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Hollywood joins the furor over gay marriage ban
By DERRIK J. LANG, AP Entertainment Writer Derrik J. Lang

LOS ANGELES – Thousands of protesters are angry about California's ban on gay marriage — and so are the stars.

Many celebrities grieved the passing of Proposition 8 in California this week. Some — such as Wanda Sykes, Rose McGowen and Lance Bass — attended a Wednesday protest criticizing the state's gay marriage ban. Others — like Ellen DeGeneres, Rosie O'Donnell, Samantha Ronson and Melissa Etheridge — vented their frustrations online, on TV, and onstage.

Blocks away from the Thursday rally of more than 2,000 gay-rights advocates outside the gates of a Mormon temple, several stars — including James Cromwell, Patricia Clarkson, Anjelica Huston and Sean Penn — said they supported the protesters while walking the red carpet at the BAFTA L.A. Brittania Awards at Hyatt Regency Century Plaza Hotel.

"I think it might be an idea to go out and join them shortly," Penn said. "It was a shameful decision that was made."

Etheridge, who exchanged vows with her longtime partner in a 2003 ceremony, declared she wouldn't pay her taxes in a blog entry posted Thursday on TheDailyBeast.com. The gay Oscar- and Grammy-winning singer-songwriter said without the right to marry in California, she didn't think she should have to pay taxes because "I am not a full citizen."

"I don't mean to get too personal here," Etheridge wrote. "But there is a lot I can do with the extra half a million dollars that I will be keeping instead of handing it over to the state of California. Oh, and I am sure Ellen will be a little excited to keep her bazillion bucks that she pays in taxes, too."

DeGeneres posted a brief message of support for President-elect Barack Obama and the gay-rights advocates protesting against Proposition 8 on her show's Web site Friday. The talk show host, who married actress Portia de Rossi in August, previously donated $100,000 against the ballot initiative and starred in a commercial lamenting the measure.

"So there was a demonstration here on Wednesday night," DeGeneres wrote, "and just before I walked out here, I was watching the news and there is a huge, huge, peaceful demonstration going on in the streets, and I say, good for you, and I support you, and if I weren't here, I'd be out there with you."

O'Donnell, who lives in New York, responded to comments and questions about her stance on the issue on her Web site. When one person said he understood why she didn't come out against the proposition, O'Donnell responded: "I AM AGAINST PROP 8. DUH." She also wrote she believes the estimated 18,000 gay marriages would be annulled "like mine was years ago."

The former talk show host, who lives in New York with partner Kelli Carpenter and their four children, publicly wed Carpenter in San Francisco in 2004, two weeks after Mayor Gavin Newsom authorized granting marriage licenses to same-sex couples. The licenses were later voided by the California Supreme Court.

Also ranting online was celebrity disc jockey Samantha Ronson. Lindsay Lohan's gal pal blogged Thursday that she was shocked California voters approved an animal-rights initiative but that ballot measures about gay marriage and adoption in California, Florida, Arizona and Arkansas were shot down.

"I guess people care more about farm animals than they do their fellow man, that's really sad to me," Ronson wrote on her MySpace blog. "Yes, I am glad that the chickens will have more room and better conditions as they wait to die, but I just think it's frightening that people show more compassion for tomorrow's dinner than for the chef."

Other celebs used time in the spotlight to decry the decision. Madonna took a moment during her concert at Dodger Stadium to declare to the audience that she was sad "because African-Americans are equal finally, but gay marriage is not." Former teen queen Christina Aguilera also spoke out against the ban.

"I think it's discrimination," Aguilera said in a Thursday interview with MTV News. "I don't understand how people can be so close-minded and so judgmental. We chose an African-American president who means so much in a time in history of great change and open-mindedness. Why is this any different? It just doesn't make sense to me."

AP Television reporters Marcela Isaza and Natalie Rotman contributed to this report.

*** Good article, IMO
 
I hope they do. But they wont. God doesnt love Republicans enough to make the stars do it.
 
Hollywood joins the furor over gay marriage ban
By DERRIK J. LANG, AP Entertainment Writer Derrik J. Lang

LOS ANGELES – Thousands of protesters are angry about California's ban on gay marriage — and so are the stars.

Many celebrities grieved the passing of Proposition 8 in California this week. Some — such as Wanda Sykes, Rose McGowen and Lance Bass — attended a Wednesday protest criticizing the state's gay marriage ban. Others — like Ellen DeGeneres, Rosie O'Donnell, Samantha Ronson and Melissa Etheridge — vented their frustrations online, on TV, and onstage.

