How do you do it? (Write, I mean.)

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I just got hold of Daniel Chandler's "The Act Of Writing" as a part of a basic course in jornalism I'm attending. Never heard of those writing strategies he talks about before, but they seem to make sense to me.

I'm definitely a water-colourist. I have the whole thing planned in my head when I start to type, and my characters does not "get a life of their own and take over". Nothing unplanned happens in the plot (How can it, when I decide what happens?). If a story turns out to have flaws, illogic plot or something, I can't correct it while I write, it's make or break every time. I never write down notes, and I almost never make any more revisions than to correct spelling and language.

What kind of writers are you? How does a story of yours come into being?

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Writing Strategies

[Ali] Wyllie (1993) surveyed student and academic writers to learn about the writing strategies they used. She categorised five main strategies and gave them names associated with creative or construction occupations.

Water-colourist
Architect
Bricklayer
Sketcher
Oil painter

'Water-colourists’
They start writing with the end result clearly in their minds. They think hard about what they going to say and make mental plans about the structure. They then work continuously and sequentially until the job is done, with few pauses or revisions. They rarely lose sight of the ‘big picture’ as they write. Only a small percentage of the respondents were in this category!

‘Architects’
They made detailed plans first, usually with chapter or section headings to guide them. They write a first draft, usually in a sequential way, starting with chapter 1, but sometimes starting with the easiest section. They then continually review and revise their work until satisfied with it. They rarely correct as they go along, preferring instead to leave it until they have completed the first draft.

‘Bricklayers’
They don’t always have a big picture in their minds when they start writing, but more likely a series of ideas and points they want to make. They start with one idea and build up the text sentence by sentence, revising each until they are happy with it. Their revision is predominantly at a small scale, sentence or paragraph level, rather than with the text as a whole. The big picture emerges slowly in the process, with ideas emerging sequentially and gradually

‘Sketchers’
They usually produce rough plans that organise text under broad headings, though these might be abandoned once they begin to write. They are flexible in their writing, usually writing in a linear and sequential way, from introduction onward, but sometimes starting with an easy section. They revise frequently, both to the meaning, grammar, spelling and ordering of the text, both during the
writing and after, until they are satisfied with it.

‘Oil-painter’
They write by discovery and never have a complete picture in their minds when they start. They start off by jotting down a few ideas as they occur and organise these later. They begin writing sometimes with a rough plan, but often not. They jump into the text anywhere they feel comfortable or at the easiest part and go backwards andforwards from there. Their work is subject to much revision and they may correct as they go along, but generally do this later.
 
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Vacillating between 'Bricklayer' and 'Sketcher' ... depending on whether or not I'm writing for a themed contest and/or with a partner.
 
Cool article. :)

I'm somewhere between a sketcher and an oil painter. I write in a linear fashion, with only an idea of where I'm headed, and fill in the details as I go. Sometimes I'm not sure at first, so I leave my early ideas vague so the story can develop more and then go back and change it when things become definite. Instead of notes or outlines, I just write, so that the rough draft itself is my outline. I let my characters tell the story. They also flesh themselves out as the story progresses, and I go back and change the early parts to make them strong and consistent.

In my current novel I'm not allowing myself to revise until I finish the rough draft. That way I can have the whole picture in front of me before I start slicing it up.
 
Bricklayer. By a long way. That's actually the most accurate description of my writing style that I've ever seen on paper.

The Earl
 
None of those seem spot on for me, though I guess I'm closest to the sketcher.

I usually have a story with a beginning, middle and end in mind but will often fill in the holes in plot as i go along, and I don't always know how a story will end. I have to write from beginning to end, I can't hop about, I just can't, I have to go with the story, at it's pace. My characters do take over sometimes, demanding more than I originally planned or changing their characteristics a bit as I go through the story. I can start something from as little as a sentance and build the idea as I'm going.

I don't write plans, but i do have various emails sent to myself with idea snippets which eventually will become stories. I edit as I go (when i get stuck writing,I edit) and I edit afterwards (with alot of help! I :heart: rumply) and I cannot stand editing, though I am getting better at it, marginally.

One thing that happens with every story I write is I "dream" it first. I run it through my mind as a daydream and visualise the characters their surroundings. If I don't do this, I can't write a story.
 
An oil-painter. Almost definitely. I can't say I've ever really written linearly. Not once can I remember not jumping around the story and going back, then forward. i know where I'm headed, but I don't usually know the details. They come out fairly clearly in the first draft, and often my second draft is hardly different from the first. The final one usually has only a few changes from there, as well.

Nice article, Liar.

