How to Deal With Problem Trolls

crysede

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I've noticed some severe problems with the troll handling techniques around here, due to ineffective or inappropriate training methods being applied.

The tragic fact is that thousands of unwanted trolls are abandoned everyday in North America, simply because their owners allowed them to become unmanageable by neglecting to train them. Along with proper socialization, the importance of training cannot be stressed enough!

INTRODUCTION TO BASIC TROLL OBEDIENCE
The trick of dealing with trolls is just to realize that their behaviour is essential attention seeking - much like the dog that jumps up on everyone, or the parrot that steals things from guests. This makes trolls very responsive to one of the training techniques we use to get rid of problem behaviours in dogs, called "behaviour shaping" (a form of operant conditioning).

The principle behind this method is the recognition that problem behaviours are almost always associated with attention seeking, thus any attention - whether positive (praise) or negative (scolding) - is a reward. So, when one scolds a dog (or troll) for the behaviour, you are actually training the dog (or troll) to behave in that manner.

It is essential for handlers to get out of the traditional mind set of thinking of scolding as punishment: scolding rewards the animal for an attention seeking behaviour as surely as praise does. The true punishment is being ignored.

HOW TO "SHAPE THE ABSENCE" OF A PROBLEM BEHAVIOUR
This method is particularly useful with a relatively untrained dog (or troll), because you don't have to deal with a lot of behaviours that are already established.

There are only two simple rules to apply:
  1. When the dog (or troll) engages in the behaviour you wish to eliminate, you simply ignore it - this will insure that the dog (or troll) get's no reinforcement for continuing to engage in this behaviour.
  2. Reinforce anything and everything the dog (or troll) does that is not the problem behaviour by giving the dog (or troll) attention.

    Put another way, reinforce whatever the dog (or troll) does, so long as the dog (or troll) is not doing what you don't want it to (eg: jumping up on everyone, making death threats, peeing on guests, etc.).
(One can also use this techniques to reinforce specific behaviours - this naturally lends itself to teaching your troll 'stupid troll tricks', for the amusement of friends, family, and neighbourhood children.)

HOMEWORK
Now, I want everyone to find themselves a troll, and spend at least 30 minutes a day training it as described above (if there are not enough trolls to go around, two or more handlers can work with the same troll).

Remember the key to successful obedience training is consistency - so no slacking off and falling back into bad habits!

By next week I expect to see everyone here with well behaved trolls. :)
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The Golden Rule: Don't Complain, Train.
 
Thanks. I'll remember that when I need reinforcement. Come to think of it, I have felt pretty invisible here.

FUCK YOU, YOU FUCKING SHIT FUCKITY FUCK! ;)
 
I'm afraid that's not very convincingly problematic behaviour...

I think you need to be a bit more 'in your face' - we have several qualified experts on trolling around here, I recommend studying their technique :D
 
Bump for any would-be trainers in the daytime crowd :D
 
Where was the part about the baseball bat? Did I miss it?

I prefer ash to aluminum. Ash makes a better sound, warmer and more pleasing to the ear.
 
They will soon lose interest. Never retaliate, it merely prolongs their attention seeking plans.
 
yet another post about hans. well done in the originality department
 
I can only assume you have me mixed up withsomeone else. I do not tolerate peoples belligerence, and I will not do what you wish. I shall ignore you Hanns. People will soon realise it is better to ignore you and your childish posts.
 
I shall reply to him indirectly, and address you all. He is chilidish, he is online most of the time. I suspect he is wheelchair bound, and rarely gets out. I suspect he enjoys affecting people, and is a loud mouthed little troll, with too much time on his hands. I did an IT degree, and I am certain his skills will not stand upto any tests.
 
Umm, aren't you kind of defeating your purpose, Marinda? Replying to him indirectly or directly contradicts what you said :)

Just a thought!
 
Ldy, you are quite right. I feel like addressing his issues right now, but I know I shall lose interest quickly. Perhaps I'll avoid conversation and indtead point out what he is doing.

His last post is clearly trying to detract from any tests I might set him. Nice try, Hanns Schmidt.

No, of course I didn;t meet the President.
 
Again, he diverts the test issue by getting me to answer one of his questions. I'll tell you what, Hanns, let me test you. I will come up with a question within 24 hours and pm you with it.

How do you feel about that, Mr "G"?
 
marinda said:
I suspect he is wheelchair bound, and rarely gets out.

Thanks for the insult. You obviously no absolutely nothing about people in wheelchairs.:mad:
 
Please accept my most sincere apologies, bluespoke. I dont think I need to justify my comment though. You can see what I'm getting at.

And if not, tough.
 
Do not taunt those less fortunate than you, Hanns Schmidt. You may call me Bindi if you wish. Your aim is no doubt, to cause me offence with it, and it does not.
 
Hanns_Schmidt said:
ahahahaha I'm gonna wheel you off a cliff bitch


you're in a wheelchair?

ahahah ... look..I can walk and run...ahaha







Bindi, aight

And still twice the man you will ever be!
 
marinda said:
Do not taunt those less fortunate than you, Hanns Schmidt. You may call me Bindi if you wish. Your aim is no doubt, to cause me offence with it, and it does not.

Hanns is hardly less fortunate than I. His mind is crippled.

I pity the amoeba.

When his mental age reaches double figures and he reaches puberty should we throw a party?
 
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