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100 Greatest War Films...

It reminded me of you because of that discussion we had on Mrs. Miniver a while back.

What do you lot think of war films? Interesting historical documentary or glorification? What film do you love/hate?

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No. I'm not watching it.

I have my own favourites.

My list wouldn't be the same as other people's.

Some of my likes:

Waterloo
Tora Tora Tora
The Longest Day
The documentaries "Why we fight"
The documentaries of the war in the Pacific.
The Bridge on the River Kwai
The Battle of the River Plate
Casablanca
Operation Petticoat (the original)

Any list of the 100 best is likely to be either a compromise, or a personal choice of the editor.

Og
 
oggbashan said:
No. I'm not watching it.

I have my own favourites.

My list wouldn't be the same as other people's.

Some of my likes:

Waterloo
Tora Tora Tora
The Longest Day
The documentaries "Why we fight"
The documentaries of the war in the Pacific.
The Bridge on the River Kwai
The Battle of the River Plate
Casablanca
Operation Petticoat (the original)

Any list of the 100 best is likely to be either a compromise, or a personal choice of the editor.

Og


well, they're voted for by the general public, so the list is pretty comprehensive. Have a look, if you like...
100 Greatest War Films

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Saving Private Ryan is the #1. Ahead of All Quiet On The Western Front? Or Paths Of Glory? Or Stalingrad? Or Cross Of Iron?

Oi. :rolleyes:
 
That is a pretty terrible list of greatest war movies. More like the most popular war movies as ranked by internet denizens.
 
only_more_so said:
That is a pretty terrible list of greatest war movies. More like the most popular war movies as ranked by internet denizens.

Considering that a Rambo movie made it in AT ALL (even if it was at the 100 spot) makes this list null and void.

I've never watched some of the older ones, such as Tora, Tora Tora and others of the same era, but some of my favorites are:

Saving Private Ryan
Black Hawk Down
Flags of Our Fathers
U-571 (I love Submarine movies)
Enemy at the Gates

I think many war films are a sort of entertainment documentary, but many are well done. However, there are other films, such as Rambo, that I don't consider to be war films but rather action movies. And there are definitely some movies that seem to glorify war rather than simply show war as it is.
 
There's some on that list that aren't even war movies - a war is the background to the movie, not its subject.
 
Although not a war movie but a documentary, the series 'Victory At Sea' is well worth watching.

Mostly shot by combat photographers, it is a close up and personal look at WW II in the Atlantic and Pacific theaters of operations from 1939 to 1945.

The musical score by Robert Russell Bennett is superb and adds immeasurably to the power of the film.

Make believe is okay, but the real thing is much more powerful.
 
starrkers said:
There's some on that list that aren't even war movies - a war is the background to the movie, not its subject.

Yeah, I was going to make that point to. But it really depends on what you mean by a war movie. For instance, Saboteur could be considered a war movie, even though there is absolutely no combat, or even scenes that are in combat areas. But the fact that there is a war going on is integral to the plot. More so than in other movies on the list.
 
One of my favorites (not sure if it made the list at all) is 'The Best Years of Our Lives'. This is one that isn't actually about war, but the aftermath and how it has affected peoples' lives.
 
tickledkitty said:
One of my favorites (not sure if it made the list at all) is 'The Best Years of Our Lives'. This is one that isn't actually about war, but the aftermath and how it has affected peoples' lives.
Good point, TK. There were some "good" movies left out--good being a very subjective term. "Hamburger Hill" had some of the most realistic combat scenes ever filmed. As for sub movies, I've always liked, "Run Silent, Run Deep" and the way it gave viewers the POV's of both the sub and destroyer commanders.

Besides, how can any list of great war movies be complete without mentioning, Abbott and Costello: "In The Navy," "Buck Privates," or "Keep 'Em Flying?"

Rumple Foreskin :cool:
 
Rumple Foreskin said:
Besides, how can any list of great war movies be complete without mentioning, Abbott and Costello: "In The Navy," "Buck Privates," or "Keep 'Em Flying?"

Rumple Foreskin :cool:

And don't forget Laurel and Hardy in "Flying Deuces"--or Martin and Lewis in "At War With The Army".

On a more serious note, "Soldier In The Rain" with Steve McQueen and Jackie Gleason is an overlooked classic.
 
Vermilion said:
100 Greatest War Films...

It reminded me of you because of that discussion we had on Mrs. Miniver a while back.

What do you lot think of war films? Interesting historical documentary or glorification? What film do you love/hate?

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Mrs. Miniver was really good. And Greer Garson was a-mazing in it.

I also give a nod to Og's original Operation Petticoat nomination. Splendid.
Another "fluffier" war movie (of the WWII era) was Father Goose with Cary Grant and Leslie Caron. I love that movie.

84 Charing Cross Road, with Anthony Hopkins and Anne Bancroft was also an excellent movie with character development and a friendship that lasted through war.

Hell, even Friendly Persuasion was great.

rgraham666 said:
Saving Private Ryan is the #1. Ahead of All Quiet On The Western Front? Or Paths Of Glory? Or Stalingrad? Or Cross Of Iron?

Oi.
Seriously. I mean, sure SPR should be given its due, but it seems to be indicative of the fact that even people who believe they have a good grasp on historical events and movies still don't have the breadth they think they do.
It's a younger generation. Band of Brothers is foremost on many lips as well.
Again, not that it's undeserving, but it sort of reinforces the fact that people aren't really doing an overlarge portion of homework about what's out there.
I realize that a lot of this stuff could be called "specialized knowledge", but that's a depressing way to think about it.
It's sad to think about how much stuff people haven't seen or read or know with regards to many of these wartime subjects.
 
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