Blocks away from the Thursday rally of more than 2,000 gay-rights advocates outside the gates of a Mormon temple, several stars — including James Cromwell, Patricia Clarkson, Anjelica Huston and Sean Penn — said they supported the protesters while walking the red carpet at the BAFTA L.A. Brittania Awards at Hyatt Regency Century Plaza Hotel.

"I think it might be an idea to go out and join them shortly," Penn said. "It was a shameful decision that was made."

Etheridge, who exchanged vows with her longtime partner in a 2003 ceremony, declared she wouldn't pay her taxes in a blog entry posted Thursday on TheDailyBeast.com. The gay Oscar- and Grammy-winning singer-songwriter said without the right to marry in California, she didn't think she should have to pay taxes because "I am not a full citizen."

"I don't mean to get too personal here," Etheridge wrote. "But there is a lot I can do with the extra half a million dollars that I will be keeping instead of handing it over to the state of California. Oh, and I am sure Ellen will be a little excited to keep her bazillion bucks that she pays in taxes, too."

DeGeneres posted a brief message of support for President-elect Barack Obama and the gay-rights advocates protesting against Proposition 8 on her show's Web site Friday. The talk show host, who married actress Portia de Rossi in August, previously donated $100,000 against the ballot initiative and starred in a commercial lamenting the measure.

"So there was a demonstration here on Wednesday night," DeGeneres wrote, "and just before I walked out here, I was watching the news and there is a huge, huge, peaceful demonstration going on in the streets, and I say, good for you, and I support you, and if I weren't here, I'd be out there with you."

O'Donnell, who lives in New York, responded to comments and questions about her stance on the issue on her Web site. When one person said he understood why she didn't come out against the proposition, O'Donnell responded: "I AM AGAINST PROP 8. DUH." She also wrote she believes the estimated 18,000 gay marriages would be annulled "like mine was years ago."

The former talk show host, who lives in New York with partner Kelli Carpenter and their four children, publicly wed Carpenter in San Francisco in 2004, two weeks after Mayor Gavin Newsom authorized granting marriage licenses to same-sex couples. The licenses were later voided by the California Supreme Court.

Also ranting online was celebrity disc jockey Samantha Ronson. Lindsay Lohan's gal pal blogged Thursday that she was shocked California voters approved an animal-rights initiative but that ballot measures about gay marriage and adoption in California, Florida, Arizona and Arkansas were shot down.

"I guess people care more about farm animals than they do their fellow man, that's really sad to me," Ronson wrote on her MySpace blog. "Yes, I am glad that the chickens will have more room and better conditions as they wait to die, but I just think it's frightening that people show more compassion for tomorrow's dinner than for the chef."

Other celebs used time in the spotlight to decry the decision. Madonna took a moment during her concert at Dodger Stadium to declare to the audience that she was sad "because African-Americans are equal finally, but gay marriage is not." Former teen queen Christina Aguilera also spoke out against the ban.

"I think it's discrimination," Aguilera said in a Thursday interview with MTV News. "I don't understand how people can be so close-minded and so judgmental. We chose an African-American president who means so much in a time in history of great change and open-mindedness. Why is this any different? It just doesn't make sense to me."

AP Television reporters Marcela Isaza and Natalie Rotman contributed to this report.

*** Good article, IMO

If all these big bucks celebs had come out about two months earlier we might have won. Typical Hollywood.
 
Gee, Sergeant Major, is just you and me or is it a military thing to hate Hollywood? :D

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Nah. I'm an equal opportunity "pompous asshole" hater. (With kind regards to the one's who DID donate and speak out Prop 8 BEFORE the vote)

Oh, and John Wayne and Clint Eastwood O' course! :D
 
If all these big bucks celebs had come out about two months earlier we might have won. Typical Hollywood.
O'Donnell, Etheridge, DeGeneris, Madonna, George Takei, Brad Pitt, all made very large public statements before the fact. There might be more, but I'm not up on that segment of popular culture.

And really, we know that the Church Ladies voted it in-- a group that is probably less influenced by Hollywood than any other.
 
O'Donnell, Etheridge, DeGeneris, Madonna, George Takei, Brad Pitt, all made very large public statements before the fact. There might be more, but I'm not up on that segment of popular culture.

And really, we know that the Church Ladies voted it in-- a group that is probably less influenced by Hollywood than any other.

Good point, Stella. Probably even less than I am, and that would be hard to do.
 
John Wayne was a racist piece of shit. Just so you know.

Yup, he sure was. Off screen he was a bigoted, racist, homophobic asshole. In many of his films (especially early on) he was that way On screen. But he still played the role of Sgt. Stryker better than anyone else I could imagine.
 
