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In spite of all the bullshit we blabber to the contrary ever last person on Earth is judgmental and has her standards and deal-breakers when it comes to relationships.

Just read a Elmore Leonard story about a widower with two kids who proposes to a mail-order bride, and discovers her 'past' when she arrives in Tombstone. One of the guys recognizes her and blabs.

To make things worse, she's young, and blonde, and purty, and the kids take to her immediately.

The rancher talks it over with the old Judge who says, IF SHE CAN COOK, TOO, SHE MIGHT BE WORTH THE CANDLE.

So! Are your standards non-negotiable or do you wait to see if he can cook too?
 
Standards are something we need to consider as unfair, if we don't hold ourselves to the same level of standards we set for others.
This site is written by amateurs, writers who haven't got what it takes to make it in mainstream yet. The standards we set for their writing, is often far higher than they can attain, their lack of experience being the reason.
Comparing writers here with established authors, is apples and oranges thinking, there's no comparison between them, other than they write stories.

Writing is like painting a picture. It's the writer's expression of the subject and how they approached it. Da Vinci and Picasso are both masters, but their styles and standards are completely different from each other. One is a purist, the other abstract, but both showing their interpretation of the subject matter.

What are the standards for Lit. writers? What level of writing is needed to achieve those standards and beyond? 4 out of 5 is considered a good score by most, so is that the standard? Do they need to receive H's to make the grade? Can you compare different genres together?

As a writer, I will ever judge another writer's story based on standards. What they create is a personal expression and for readers, it's their job to interpret what has been made, just like a painting. Galleries are filled with artwork, all different in contexts, but none are judged on a common set of standards. Libraries are the same.

Galleries and libraries are the standards that writers and artists hope to attain one day, but until then, everyone is an amateur.
 
Standards are something we need to consider as unfair, if we don't hold ourselves to the same level of standards we set for others.
This site is written by amateurs, writers who haven't got what it takes to make it in mainstream yet. The standards we set for their writing, is often far higher than they can attain, their lack of experience being the reason.
Comparing writers here with established authors, is apples and oranges thinking, there's no comparison between them, other than they write stories.

Writing is like painting a picture. It's the writer's expression of the subject and how they approached it. Da Vinci and Picasso are both masters, but their styles and standards are completely different from each other. One is a purist, the other abstract, but both showing their interpretation of the subject matter.

What are the standards for Lit. writers? What level of writing is needed to achieve those standards and beyond? 4 out of 5 is considered a good score by most, so is that the standard? Do they need to receive H's to make the grade? Can you compare different genres together?

As a writer, I will ever judge another writer's story based on standards. What they create is a personal expression and for readers, it's their job to interpret what has been made, just like a painting. Galleries are filled with artwork, all different in contexts, but none are judged on a common set of standards. Libraries are the same.

Galleries and libraries are the standards that writers and artists hope to attain one day, but until then, everyone is an amateur.

Did you read my question? RELATIONSHIPS? Amigo.
 
Relationships are the same thing. Standards we set for others, aren't lived up to by ourselves. We expect more out of others, than we do from ourselves.
Whose standards do we live up to and why? My standards are different than yours and plenty of others, but whose are the better standards?

Being judgemental of others, based on standards, diminishes an individual's ability to be themselves and their right to choice is gone, or greatly curtailed.

Yes, people are judgemental and that's where the problems in life start.
 
Relationships are the same thing. Standards we set for others, aren't lived up to by ourselves. We expect more out of others, than we do from ourselves.
Whose standards do we live up to and why? My standards are different than yours and plenty of others, but whose are the better standards?

Being judgemental of others, based on standards, diminishes an individual's ability to be themselves and their right to choice is gone, or greatly curtailed.

Yes, people are judgemental and that's where the problems in life start.

So what youre saying is, YOU DONT KNOW? OR Youre game for whatever your partner brings to the pot luck?

I have standards, not high standards, but standards. For example, she cant shit on the bed or puncture my tires with a butcher knife. I know a Tampa judge who's mighty okey with the tire business. A judge up here is okay with a teen kicking his foster moms ass. But I'm okay with a woman who smokes in the car or the house. I'm okay with a woman who cant boil water or sew a button. I'm not okay with animal neglect or cruelty. And clean sheets aren't negotiable.
 
I would consider those preferences, not standards. There is a certain level a woman must be at, to meet the standards of another, in your words, or she's sub-standard. Different cultures have different standards, so who's do we go by? You might not live up to hers, yet you might feel your standards are higher than hers are.
Being judgemental of another, based on that, shows a shallow character and one who's deeply biased. Judging a person on their actions, is another thing entirely.
 
