How is stuff with a "vanilla" bent received?

[panda_chick]

As a female supremist, I am very interested in writing and promoting stories that advocate women taking control of the men in their relationships. However, I prefer a sub-genre where the topic is introduced in a very vanilla way, so that women that have not yet come around to my thinking might be motivated to do so... and the men that want so badly to submit to their wives might be motivated to pass the stories along. (Some might be familiar with the classic book in this sub-genre, Around Her Finger by Ken Addison.) My question is this... would Literotica readers care for stories about a woman's subtle manipulation of her husband? Is it enough to tease the reader with the beginning of a woman's journey to dominance, or are Literotica readers more concerned with what might better be termed "advanced" D/s and quickly pass over my stories.

I ask this because I don't want to post stories that instantly get negative reviews. Your opinions would be appreciated.

 

[MLyons]

I can only speak for myself, but _I_ would DEFINITELY be interested in this.

Tradiational D/s roles tend to bore me. It's frustratingly rare to find subtle psychological manipulation in a sexual context done well.

I think, however, that you should brace yourself for getting bad votes, and negative feedback should you undertake such a thing. You should brace yourself for that in any cicrumstance. They will almost inevitably come no matter what you write. But for my role as a reader, I'd rather read something the author was very passionate about than something that the author is just writing because they think that's what the audience wants to read.

 

[cantdog]

My question is this... would Literotica readers care for stories about a woman's subtle manipulation of her husband? Is it enough to tease the reader with the beginning of a woman's journey to dominance, or are Literotica readers more concerned with what might better be termed "advanced" D/s and quickly pass over my stories.

I ask this because I don't want to post stories that instantly get negative reviews. Your opinions would be appreciated.

My foray into BDSM begins with the main character largely innocent in all ways. He experiences both sides of the divide before the story finishes. I put it in BDSM and it hasn't done particularly well there.

BUT! It has other features that might have contributed to the lukewarm reception. It's a crisp, headlong, amused, joyful, and self-mocking story. It's, like, really long, dude. Either the humor and joy or the sheer length might have had an effect.

It might have been better in Group or E/Cs. (This is the 40 Days of the Weasel story.)

cantdog

 

[rgraham666]

You have a different perspective on 'vanilla' than me.

Other than that, it depends on how well written your stories are. All the usual rules apply, good settings, full characters, rich word play, a plot that pulls the reader in.

But you'll always get negative reviews. It's a D/s game a particular subspecies of person likes to pull. They're known as 'trolls'.

Just ignore them.

 

[NoJo]

Panda Chick, one of the nice things about Lit. is that there's such a large variety of readers that it's pretty hard *not* to please quite a lot of people.

"Subtle manipulation" is a genre which I particlarly like -- I think quite a few male readers do.

But you always have to be prepared to receive some bad feedback, or worse, no feedback at all, for your story.


Joe.

 

[cantdog]

Sub Joe:
Panda Chick, one of the nice things about Lit. is that there's such a large variety of readers that it's pretty hard *not* to please quite a lot of people.

"Subtle manipulation" is a genre which I particlarly like -- I think quite a few male readers do.

But, like any writing, you have to be prepared for bad reactions, or worse, no reactions, to your story.

Joe.
Oh, the reviews were okay. People who bothered with it liked it fine. It's just that hardly anyone did. It's in the wrong category, or at least, I hope it is!

cantdog

 

[NoJo]

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[Guest]

Panda Chick, I'd be very interested in your stories. I've written what I call 'lite' bdsm cos I was more interested in the characters and settings.

Perdita

 

[Guest]

 

[Guest]

BDSM is but one of the many categories at Lit, and while it is a very popular category, it isn't the most widely read. However, one word of slight warning, most people, who read that category regularly, like their BDSM to be of the stronger variety. That doesn't mean a "vanilla" introduction for one (or more) of the characters wouldn't work, though.

I do think category placing can have a great impact on how a story is received, and, from what you have said, it would fit in no other category. I do think, if it is well written, and it is clear from the outset that the woman is starting down the path of manipulating her man to submit to her, then it will be well received in BDSM.

I'd certainly be interested in reading it.

Lou

 

[Evil Alpaca]

BDSM is but one of the many categories at Lit, and while it is a very popular category, it isn't the most widely read. However, one word of slight warning, most people, who read that category regularly, like their BDSM to be of the stronger variety. That doesn't mean a "vanilla" introduction for one (or more) of the characters wouldn't work, though.

I do think category placing can have a great impact on how a story is received, and, from what you have said, it would fit in no other category. I do think, if it is well written, and it is clear from the outset that the woman is starting down the path of manipulating her man to submit to her, then it will be well received in BDSM.

I'd certainly be interested in reading it.

Lou

I'm glad she brought this up though. I've got a couple of stories I'll be posting early next year that have BDSM in them, but that is only one aspect of the stories, so I've been trying to figure out where to put them (regarding category).

 

[Guest]

I'm glad she brought this up though. I've got a couple of stories I'll be posting early next year that have BDSM in them, but that is only one aspect of the stories, so I've been trying to figure out where to put them (regarding category).

I had that problem with my holiday comp story. It was humorous, but had a definite BDSM theme (well, with the word dungeon in the title, it would!). I went with Humour and Satire in the end, because that was the predominant theme of the two.

It all depends on how strong the BDSM element is - if it is heavy, then put it in BDSM. If it only lightly touches on it, then I'd be more inclined to go for another category.

Lou

 

[CharleyH]

As a female supremist, I am very interested in writing and promoting stories that advocate women taking control of the men in their relationships. However, I prefer a sub-genre where the topic is introduced in a very vanilla way, so that women that have not yet come around to my thinking might be motivated to do so... and the men that want so badly to submit to their wives might be motivated to pass the stories along. (Some might be familiar with the classic book in this sub-genre, Around Her Finger by Ken Addison.) My question is this... would Literotica readers care for stories about a woman's subtle manipulation of her husband? Is it enough to tease the reader with the beginning of a woman's journey to dominance, or are Literotica readers more concerned with what might better be termed "advanced" D/s and quickly pass over my stories.

I ask this because I don't want to post stories that instantly get negative reviews. Your opinions would be appreciated.

Vanilla does not go well under any category in my experience, you will get the 'oft PC from guys saying 'it didn't get me off, bitch', but alas, who cares. You have a great command of language, I am certain you have even greater command. There are many submissive men who will enjoy the story, many strong women who will be interested in how you play it out . . . and there will be those who do not believe in the strength of a woman in control. Hit and miss really. I think Lou or CantD said that.

If the intension is to build to the ultimate end that I believe you are considering, then starting out vanilla, and working your way up from there is a good idea as long as in the intro, there is the hint of something far more devious . . .

my one cent

 

[Liar]

I'm glad she brought this up though. I've got a couple of stories I'll be posting early next year that have BDSM in them, but that is only one aspect of the stories, so I've been trying to figure out where to put them (regarding category).

Me, I focused on the other aspects of the story, and posted it under Romance. This story I wrote had a D/s theme, but in the BDSM category, the BD and the SM seems to be more important than the DS, the actual emotional dynamics of a relationships. And to me, that's where the turn on is.

It did darn well in Romance, btw.

#L