy that someone had to stay with them. So I stayed the whole night with her. That is the first and only time I have really had an experience that made me wonder if it was demons.

Have you ever read Frank Peretti's books? I tried to read one of them but I just got frustrated. He had the characters interacting but also what the demons and angels were doing. They were really popular around the time I became a Christian. (This Present Darkness, Piercing the Darkness were a couple of the books)
 
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I have had a chance. I at one point asked you if you wanted to finish it. I hope you do. I am sorry to hear you have gone through all that. I honestly don't think about demons probably as much as I should. I used to get scared just watching Scooby Doo. I think it would paralyze me if I focused on it.

The only time I have ever had a thought about demons pop into my head was when I worked the night shift at the hospital. A women had just drowned her two children in the bathtub. She was out of control and had to be restrained. When a patient is restrained it was the policy that someone had to stay with them. So I stayed the whole night with her. That is the first and only time I have really had an experience that made me wonder if it was demons.

Have you ever read Frank Peretti's books? I tried to read one of them but I just got frustrated. He had the characters interacting but also what the demons and angels were doing. They were really popular around the time I became a Christian. (This Present Darkness, Piercing the Darkness were a couple of the books)

I actually know a LOT about demons. I will explain more when my story gets to that point.

More of my story:

Anyway, because of what happened, I stopped watching ufo movies and began to seek God again. I started listening to Christian radio where any nut can come on there and preach if they claim to be in the name of Christ. Sometimes, when I lay in bed, I can feel evil spirits when they come into the room. I usually look at them and say "The Lord rebuke you" and they leave. There have been hundreds of times throughout my life that I have been tormented by demons when I slept. They have done things of a sexual nature to me, grabbing me and actually hurting me in the males most sensitive area.

I began to study Systematic Theology by Dr. Lewis Sperry Chafer. These are doctorite level theology books. The first book was on angelology, which was very deep and caused alot of "spritual energy" when I would read it. I could feel a spritual struggle that I could not understand, except that I refused to stop reading.

I began to look for a church to raise my family in, my kids were 1 and 2. I wanted to go to a church with more modern music, an upbeat church. I visited a few and had my mind made up which one I liked. I deceided to visit one other church that I had never been to before, a baptist church. It was an old fashioned church, strict, just like I was raised in, totally the opposite of what I wanted. As soon as I met the pastor, we began to argue. It was clear to me that we were completly opposite and that I didn't like him.

I filled out the visitors card and they came over to visit me. The date was September 26, 2001. September 11, 2001 had just happened. My 30th birthday was September 9, 2001.

A guy named Larry came over to visit me. I thought "they can visit me, but I am not going back there ever again"

Larry said "Why don't you come back to our church"

I said "I don't think that this is the church for me, how do I know that this is the church that God wants me to go to"

"Well have you asked Him?" Larry asked

"No"

"Why don't you ask Him, pray and ask Him and I will be going" He said

So I prayed half heartedly to God. "Dear Lord if this is the church that You want me to go to please let me know....in Jesus name amen"

That night, I was laying in bed thinking about weather I was going to go back there or not and I had decided that I would NOT go back to that church. At that very moment, I felt God's Holy Spirit move into the room. I could not see Him with my eyes, only in my mind. I somehow knew who He was without Him telling me. He came and hovered over my chest and I felt Him look me in my eyes for a few seconds. "I want you to go back to that church" God said into my mind with a meek, humble and kind way. There was no sound. This was surreal. I said "Ok Lord, if that's what you want me to do then I will do it, If that is what you want me to do then I will go back there." Then I began to weep. I couldn't look at Him, I looked away and told Him that I was sorry for my sins and that I was going to serve Him from now on. He heard me out and then I felt Him move out of the room slowly as He came in. The next morning as I was waking up, I heard a voice "I'm gonna get your kids" it was the devil. A few months later I was fighting spritual warfare which I will not get into now.


MORE LATER---->
 
I actually know a LOT about demons. I will explain more when my story gets to that point.

More of my story

(Edited for space. See Previous Post)

It sounds like you are very sensitive to the spiritual realm. Have you given any thought to why they seem to attack you, especially after you recommitted your life to Christ? Christ overcame the dark realm that is why you could say "The Lord rebuke you" and they leave.

This is not a topic that I have done much study on. I have always seen the Satanic (dark) spiritual realm more like temptation to do the things we shouldn't. Like Satan tempted Jesus in the desert. Also demons doing things to discourage us. So you think that the spiritual realm can be linked to the physical realm? Spirits can touch you?

