How can girls be in combat when they can't even play sports with boys?

[renard_ruse]

I remember on track in high school, we had a girl on the team who went to the state championships in the half-mile. I wasn't even in the top three boys on our team in the event. I routinely beat her in practice. We were actually pretty close in practice, but this was a state finalist, far far ahead of the average girl on the team and certainly far far far ahead of the average girl in the school. Now, the reason I bring this up, is that this was not even a physically violent sport. It was just running.

In no major sport that requires any physical stamina or strength do males and females normally compete against each other. In most sports that don't even require stamina or strength they don't even compete with men. Men and women even have separate shooting events in the Olympics for crying out loud.

How on earth, can they handle fighting to the death in ground combat with men, when the vast majority of women can't even beat the vast majority of men in such peaceful sports as volleyball or tennis?

 

[parodyluvr75]

http://running.competitor.com/2011/...omen-more-suited-for-endurance-than-men_28063

 

[phrodeau]

She let you catch her?

Poor kid.

 

[girlsmiley]

I'm a better swimmer than most of the guys I know.

Why don't they just die already?

 

[Sean Renaud]

LOL. Good one Renard. I almost thought you were serious for a second!

 

[badbabysitter]

I remember on track in high school, we had a girl on the team who went to the state championships in the half-mile. I wasn't even in the top three boys on our team in the event. I routinely beat her in practice. We were actually pretty close in practice, but this was a state finalist, far far ahead of the average girl on the team and certainly far far far ahead of the average girl in the school. Now, the reason I bring this up, is that this was not even a physically violent sport. It was just running.

In no major sport that requires any physical stamina or strength do males and females normally compete against each other. In most sports that don't even require stamina or strength they don't even compete with men. Men and women even have separate shooting events in the Olympics for crying out loud.

How on earth, can they handle fighting to the death in ground combat with men, when the vast majority of women can't even beat the vast majority of men in such peaceful sports as volleyball or tennis?

Lyudimila Pavlichenko...

309 confirmed kills within 6 months

Chris Kyle

160 confirmed kills...over 11 years

How on earth can the military justify arming men who are clearly VASTLY inferior to woman when it comes to firearms

 

[ChinaBandit]

Russian 'rifle sluts' fought like hell in WWII. Of course, they fought to the death too knowing what they would get if captured alive.

 

[badbabysitter]

I remember the last time renard demonstrated his knowledge of Olympic sports as well..it's like he's doubling down on stupid deliberately

 

[Boxlicker101]

Lyudimila Pavlichenko...

309 confirmed kills within 6 months

Chris Kyle

160 confirmed kills...over 11 years

How on earth can the military justify arming men who are clearly VASTLY inferior to woman when it comes to firearms

She was around for closer to ten months.

That was pretty good, but not the best ever: http://listverse.com/2009/11/13/top-10-snipers-in-history/

 

[Liar]

I remember on track in high school, we had a girl on the team who went to the state championships in the half-mile. I wasn't even in the top three boys on our team in the event. I routinely beat her in practice. We were actually pretty close in practice, but this was a state finalist, far far ahead of the average girl on the team and certainly far far far ahead of the average girl in the school. Now, the reason I bring this up, is that this was not even a physically violent sport. It was just running.

In no major sport that requires any physical stamina or strength do males and females normally compete against each other. In most sports that don't even require stamina or strength they don't even compete with men. Men and women even have separate shooting events in the Olympics for crying out loud.

How on earth, can they handle fighting to the death in ground combat with men, when the vast majority of women can't even beat the vast majority of men in such peaceful sports as volleyball or tennis?

War is a sport to you? That's messed up, dude.

 

[ChinaBandit]

I met some very well trained IDF ladies while in the Corps back in the '80's. They would no doubt follow their orders and kill without hesitation. The PLA has some dangerous Chinese women now too.

I am all for the equalization.

 

[BotanyBoy]

Lyudimila Pavlichenko...

309 confirmed kills within 6 months

Chris Kyle

160 confirmed kills...over 11 years

How on earth can the military justify arming men who are clearly VASTLY inferior to woman when it comes to firearms

SFC Dillard Johnson -2,746 confirmed kills....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQNDCx_6sk4 <----Get on my level!! (Seriously just read that post while you listen...over and over again).

http://nation.foxnews.com/2013/06/25/sgt-1st-class-dillard-johnson-deadliest-us-soldier-record

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

Russian 'rifle sluts' fought like hell in WWII. Of course, they fought to the death too knowing what they would get if captured alive.

Just read a memoir of a German sniper who made some comments about the Red Girls. They were excellent shots with awful field-craft. For example: The Russian girls liked to shoot concealed in trees, so German snipers knew where to look for them. Trees make detection certain and evasion impossible.

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

I met some very well trained IDF ladies while in the Corps back in the '80's. They would no doubt follow their orders and kill without hesitation. The PLA has some dangerous Chinese women now too.

I am all for the equalization.

My attitude is IF THEY CAN DO IT, GOOD; IF THEY CANT THEYLL DIE SOON ENOUGH TO MAKE SMARTER WOMEN THINK TWICE ABOUT DOING IT.

Our fire department deals with the gals this way: The department has a platoon of lard asses, all ranked lieutenant or captain, who travel around to the elementary schools performing swimming safety skits.

So I expect the army to do something similar. Maybe store its gals inside command bunkers with the gay junior officers.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

He has somewhat of a valid point.

There is a big lurking fallacy here, that of pointing to the aberrant and then applying it to the whole; not all horses are Secretariat.

We should end this patronization of women in sports by claiming that the segregation of separate but equal is as appalling now as it was in the 1950s. Like any other metrosexual who opts out of sports because he cannot compete and instead heads into politics to "get even" women should compete on an level playing field in sports such as baseball, softball, basketball...,

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

...

