Hotmail/Live TOS

[RodenAddison]

I see Hotmail is planning on changing their TOS to have porn/sexual communication as a violation. (I doubt it will stop the spam.)

Anyone taking this seriously? Email is an easy way to send files between writers and editors and I'd hate to lose it. I suppose we could use zip files, or even, password protect the Word doc (maybe should be doing that now anyway?) to exchange files.

Thoughts?

Cheers.

 

[TxRad]

I see Hotmail is planning on changing their TOS to have porn/sexual communication as a violation. (I doubt it will stop the spam.)

Anyone taking this seriously? Email is an easy way to send files between writers and editors and I'd hate to lose it. I suppose we could use zip files, or even, password protect the Word doc (maybe should be doing that now anyway?) to exchange files.

Thoughts?

Cheers.

I haven't used hotmail in forever so I don't see me having a problem.

 

[RodenAddison]

I haven't used hotmail in forever so I don't see me having a problem.

That's a good thought. Suggestions for other services?

 

[TxRad]

That's a good thought. Suggestions for other services?

Gmail is the best going at the moment.

 

[lovecraft68]

Okay, I'm not techy in anyway so I may be asking a stupid question here.

If the document does not have an x-rated title, say it says "summer contest entry" how do they know the content? Are they searching the doc?

Seems like a violation of rights here.

I also guess that a lot of people will leave it because of all the IM role playing that goes on.

I do a lot of those on yahoo.

 

[LettersFromTatyana]

Hmmm. After reading through the code of conduct, I really have no idea why they'd enforce it to the full letter of what they say they will. (I included the link, in case anyone is interested.)

http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/windows-live/code-of-conduct

How could they possibly ban everyone who violates this:

Prohibited Uses

You will not upload, post, transmit, transfer, distribute or facilitate distribution of any content (including text, images, sound, video, data, information or software) or otherwise use the service in a way that:

. . .

incites, advocates, or expresses pornography, obscenity, vulgarity, profanity, hatred, bigotry, racism, or gratuitous violence.

So they'll ban everyone who drops an f-bomb in their email? Anyone who uses the n-word? Anyone who mentions cunt? If they did . . . gosh, I'd really like to see the South Park episode.

If I had to guess, I'd say this is more aimed at items posted on skydrive, since they just increased the storage capacity there, and not at emails or word documents.

My lit email account is a live account, just so that I never have any problems mixing up my real life (gmail) and lit accounts. I'll take a wait and see approach, I guess.

 

[annanova]

I see Hotmail is planning on changing their TOS to have porn/sexual communication as a violation. (I doubt it will stop the spam.)

Anyone taking this seriously? Email is an easy way to send files between writers and editors and I'd hate to lose it. I suppose we could use zip files, or even, password protect the Word doc (maybe should be doing that now anyway?) to exchange files.

Thoughts?

Cheers.

Interesting. I'm going to have to go back and review the new TOS. I use (one of) my hotmail account(s) to send my stories to my editor. I also use it to send the occasional naughty picture to my mister.

 

[lovecraft68]

Hmmm. After reading through the code of conduct, I really have no idea why they'd enforce it to the full letter of what they say they will. (I included the link, in case anyone is interested.)

http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/windows-live/code-of-conduct

How could they possibly ban everyone who violates this:



So they'll ban everyone who drops an f-bomb in their email? Anyone who uses the n-word? Anyone who mentions cunt? If they did . . . gosh, I'd really like to see the South Park episode.

If I had to guess, I'd say this is more aimed at items posted on skydrive, since they just increased the storage capacity there, and not at emails or word documents.

My lit email account is a live account, just so that I never have any problems mixing up my real life (gmail) and lit accounts. I'll take a wait and see approach, I guess.

This sounds like one of those things that's going to end up on "change.org" in the form of a censorship petition and like paypal ealry this year, they're going to get spanked.

I'll have to see if my otehr half heard this, she uses a hotmail e-mail for the role plays she does with another lit member. Plenty of dirty words in those exchanges.

 

[RodenAddison]

Hmmm. After reading through the code of conduct, I really have no idea why they'd enforce it to the full letter of what they say they will. (I included the link, in case anyone is interested.)

http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/windows-live/code-of-conduct

How could they possibly ban everyone who violates this:



So they'll ban everyone who drops an f-bomb in their email? Anyone who uses the n-word? Anyone who mentions cunt? If they did . . . gosh, I'd really like to see the South Park episode.

If I had to guess, I'd say this is more aimed at items posted on skydrive, since they just increased the storage capacity there, and not at emails or word documents.

My lit email account is a live account, just so that I never have any problems mixing up my real life (gmail) and lit accounts. I'll take a wait and see approach, I guess.

I agree. I think it's not part of their TOS policy by rather their COOA (cover our own ass) policy in case the government gets all up in their faces with the GOP sabre rattling. Love it when policy is driven by potential government action. Government loves it too. Too many scared people in North America now. Nobody wants to fight for freedom—artistic or otherwise.

Maybe I'll email them and ask if they're "fuckin' serious" and see what kind of response I get.

 

[damppanties]

Gmail is the best going at the moment.