I have to admit I don't dwell on demons, but I have not had the experiences you have. Interesting topic to discuss.
 
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There are certain entities that exist in our physical realm only as stray, yet sentinent energy fields.

From time to time, if the energy field is strong enough, these things can attain physical mass, or at least interact with physical matter, although on a transient and/or temporary basis. Like the equasion, Energy = mass times C squared. They consist of an electrostatic energy field. I believe that is how some of these energy beings are able to interact with the physical world.

And yes, some of these beings- MANY of them in fact, seem to thrive on inflicting pain and suffering on physical living beings. Whether by affecting their mental state, sometimes even subduing and manipulating their thought process ("Possession") or causing direct physical harm to them (Scratchings, unexplained bruising or injury, causing unexplained illness, etc). If you watch any of the various TV shows about the paranormal, you will see evidence for things like this.
 
There are certain entities that exist in our physical realm only as stray, yet sentinent energy fields.

From time to time, if the energy field is strong enough, these things can attain physical mass, or at least interact with physical matter, although on a transient and/or temporary basis. Like the equasion, Energy = mass times C squared. They consist of an electrostatic energy field. I believe that is how some of these energy beings are able to interact with the physical world.

And yes, some of these beings- MANY of them in fact, seem to thrive on inflicting pain and suffering on physical living beings. Whether by affecting their mental state, sometimes even subduing and manipulating their thought process ("Possession") or causing direct physical harm to them (Scratchings, unexplained bruising or injury, causing unexplained illness, etc). If you watch any of the various TV shows about the paranormal, you will see evidence for things like this.

Example of an electrostatic field. Walk across a nylon carpet in wool socks in low humidity, then touch a metal object. That shock you feel, is the equalisation of the now built up "electrostatic" field.

Energy equals mass times the speed of light squared." On the most basic level, the equation says that energy and mass (matter) are interchangeable; they are different forms of the same thing.

Even though Einstein was a religious man, don't bring him into this shit show for a religious thread...
 
There are certain entities that exist in our physical realm only as stray, yet sentinent energy fields.

From time to time, if the energy field is strong enough, these things can attain physical mass, or at least interact with physical matter, although on a transient and/or temporary basis. Like the equasion, Energy = mass times C squared. They consist of an electrostatic energy field. I believe that is how some of these energy beings are able to interact with the physical world.

And yes, some of these beings- MANY of them in fact, seem to thrive on inflicting pain and suffering on physical living beings. Whether by affecting their mental state, sometimes even subduing and manipulating their thought process ("Possession") or causing direct physical harm to them (Scratchings, unexplained bruising or injury, causing unexplained illness, etc). If you watch any of the various TV shows about the paranormal, you will see evidence for things like this.

What if?

Those are simply traces left in space by things that existed but are long gone, like a photographic image? (see gravitational waves).

And a healthy person who is in a certain state (anxiety, hypnosis or such) sees them not because he's going crazy or is suggestible, but because the neurotransmitters heighten their awareness of that dimension?

People in psychotic states hear voices, see things.
A psychotic state is a pathological state no doubt, but what if it also opens gates to another dimension too?
And the confused, unwell person tries to make sense of the cacophony of images and sounds by selectively attending to them & creating their own narrative?
 
What if?

Those are simply traces left in space by things that existed but are long gone, like a photographic image? (see gravitational waves).

And a healthy person who is in a certain state (anxiety, hypnosis or such) sees them not because he's going crazy or is suggestible, but because the neurotransmitters heighten their awareness of that dimension?

People in psychotic states hear voices, see things.
A psychotic state is a pathological state no doubt, but what if it also opens gates to another dimension too?
And the confused, unwell person tries to make sense of the cacophony of images and sounds by selectively attending to them & creating their own narrative?

Einstein must be spinning around, looking for his brain...

Gravitational waves have nothing to do with photography. They are ripples in spacetime. They are created by accelerated large mass's. They were first explained by Einstein, but it was not until recently they were actually measured by LIGO. This has now reinforced ( read proved) part of his theory of General Relativity
 
That would also explain the theory of reincarnation.
Out of all the thousands of crockpots or charlatans, there were a handful of very believable cases.
Maybe it's linked to the same phenomenon.