Q_C
 
English Lady said:
One thing that happens with every story I write is I "dream" it first. I run it through my mind as a daydream and visualise the characters their surroundings. If I don't do this, I can't write a story.

I do that too, visualize each scene without conscious effort, and if I can't relax my mind enough to do that the scene always shows it. That is, I let the characters do what they do, instead of telling them what to do.
 
Water-colourist.

I don't start writing until I have a fairly clear idea in my mind of the over arching story line. And there usually few revisions. I will often, during editing, fill in things quite a bit. But I've rarely dropped or added something from the first draft.
 
definitely a sketcher over here. i know in broad terms where i want to wind up, but generally wind up revising towards that end.

ed
 
rgraham666 said:
Water-colourist.

I don't start writing until I have a fairly clear idea in my mind of the over arching story line. And there usually few revisions. I will often, during editing, fill in things quite a bit. But I've rarely dropped or added something from the first draft.
Then yopu might have some wisdom to share with a fellow water-colourist. I had figured that my writing strategy was to blame for why I can't finish eough stories. If I get stuck half way through (because of faulty initial thinking), I seem to be unable to revise it mid-race, and scrap it instead.

And yet, you are prolific with the best of 'em. What's the secret?
 
Liar said:
Then yopu might have some wisdom to share with a fellow water-colourist. I had figured that my writing strategy was to blame for why I can't finish eough stories. If I get stuck half way through (because of faulty initial thinking), I seem to be unable to revise it mid-race, and scrap it instead.

And yet, you are prolific with the best of 'em. What's the secret?

I don't regard myself as that prolific. Working on that, both the attitude and the amount.

I'm finding that it is simply a matter of discipline. I make myself sit down and write. Even if I'm not in the mood. Even if I'd rather be dipped in honey and rolled in stinging red ants. Sit down and write.

I'm also trying to get breaking the habit of working on a single piece at a time. So if one story isn't doing it for me, I'll work on another.

Can't say it's entirely successful. I'm the worst disciplined person on the planet, and dislike leaving things 'undone'. ;)

But I'm making headway.
 
rgraham666 said:
I don't regard myself as that prolific. Working on that, both the attitude and the amount.

I'm finding that it is simply a matter of discipline. I make myself sit down and write. Even if I'm not in the mood. Even if I'd rather be dipped in honey and rolled in stinging red ants. Sit down and write.
Hmm. Yah. That might be the thing. There's just one problem with all of that. Being not in the mood is not the exception. I'm never in the mood for writing.

Writing sucks donkey balls. I love to construct plots, make up stories and create characters. I also love to have what I've written read. But the step inbetween that, the creation of text, is horrible. Five minutes into writing, I've got a headache. Every time. So, in order to do something I love, I have to do something I hate. You could say I've got a bit of a motivation problem right there. :rolleyes:
 
"A Water Colourist"

I have most of the story planned before I embark on writing, including the ending which I concider to be the most important part, where is the story going.

I could also be a scribbler <grin
I'll scribble the whole tale out in chapters and build on each chapter as I feel best focussed in this area. I could write the last chapter first then go and write chapter 3 then chapter 7 and then chapter 1 but all seem to lead or flow towards the last chapter for me.

In my current novel I may pop up in bed from a solid slumber and decide to put a chapter in between m,y current chapters 8 and 9, a thought comes to enhance an area of the tale.

I use to write starting with chapter one then chapter two and some times the story would never make it to the end (lost in limbo <where to go with the story>) so I have found it best to have a destination for the tale and the avenues to get there are the changing highways of ideas for there are a lot of ways to get some place but if you set out without a destination where will it go?

good idea for a topic liar....thanks
 
Liar said:
I just got hold of Daniel Chandler's "The Act Of Writing" as a part of a basic course in jornalism I'm attending. Never heard of those writing strategies he talks about before, but they seem to make sense to me.

I'm definitely a water-colourist. I have the whole thing planned in my head when I start to type, and my characters does not "get a life of their own and take over". Nothing unplanned happens in the plot (How can it, when I decide what happens?). If a story turns out to have flaws, illogic plot or something, I can't correct it while I write, it's make or break every time. I never write down notes, and I almost never make any more revisions than to correct spelling and language.

What kind of writers are you? How does a story of yours come into being?

------------

Writing Strategies

[Ali] Wyllie (1993) surveyed student and academic writers to learn about the writing strategies they used. She categorised five main strategies and gave them names associated with creative or construction occupations.

