How long will this math last?

[Amberchgo]

Buried deep on the website of the U.S. Census Bureau is a number every American citizen, and especially those entrusted with public office, should know. It is 86,429,000.

That is the number of Americans who in 2012 got up every morning and went to work — in the private sector — and did it week after week after week.

...
All told, including both the welfare recipients and the non-welfare beneficiaries, there were 151,014,000 who "received benefits from one or more programs" in the fourth quarter of 2011. Subtract the 3,212,000 veterans, who served their country in the most profound way possible, and that leaves 147,802,000 non-veteran benefit takers.

The 147,802,000 non-veteran benefit takers outnumbered the 86,429,000 full-time private sector workers 1.7 to 1.

.......

Eventually, there will be too few carrying too many, and America will break.


http://www.cnsnews.com/commentary/t...te-sector-workers-sustain-148m-benefit-takers





This can't end well...

 

[JohnnySavage]

We should kill all the old people!

 

[Sean Renaud]

The math can last pretty much forever. There's more to the economy than simply who's working. Not to mention a lot of those people are working.

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

Look for the government to do what Stalin did in the 30s.

He surrounded and isolated the major cities, locked out farmers and coal miners, and had the military confiscate all the food and minerals from the rural areas to give to the urban dwellers. Then when there was massive starvation in the rural areas he had the military round up all the students and perfessers for expulsion from the cities.

Get used to it.

 

[Bry1313]

The math can last pretty much forever. There's more to the economy than simply who's working. Not to mention a lot of those people are working.

That's pretty much a junk article with bad math, so it can last forever.

 

[Que]

The math can last pretty much forever. There's more to the economy than simply who's working. Not to mention a lot of those people are working.

Of course....because if something cannot continue, it of course will continue as long as we just decide "it's complicated" and it must go on.

Just keep inventing new ways of measuring the cost of things, decide new reasons why less and less people are working, and redefine 'the new normal' it will be just fine...80 billion a month just isn't enough...lets print $160B.

What could possibly go wrong?

 

[cjh]

We should kill all the old people!

And all the public sector workers!

 

[ms_ann_thrope]

We should kill all the people!

IFYP.

 

[Sean Renaud]

Of course....because if something cannot continue, it of course will continue as long as we just decide "it's complicated" and it must go on.

Just keep inventing new ways of measuring the cost of things, decide new reasons why less and less people are working, and redefine 'the new normal' it will be just fine...80 billion a month just isn't enough...lets print $160B.

What could possibly go wrong?

LOL. Or keep on the current path where the problem isn't a lack of stuff, it's a lack of a distribution method. When Netflix replaced Blockbuster and various E-Readers finish off what they started with Borders and get rid of Barnes n Noble the problem isn't a lack of goods, it's a lack of jobs.

 

[islandman]

Buried deep on the website of the U.S. Census Bureau is a number every American citizen, and especially those entrusted with public office, should know. It is 86,429,000.

That is the number of Americans who in 2012 got up every morning and went to work — in the private sector — and did it week after week after week.

...
All told, including both the welfare recipients and the non-welfare beneficiaries, there were 151,014,000 who "received benefits from one or more programs" in the fourth quarter of 2011. Subtract the 3,212,000 veterans, who served their country in the most profound way possible, and that leaves 147,802,000 non-veteran benefit takers.

The 147,802,000 non-veteran benefit takers outnumbered the 86,429,000 full-time private sector workers 1.7 to 1.

.......

Eventually, there will be too few carrying too many, and America will break.


http://www.cnsnews.com/commentary/t...te-sector-workers-sustain-148m-benefit-takers





This can't end well...

Could have been worse...


For example, how many of those 86,429,000 private sector jobs are the result of government bailouts or corporate welfare?

For another, how many of the 86,429,000 ALSO get either get welfare and/or non-welfare benefits? Surely the author of that article doesn't think that no one working in the private sector gets government benefits too.

And they say that numbers never lie....

 

[Amberchgo]

The math can last pretty much forever. There's more to the economy than simply who's working. Not to mention a lot of those people are working.