Brad Pitt contributed $100,000 to the cause. That is putting your money where your mouth is. I bet the others contributed as well. Church ladies of any color are a daunting force. Let us not forget the early suffragettes and their influence on Prohibition.
 
Brad Pitt contributed $100,000 to the cause. That is putting your money where your mouth is. I bet the others contributed as well. Church ladies of any color are a daunting force. Let us not forget the early suffragettes and their influence on Prohibition.

What's unreal is that the Rev. Shockley came out against PropH8 and the ladies still voted for it. Stubborn? Man!
 
O'Donnell, Etheridge, DeGeneris, Madonna, George Takei, Brad Pitt, all made very large public statements before the fact. There might be more, but I'm not up on that segment of popular culture.

And really, we know that the Church Ladies voted it in-- a group that is probably less influenced by Hollywood than any other.

I believe most celebs have little influence in a matter like this. I say "most" because there are some who have a great deal of influence, such as televangelists and a few persons such as Dr. Phil or Oprah Winfrey. Did these last two have anything to say? I don't watch either of their TV shows.

At the same time, since most of the persons you mention are rich as Croesus, they could have put more of their money where their mouths were. Brad Pitt saying he opposed the ban against gay marriage would do much less than a well-crafted TV ad he paid for on the subject. :cool:
 
I believe most celebs have little influence in a matter like this. I say "most" because there are some who have a great deal of influence, such as televangelists and a few persons such as Dr. Phil or Oprah Winfrey. Did these last two have anything to say? I don't watch either of their TV shows.

At the same time, since most of the persons you mention are rich as Croesus, they could have put more of their money where their mouths were. Brad Pitt saying he opposed the ban against gay marriage would do much less than a well-crafted TV ad he paid for on the subject. :cool:
Brad Pitt contributed $100,000 to the cause. That is putting your money where your mouth is. I bet the others contributed as well. Church ladies of any color are a daunting force. Let us not forget the early suffragettes and their influence on Prohibition.
so...
 
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Originally Posted by Boxlicker101
I believe most celebs have little influence in a matter like this. I say "most" because there are some who have a great deal of influence, such as televangelists and a few persons such as Dr. Phil or Oprah Winfrey. Did these last two have anything to say? I don't watch either of their TV shows.

At the same time, since most of the persons you mention are rich as Croesus, they could have put more of their money where their mouths were. Brad Pitt saying he opposed the ban against gay marriage would do much less than a well-crafted TV ad he paid for on the subject.

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Originally Posted by AllardChardon
Brad Pitt contributed $100,000 to the cause. That is putting your money where your mouth is. I bet the others contributed as well. Church ladies of any color are a daunting force. Let us not forget the early suffragettes and their influence on Prohibition.



I was not particularly singling out any one person, but Brad Pitt has the shortest name there. Besides that, he could do a lot more than contibute 100 grand. That's pocket change to somebody like him. The widow's mite, and all that.
 
I was not particularly singling out any one person, but Brad Pitt has the shortest name there. Besides that, he could do a lot more than contibute 100 grand. That's pocket change to somebody like him. The widow's mite, and all that.
*shakes head admiringly*

You do this so well!
 
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Originally Posted by Boxlicker101
I was not particularly singling out any one person, but Brad Pitt has the shortest name there. Besides that, he could do a lot more than contibute 100 grand. That's pocket change to somebody like him. The widow's mite, and all that.


*shakes head admiringly*

You do this so well!

Do what? :confused:
 
When I read the article about Brad Pitt contributing $100,000 to No on Prop. 8, it did not sway my vote for I was already of a like mind, but it did send a message to all his fans, which are numerous, I believe. How could that possibly be less than enough? It is better than nothing, by far, which is what many of us chose to do, other than vote no on the ballot. I did not campaign in my neighborhood. They still kill homosexuals around here. And do not appreciate their friends and supporters. I live in Red Neck Central.
 
Hollywood joins the furor over gay marriage ban
By DERRIK J. LANG, AP Entertainment Writer Derrik J. Lang

LOS ANGELES – Thousands of protesters are angry about California's ban on gay marriage — and so are the stars.

Many celebrities grieved the passing of Proposition 8 in California this week. Some — such as Wanda Sykes, Rose McGowen and Lance Bass — attended a Wednesday protest criticizing the state's gay marriage ban. Others — like Ellen DeGeneres, Rosie O'Donnell, Samantha Ronson and Melissa Etheridge — vented their frustrations online, on TV, and onstage.

Blocks away from the Thursday rally of more than 2,000 gay-rights advocates outside the gates of a Mormon temple, several stars — including James Cromwell, Patricia Clarkson, Anjelica Huston and Sean Penn — said they supported the protesters while walking the red carpet at the BAFTA L.A. Brittania Awards at Hyatt Regency Century Plaza Hotel.