In saying that, that doesn't negate the possibility of 'life after death'.
Scientists can't just dismiss the plethora of NDE's as mere 'hallucinations due to lack of oxygen', without doing studies disproving the alternatives too.
You don't see the content of posties notes on the other side of the room after you coded, just because.
 
I never quite understood what gravitational waves are.

I was struggling to express myself & so I tried to borrow the language "ripples in time and space", but it ended in sonething stupid.

Einstein must be spinning around, looking for his brain...

Gravitational waves have nothing to do with photography. They are ripples in spacetime. They are created by accelerated large mass's. They were first explained by Einstein, but it was not until recently they were actually measured by LIGO. This has now reinforced ( read proved) part of his theory of General Relativity


What I was trying to get at was:

I think that atheists and scientists are sticking too rigidly to the "there are no 'God', no life after death, no 'ghosts'".
After all, only centuries ago the same scientists were just as rigid that the Earth wasn't round.

There could be all sorts of explanations for what so many people undoubtedly experienced.
They just describe &explain them differently, according to their culture or background.

More research is needed, before brushing those experiences off.
 
Einstein must be spinning around, looking for his brain...

Gravitational waves have nothing to do with photography. They are ripples in spacetime. They are created by accelerated large mass's. They were first explained by Einstein, but it was not until recently they were actually measured by LIGO. This has now reinforced ( read proved) part of his theory of General Relativity

In a different line, unrelated:

"Gravitational waves are a measure of strain in space, an effect of the motion of large masses that stretches the fabric of space-time—a way of viewing space and time as a single, interweaved continuum."
https://phys.org/news/2016-02-magical-space-time-ripple-wasnt-believed.html

I can understand the term "ripples in space",
but wtf do they mean by the highlighted part?



ETA

Yes, I can relate to the explanation that space-time is a mathematical model explaining people's different (subjective) perceptions of time and space.

But other explanations hinted to an objective? phenomenon
 
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There are certain entities that exist in our physical realm only as stray, yet sentinent energy fields.

From time to time, if the energy field is strong enough, these things can attain physical mass, or at least interact with physical matter, although on a transient and/or temporary basis. Like the equasion, Energy = mass times C squared. They consist of an electrostatic energy field. I believe that is how some of these energy beings are able to interact with the physical world.

And yes, some of these beings- MANY of them in fact, seem to thrive on inflicting pain and suffering on physical living beings. Whether by affecting their mental state, sometimes even subduing and manipulating their thought process ("Possession") or causing direct physical harm to them (Scratchings, unexplained bruising or injury, causing unexplained illness, etc). If you watch any of the various TV shows about the paranormal, you will see evidence for things like this.

I believe once that you said you were a Christian? Tell me if I got that wrong. So you are saying this isn't demons from the spiritual realm, but energy from the physical realm that is causing these injuries?
 
It sounds like you are very sensitive to the spiritual realm. Have you given any thought to why they seem to attack you, especially after you recommitted your life to Christ? Christ overcame the dark realm that is why you could say "The Lord rebuke you" and they leave.

This is not a topic that I have done much study on. I have always seen the Satanic (dark) spiritual realm more like temptation to do the things we shouldn't. Like Satan tempted Jesus in the desert. Also demons doing things to discourage us. So you think that the spiritual realm can be linked to the physical realm? Spirits can touch you?

I have to admit I don't dwell on demons, but I have not had the experiences you have. Interesting topic to discuss.

Yes, much of it has to do with my calling to spread the gospel on sites such as this one. They don't want the gospel going out. You can't always say "The Lord rebuke you" and have them leave, but the weaker ones will.

I have worked with some very good Deliverence Ministers who have written 20 books on the subject and have been working with this for over 20+ years.

That would be partially correct, but you need to think about what you just said "I have always seen the Satanic (dark) spiritual realm more like temptation to do the things we shouldn't. " If God calls you to do something and you don't do it, that is doing something that you shouldn't. When I was first called by God, satan and his demons did everything they could to stop me from doing God's will. Yes the Spiritual realm is linked to the physical realm. YES they can touch you and have touched me. It is a very creepy feeling let me tell you.

I don't dwell on demons, but they attack me and I fight back. I have learned how to fight back in the power of the Lord and they fight back, but I overcome them b the power of the Lord.

I believe that one of my jobs in heaven will be to lead an army of angels into battle. That is another reason that they attack me. I can explain why I believe this later.

I will post more of my story next------>>>
 
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