I think Detroit and Illinois are pretty good examples of how long it can last.

 

[Sean Renaud]

I think Detroit and Illinois are pretty good examples of how long it can last.

I suppose. But that would be ignoring how a lot of jobs simply left.

 

[dan_c00000]

Buried deep on the website of the U.S. Census Bureau is a number every American citizen, and especially those entrusted with public office, should know. It is 86,429,000.

That is the number of Americans who in 2012 got up every morning and went to work — in the private sector — and did it week after week after week.

...
All told, including both the welfare recipients and the non-welfare beneficiaries, there were 151,014,000 who "received benefits from one or more programs" in the fourth quarter of 2011. Subtract the 3,212,000 veterans, who served their country in the most profound way possible, and that leaves 147,802,000 non-veteran benefit takers.

The 147,802,000 non-veteran benefit takers outnumbered the 86,429,000 full-time private sector workers 1.7 to 1.

.......

Eventually, there will be too few carrying too many, and America will break.


http://www.cnsnews.com/commentary/t...te-sector-workers-sustain-148m-benefit-takers





This can't end well...

Why don't you re-check your "math" and see how many of those "takers" are the elderly, children, disabled, and/or people working for poverty wages at McDonalds or Wal-Mart. I'll wait.

Anyway, look at a real report and not bullshit right wing source.

 

[Amberchgo]

Why don't you re-check your "math" and see how many of those "takers" are the elderly, children, disabled, and/or people working for poverty wages at McDonalds or Wal-Mart. I'll wait.

Anyway, look at a real report and not bullshit right wing source.

The US Census Bureau is rightwing? Who knew ??

And regards to elderly, children, etc.... its still math.

More going out than coming in. Look at Illinois and Detroit to see how that works.

 

[RobDownSouth]

The US Census Bureau is rightwing? Who knew ??

And regards to elderly, children, etc.... its still math.

More going out than coming in. Look at Illinois and Detroit to see how that works.

It's an editorial that cherry picks Census figures. Notice how it conveniently discards any and all people employed by local, state and federal government. Why? Because it's more alarmist if you do that, no other reason.

And it fails to factor in the fact that children and retirees don't work.

In short, it's an intellectually dishonest article.

 

[Amberchgo]

It's an editorial that cherry picks Census figures. Notice how it conveniently discards any and all people employed by local, state and federal government. Why? Because it's more alarmist if you do that, no other reason.

And it fails to factor in the fact that children and retirees don't work.

In short, it's an intellectually dishonest article.

the retirees are part of the 147Mil. Is that not clear?

and local, state and fed employees ... their salaries and benefits are paid by whom???

 

[Bry1313]

the retirees are part of the 147Mil. Is that not clear?

and local, state and fed employees ... their salaries and benefits are paid by whom???

And the private sector employee salaries are pad by whom?

 

[Amberchgo]

And the private sector employee salaries are pad by whom?

The people who decide to buy their products. This is news to you?

 

[Sean Renaud]

the retirees are part of the 147Mil. Is that not clear?

and local, state and fed employees ... their salaries and benefits are paid by whom???

It really doesn't matter.

 

[Bry1313]

The people who decide to buy their products. This is news to you?

They are paid by the salaries of those who use their goods and services, which is the same for public employees. The % of GDP going to public sector employees has been going down, contrary to this guy's article.

 

[RjThoughts]

The veracity of the article is summed up with this comment left by a reader:

"If ANY of those 86 million workers elected the illegal immigrant from Kenya What's the problem?! ESPECIALLY if they elected him TWICE!"

 

[RobDownSouth]

the retirees are part of the 147Mil. Is that not clear?

and local, state and fed employees ... their salaries and benefits are paid by whom???

Apology accepted. Go forth and derp no more.

 

[Amberchgo]

It really doesn't matter.

WOW ...

 

[RobDownSouth]

Oh Lord, it looks like we have us another GOVERNMENT BAD! c+p moran.

 

[Sean Renaud]

WOW ...

I know it's difficult to understand that we need a lot fewer people to keep this bitch moving than we once did but it's really just that simple.