I would consider those preferences, not standards. There is a certain level a woman must be at, to meet the standards of another, in your words, or she's sub-standard. Different cultures have different standards, so who's do we go by? You might not live up to hers, yet you might feel your standards are higher than hers are.
Being judgemental of another, based on that, shows a shallow character and one who's deeply biased. Judging a person on their actions, is another thing entirely.

I'll stipulate that I'm a shallow guy and deeply biased.

We definitely need to go by the IK! culture of Africa. Parents abandon their kids when theyre 3 and plenty of parents use babies as bait for leopards.

I suspect most women take your measure and judge you timid. Women see right thru men so we might as well be congruent.
 
I'll stipulate that I'm a shallow guy and deeply biased.

We definitely need to go by the IK! culture of Africa. Parents abandon their kids when theyre 3 and plenty of parents use babies as bait for leopards.

I suspect most women take your measure and judge you timid. Women see right thru men so we might as well be congruent.

And if you didn't use your kid as bait, if you were in Africa, they would consider you a coward and unworthy to be in the tribe. Standards are based on the necessities of life. It's nice to sit in your easy chair in St. Pete's and judge others on how they have to survive. You forgot cannibalism, btw and that one tribe would sell off another as slaves back in the days of slavery.

Too many Chinese baby girls have met an untimely death, due to just being female, or sold off to anyone who is willing to take them. We can keep going around the world looking at standards of each culture and see the striking differences in them. Whose standards are better and whose should the others be based on?
 
And if you didn't use your kid as bait, if you were in Africa, they would consider you a coward and unworthy to be in the tribe. Standards are based on the necessities of life. It's nice to sit in your easy chair in St. Pete's and judge others on how they have to survive. You forgot cannibalism, btw and that one tribe would sell off another as slaves back in the days of slavery.

Too many Chinese baby girls have met an untimely death, due to just being female, or sold off to anyone who is willing to take them. We can keep going around the world looking at standards of each culture and see the striking differences in them. Whose standards are better and whose should the others be based on?

Your exhorting Franz Boaz' nonsense. He influenced generations of stupid girls to believe that a Nazi is ever bit as good as an Amish farmer. He was the jackass who got people to discount judgment and standards.
 
So, in your opinion, we need standards and judgements for people. Who gets to make them and how universal are they across the board? Just making more rules to break and a society overburdened with political correctness already, isn't going to solve anything.
You get to be you, so let them, be them and be happy.
 
So, in your opinion, we need standards and judgements for people. Who gets to make them and how universal are they across the board? Just making more rules to break and a society overburdened with political correctness already, isn't going to solve anything.
You get to be you, so let them, be them and be happy.

I make the standards for my benefit. If she shits in my bed I'll send her to you where she'll be welcome.
 
I make the standards for my benefit. If she shits in my bed I'll send her to you where she'll be welcome.

Interesting women you meet at WalMart. Might be time to go to Target and check out a different class. I'm sure there's plenty of women who don't shit in the bed.
 
Interesting women you meet at WalMart. Might be time to go to Target and check out a different class. I'm sure there's plenty of women who don't shit in the bed.

Bed shitters do exist.

But I'm partial to the WAL MART gals, they'll let you rub their pussies in public, and expose their tits.
 
If that's your bent, you're welcome to it. I prefer more refinement in my women, myself. ;)

I really do. Ever fuck a woman in the church kitchen during a wedding reception?

Them WALMART gals like that pussy right on the edge.

About 3 oclock in the morning go the paint department, youll prolly catch one fucking in the short aisle behind the paint mixer desk. Most of the time you can move the paint cans outta the way and bend her over the shelf.
 
I really do. Ever fuck a woman in the church kitchen during a wedding reception?

Them WALMART gals like that pussy right on the edge.

About 3 oclock in the morning go the paint department, youll prolly catch one fucking in the short aisle behind the paint mixer desk. Most of the time you can move the paint cans outta the way and bend her over the shelf.

This from the man who talks about standards. As long as she doesn't shit in your bed and blow boogers in your drink, right?
 
Read another Elmore Leonard story with the same theme. Woman taken captive by Indians and rescued by the army. The Indians tattooed her face. Her husband refuses to let the squaw in his house, and forces her to live alone in a shack out in the wilderness until a cowboy comes along one day and wants her.
 
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