Yep. I had been thinking of moving the address I use for Lit from Hotmail to Gmail already. This might be the push that's needed.

Oh and you can transfer all folders and emails to Gmail as they are in Hotmail easily.

Aside: Firefox's spellchecker doesn't recognize Gmail and suggests Grail.

 

[TxRad]

Yep. I had been thinking of moving the address I use for Lit from Hotmail to Gmail already. This might be the push that's needed.

Oh and you can transfer all folders and emails to Gmail as they are in Hotmail easily.

Aside: Firefox's spellchecker doesn't recognize Gmail and suggests Grail.

GMail has it's own built in spell checker.

 

[lovecraft68]

Yep. I had been thinking of moving the address I use for Lit from Hotmail to Gmail already. This might be the push that's needed.

Oh and you can transfer all folders and emails to Gmail as they are in Hotmail easily.

Aside: Firefox's spellchecker doesn't recognize Gmail and suggests Grail.

If you sign up for a youtube account you have to sign up for G-mail to do so. So I have a g-mail account, but have never used it and for the life of me have no idea what the address or password is

 

[damppanties]

If you sign up for a youtube account you have to sign up for G-mail to do so. So I have a g-mail account, but have never used it and for the life of me have no idea what the address or password is

That probably happened after Google acquired YouTube. I don't have a Gmail account linked to my YouTube, never have.

Having tried Gmail, Hotmail and Yahoo, I feel Gmail is the best. It has an ease of use that isn't present in other email providers. My Lit account predates the birth of Gmail, otherwise it probably would have been a Gmail account.

 

[sun_sea_sky]

You know what troubles me about Google? They track you. They know what you are interested in, where you live, what you searched for.

So if you start emailing stories via Gmail, it wouldn't surprise me if you got an email back one day "You might be interested in these dildos/whips/chains/whatever."

 

[LettersFromTatyana]

You know what troubles me about Google? They track you. They know what you are interested in, where you live, what you searched for.

So if you start emailing stories via Gmail, it wouldn't surprise me if you got an email back one day "You might be interested in these dildos/whips/chains/whatever."

Somehow, I thought the dude who often starts his contest post with the kinky computing double entendre:

Good evening. My slave tells me that there are 89 stories in the competition to date, with an average score of 4.22 from an average of 282 votes.

would be OK with all of that.

 

[TxRad]

You know what troubles me about Google? They track you. They know what you are interested in, where you live, what you searched for.

So if you start emailing stories via Gmail, it wouldn't surprise me if you got an email back one day "You might be interested in these dildos/whips/chains/whatever."

Ya know, using Google with G-mail and FireFox, I really haven't seen any correlation between searches and such and Google promotions and prompts.

 

[lovecraft68]

You know what troubles me about Google? They track you. They know what you are interested in, where you live, what you searched for.

So if you start emailing stories via Gmail, it wouldn't surprise me if you got an email back one day "You might be interested in these dildos/whips/chains/whatever."

Oh great, in the last week alone, its been knives, horror comics, porn sites (and heavy ones like whipped ass, divine bitches, sex and submission and upper floor all hardcore BDSM)

My wife was googling rape articles for a paper she's working on and I was searching for a gun store near my new neighborhood.

Man, are they coming for me or what?

 

[ILmonamour]

You know what troubles me about Google? They track you. They know what you are interested in, where you live, what you searched for.

So if you start emailing stories via Gmail, it wouldn't surprise me if you got an email back one day "You might be interested in these dildos/whips/chains/whatever."

Google is the big brother of the email world.

Sigh, I use it with two accounts...and love it. I wouldn't mind an email that said, 'Google realizes you're bored, so these suggestions may help cure that boredom and turn your frown into one large oval.' I'd be okay with that.

 

[RodenAddison]

Oh great, in the last week alone, its been knives, horror comics, porn sites (and heavy ones like whipped ass, divine bitches, sex and submission and upper floor all hardcore BDSM)

My wife was googling rape articles for a paper she's working on and I was searching for a gun store near my new neighborhood.

Man, are they coming for me or what?

Just don't ever, EVER search anything on facebook.

 

[CeasarBoobage]

You know what troubles me about Google? They track you. They know what you are interested in, where you live, what you searched for.

So if you start emailing stories via Gmail, it wouldn't surprise me if you got an email back one day "You might be interested in these dildos/whips/chains/whatever."

Yup, they sure do! But at least Google states up front that they do.

Pretty much all the web-based email services do, whether from microsoft, yahoo, google, etc, etc, etc. It's free to you because they make their money on selling ads that are (usually) based on either the content of your emails or the surfing/searching history that your cookies tell them about.

Granted, it's been a while since I've searched in depth regarding the amount of tracking that the big companies do, but they are not really all that different. Go ahead and hate Google for tracking you everywhere, just don't think that by using another email provider you are "safe" from tracking.

 

[estragon]

Used gmail to exchange stories with writers when I was still copy editing. I like to keep dedicated accounts for projects--one business, one personal, one Lit--with different mail services, like hotmail, aol.com, gmail.

 

[firesflair]

TOS's are funny, most of them include something about porn, that I've seen, even my internet provider's does. They don't (and can't really) enforce it.