Water-colourist
Architect
Bricklayer
Sketcher
Oil painter

'Water-colourists’
They start writing with the end result clearly in their minds. They think hard about what they going to say and make mental plans about the structure. They then work continuously and sequentially until the job is done, with few pauses or revisions. They rarely lose sight of the ‘big picture’ as they write. Only a small percentage of the respondents were in this category!

‘Architects’
They made detailed plans first, usually with chapter or section headings to guide them. They write a first draft, usually in a sequential way, starting with chapter 1, but sometimes starting with the easiest section. They then continually review and revise their work until satisfied with it. They rarely correct as they go along, preferring instead to leave it until they have completed the first draft.

‘Bricklayers’
They don’t always have a big picture in their minds when they start writing, but more likely a series of ideas and points they want to make. They start with one idea and build up the text sentence by sentence, revising each until they are happy with it. Their revision is predominantly at a small scale, sentence or paragraph level, rather than with the text as a whole. The big picture emerges slowly in the process, with ideas emerging sequentially and gradually

‘Sketchers’
They usually produce rough plans that organise text under broad headings, though these might be abandoned once they begin to write. They are flexible in their writing, usually writing in a linear and sequential way, from introduction onward, but sometimes starting with an easy section. They revise frequently, both to the meaning, grammar, spelling and ordering of the text, both during the
writing and after, until they are satisfied with it.

‘Oil-painter’
They write by discovery and never have a complete picture in their minds when they start. They start off by jotting down a few ideas as they occur and organise these later. They begin writing sometimes with a rough plan, but often not. They jump into the text anywhere they feel comfortable or at the easiest part and go backwards andforwards from there. Their work is subject to much revision and they may correct as they go along, but generally do this later.


Definitely Oil Painter...I rarely write in a serial fashion...usually I write int bits and pieces that somehow become joined to become a complete story...
 
Liar said:
Hmm. Yah. That might be the thing. There's just one problem with all of that. Being not in the mood is not the exception. I'm never in the mood for writing.

Writing sucks donkey balls. I love to construct plots, make up stories and create characters. I also love to have what I've written read. But the step inbetween that, the creation of text, is horrible. Five minutes into writing, I've got a headache. Every time. So, in order to do something I love, I have to do something I hate. You could say I've got a bit of a motivation problem right there. :rolleyes:

are the headaches from?

a bright screen (turn the brightness down a shade an eases the glare factor)

distance from the monitor may be to close or to far away

keep asprin handy or a neck massager (asian preferably ) <bigrin>

inner brain collision of thoughts at the intersection of what to write and have no idea! <grin revert to suggestion 3 <grin
 
Hmmmm.....

I've read and reread each type of writer described and i don't seem to fit any of them...

I'm a story teller.... I have a basic broad idea and just start punching keys... I have the vaguest idea of where the story is going or why. The characters just take over and have their fun.... ideas come as the story goes along....

It works for me but then again I consider myself a hack more than a writer...
 
My Erotic Trail said:
are the headaches from?

a bright screen (turn the brightness down a shade an eases the glare factor)

distance from the monitor may be to close or to far away
Nopes. Good screen, bad screen, piece or paper, scrabble bricks, Etch-a-scetch...doesn't matter. It's the chore of making words out of letters and sentences out of words that is the tough part. I know what I want to write, down to lots of individual phrases most of the time. It's actually doing it that is a battle.

I guess that's why I like to write poems. They're way shorter. :)
 
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Oil painting brick layer.

revising as I go with only a few ideas to aim for. I like the idea of beginning anywhere you like but I almost exclusively begin at the beginning.
 
The only one that couldn't describe me is the oil painter. I'm probably close to an even split between a bricklayer and a sketcher, though. Like the water colourist I always have the end result clearly in my mind, and I always have a plan, but not to the extreme of the architect.
 
I've tried every medium mentioned- both as a writing style and as a painter. Mostly it turns out I'm a painter, not a writer. And, btw, the description of oil painting doesn't describe the way I paint in oils very well... but what the heck.
 
A subject in oils

Heh. I'm a oil painter...Jackson Pollack style. I know what the hell I'm doing while I'm doing it...I think. But no one else does.

And let me say, it's a bitch. I never know how the damn story is going to end. Or exactly what's going to happen. Or what the twist is going to be. I write and scrap beginnings, middles, conclusions. Characters don't work--some don't even belong. Settings aren't right.

It's a bitch to be an oil painter. You don't know where you're starting, or where it's ending or what it's going to be. And that "subject to much revision" part of being an oil painter...Talk about an understatement! Revise, revise, revise, revise....

The only thing we oil painters know is when the painting is right and finished.
 
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