Frankly, numerous authors have stepped forward to try to recalibrate the balance between the sexes. Some blame the men for immaturity and avoidance of responsibility; others dig deeper to explore the societal forces that are producing disparities between the sexes. Kay Hymowitz wrote, Manning Up: How the Rise of Women Has Turned Men into Boys, Hanna Rosin wrote, The End of Men and the Rise of Women, and Kathleen Parker wrote, Save the Males: Why Men Matter, Why Women Should Care. In addition, some men are courageously addressing the issue. Michael Kimmel wrote, Guyland, Leonard Sax wrote, Boys Adrift: The Five Factors Driving the Growing Epidemic of Unmotivated Boys and Underachieving Young Men, Warren Farrell wrote, The Myth of Male Power, and Richard Whitmire wrote, Why Boys Fail.

Feminist Christina Hoff Sommers, author of The War Against Boys, in an interview with Helen Smith, tried to describe the ultimate outcome of the anti-boy attitudes in public schools and throughout society. She said, "My guess is that vast numbers [of boys] will just stop trying and withdraw. It would not be an organized strike -- it would just happen. It is happening." I can imagine how the boys of the class of 2013 felt at being so totally excluded from their graduation celebration. If any ran for class officer, they lost. Three male members of that class were National Merit Finalists, but one of the girls was chosen to be recognized publicly. Numerous boys graduated with distinction, but one of the girls was chosen for recognition in the ceremony.

In many of the nation's colleges and universities today, women make up 58-60 percent of the student body. The National Center for Education documented the drop in male college students with these statistics:

Since 1988, the number of females in postbaccalaureate programs have exceeded the number of males. Between 2000 and 2010, the number of male full-time postbaccalaureate students increased by 38 percent, compared with a 62 percent increase in the number of females."

Some analysts believe that the feminist agenda of "socializing away from conventional maleness" is putting boys at risk; Sommers says, "schools today tend to be run by women for girls. Classrooms can be hostile environments for boys". . . .Boys are square pegs being forced into round holes."

Clearly the culture against boys and men is getting worse; there are more and more instances, like the graduation ceremony that I attended, where the discrimination against boys is blatant. Those of us who grew up with wonderful fathers, married great guys and have terrific sons and grandsons recognize the importance of allowing boys to be boys. After all, those boys eventually become men. Moreover, we fully understand that those women who gain at the expense of boys and men will, in the long run, ultimately lose. Society as a whole loses, too, when the culture becomes a bitter feuding ground between the sexes and an increasingly inhospitable environment for friendship and collegiality -- and, inevitably, marriage and family formation.

Janice Shaw Crouse, Ph.D.

http://www.americanthinker.com/2013/06/where_are_the_boys.html#ixzz2XVVqSYTy

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

He has somewhat of a valid point.

There is a big lurking fallacy here, that of pointing to the aberrant and then applying it to the whole; not all horses are Secretariat.

We should end this patronization of women in sports by claiming that the segregation of separate but equal is as appalling now as it was in the 1950s. Like any other metrosexual who opts out of sports because he cannot compete and instead heads into politics to "get even" women should compete on an level playing field in sports such as baseball, softball, basketball...,

Sports are segregated for a reason. The best female athletes rank low when tossed in with the guys.

 

[mercury14]

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

Sports are segregated for a reason. The best female athletes rank low when tossed in with the guys.

The same can be said about whites and blacks!

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

The same can be said about whites and blacks!

And cripples and children. Unless its basketball. Basketball is where the gals kick guy ass.

 

[Boxlicker101]

The same can be said about whites and blacks!

Not to the same degree. If you look at MLB All-Starr Game, you will see black, white, Asian and Hispanic players. The same can be said about any of the all-star games in other sports. These are the best of the best, and all races are included. No woman would ever be good enough to be named to one of these elite teams, even if she were able to even get into the league.

 

[sigh]

He has somewhat of a valid point.

There is a big lurking fallacy here, that of pointing to the aberrant and then applying it to the whole; not all horses are Secretariat.

We should end this patronization of women in sports by claiming that the segregation of separate but equal is as appalling now as it was in the 1950s. Like any other metrosexual who opts out of sports because he cannot compete and instead heads into politics to "get even" women should compete on an level playing field in sports such as baseball, softball, basketball...,

Your first two sentences are dead on. I agree. But then the conclusion you draw in your final paragraph is confusing, or maybe I'm misunderstanding you. Men clearly have the testosterone edge. It's biological and real and can't be swept away. That's why women rarely compete with men in sports. But why should that preclude women from competing amongst themselves in separate sports? They could benefit from lessons in teamwork and selflessness and good health as the boys. Why not?

But if there is a Secretariat among women out there who can compete with the boys, why not allow that too? What's the harm?

I think women should be allowed in combat if and only if they meet the exact same standards as do men in their training. Furthermore, I think if women choose this route that they also share the same quarters, showers, shithouse, meals, discipline and all the rest with men as well. If you can't get along together living side by side in training, then you have no business being side by side in battle.

 

[Colonel Hogan]

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[hobbit.]

How can girls be in combat when they can't even play sports with boys


what a crap thread title!

children AND women both make for valuable hostages.

 

[BotanyBoy]

Just read a memoir of a German sniper who made some comments about the Red Girls. They were excellent shots with awful field-craft. For example: The Russian girls liked to shoot concealed in trees, so German snipers knew where to look for them. Trees make detection certain and evasion impossible.

IME finding women with good field craft skills are the freak exception....only ever met one who didn't look at me like a fucking retard when I told her to eat the bugs, and drink the boiled/iodine flavored mooky stank water. Much less roll around in a bunch of shit and wear it for days on end.