"I think it might be an idea to go out and join them shortly," Penn said. "It was a shameful decision that was made."

Etheridge, who exchanged vows with her longtime partner in a 2003 ceremony, declared she wouldn't pay her taxes in a blog entry posted Thursday on TheDailyBeast.com. The gay Oscar- and Grammy-winning singer-songwriter said without the right to marry in California, she didn't think she should have to pay taxes because "I am not a full citizen."

"I don't mean to get too personal here," Etheridge wrote. "But there is a lot I can do with the extra half a million dollars that I will be keeping instead of handing it over to the state of California. Oh, and I am sure Ellen will be a little excited to keep her bazillion bucks that she pays in taxes, too."

DeGeneres posted a brief message of support for President-elect Barack Obama and the gay-rights advocates protesting against Proposition 8 on her show's Web site Friday. The talk show host, who married actress Portia de Rossi in August, previously donated $100,000 against the ballot initiative and starred in a commercial lamenting the measure.

"So there was a demonstration here on Wednesday night," DeGeneres wrote, "and just before I walked out here, I was watching the news and there is a huge, huge, peaceful demonstration going on in the streets, and I say, good for you, and I support you, and if I weren't here, I'd be out there with you."

O'Donnell, who lives in New York, responded to comments and questions about her stance on the issue on her Web site. When one person said he understood why she didn't come out against the proposition, O'Donnell responded: "I AM AGAINST PROP 8. DUH." She also wrote she believes the estimated 18,000 gay marriages would be annulled "like mine was years ago."

The former talk show host, who lives in New York with partner Kelli Carpenter and their four children, publicly wed Carpenter in San Francisco in 2004, two weeks after Mayor Gavin Newsom authorized granting marriage licenses to same-sex couples. The licenses were later voided by the California Supreme Court.

Also ranting online was celebrity disc jockey Samantha Ronson. Lindsay Lohan's gal pal blogged Thursday that she was shocked California voters approved an animal-rights initiative but that ballot measures about gay marriage and adoption in California, Florida, Arizona and Arkansas were shot down.

"I guess people care more about farm animals than they do their fellow man, that's really sad to me," Ronson wrote on her MySpace blog. "Yes, I am glad that the chickens will have more room and better conditions as they wait to die, but I just think it's frightening that people show more compassion for tomorrow's dinner than for the chef."

Other celebs used time in the spotlight to decry the decision. Madonna took a moment during her concert at Dodger Stadium to declare to the audience that she was sad "because African-Americans are equal finally, but gay marriage is not." Former teen queen Christina Aguilera also spoke out against the ban.

"I think it's discrimination," Aguilera said in a Thursday interview with MTV News. "I don't understand how people can be so close-minded and so judgmental. We chose an African-American president who means so much in a time in history of great change and open-mindedness. Why is this any different? It just doesn't make sense to me."

AP Television reporters Marcela Isaza and Natalie Rotman contributed to this report.

*** Good article, IMO

Typical celebrity posturing...it's all about publicity...find a parade and get in front of it. The majority of Americans may enjoy these persons talents', but are not influenced by their opinions.

It does suck that same sex marriages may be declared invalid, however. :(
 
Damed if they do and damned if they don't. Being a celebrity looks like less fun to me as each year goes by. I admit I like obscurity.
 
It does suck that same sex marriages may be declared invalid, however. :(

Actually, I think it would be a very good thing at this point for California to try and enforce Prop 8 ex post facto because that provides another violation of the US Constitution to use to strike it down.

Especially since so many celebrities with enough money to mount a serious challenge in addition to and alongside the ACLU challenges have legal standing to challenge an ex post facto interpretation.
 
Actually, I think it would be a very good thing at this point for California to try and enforce Prop 8 ex post facto because that provides another violation of the US Constitution to use to strike it down.

Especially since so many celebrities with enough money to mount a serious challenge in addition to and alongside the ACLU challenges have legal standing to challenge an ex post facto interpretation.

The Attorney General's official position, and one that he intends to defend in court if necessary, is that current same-sex marriages are still valid. Prop 8 said nothing about the sanctity of existing marriages one way or another.
 
Let's hope for that! I am still amazed there are so many of the religious right here in California. Utah I can understand, but California. Whew! What the fuck happened? Obviously, I am still reeling from it all.
 
I just don't get it. Gays are fighting for the right to marry? For the right to be in the military? These are the things I work had to avoid. They are throwing away the best things about being gay in the first place!......Carney
 
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