Hmm, is there a 'Loving Husbands' category?

[MorraRose]

Hmm, is there a 'Loving Husbands' category?

 

[Bramblethorn]

If you mean as a gender-flipped version of what LW is... not really. Female adultery is much more significant to story categorisation than male adultery, in the same sort of way that readers deal with lesbian content outside Lesbian much better than they deal with gay male content outside GM.

(Not sure about female adultery committed with another woman. Actually, now I'm curious about how readers would react to a LW-style story where her partner in adultery is female.)

If you mean in a straightforward "husbands, who are loving" kind of way, I guess Romance?

 

[NotWise]

If you mean in a straightforward "husbands, who are loving" kind of way, I guess Romance?

Or maybe Mature.

 

[PennameWombat]

(Not sure about female adultery committed with another woman. Actually, now I'm curious about how readers would react to a LW-style story where her partner in adultery is female.)

I'm not sure it 'qualifies' as an LW story (the husband remained unaware, but it was implied he's fucking around on the side), but I did that in Ladonna's Quandary, which is in Lesbian (a butch domme seduced a married sub femme.) Never gotten close to 'H' rating (4.13 at the moment), but the only comment I have is "it took too long to get to the hot cop domme action" (Janice, the domme, is a policewoman.) Fair number of favorites, so not sure if the 'pursuit' was too long for others as well, or something else.

 

[PennameWombat]

Hmm, is there a 'Loving Husbands' category?

Not quite sure exactly what you mean, I'm not aware of one though.

A number of my stories feature a couple of different female MCs who are bisexual and like to arrange threesomes for their boyfriends. The MMCs are allowed to fuck the women the FMCs arrange (and the FMCs get to take part, so the third women are also bisexual women, although a couple of misfires have happened.) These FMCs are generally not sexually interested in other males, but their boyfriend MMCs would be well advised to NOT fuck other women who weren't arranged by the FMCs. Most stories aren't trying to portray explicitly poly situations, but that's in a few.

These are spread across a few categories, Fetish, SF&F, Group and N&N. That aspect has never been an issue that was brought up. Since it's likely attractive in a 'male wish fulfillment' way, I don't think it's going to rile very many male readers.

 

[lc69hunter]

Hmm, is there a 'Loving Husbands' category?

There are very few out there. It implies a cuckquean relationship, of which there are a few (some well written), but doesn't need to. Most are in the Fetish category. The reality is that women cheat at about the same rate as men (approx 30%), lower if she is a stay at home wife, higher if she works out of the home, and substantially higher if she travels (one survey put it at 42%.

The reason that Loving Wives is such a popular category is that men, with their generally fragile egos, refuse to believe math, and a cheating man does not bring out visceral hatred that a cheating wife does. What they do not understand is that random cock she may have had has probably helped their marriage and love life tremendously, partially because of guilt makeup sex, but mostly because that random cock has cranked up her libido, and you are the beneficiary. The aggrieved husband always quote part of the marriage vows, forgetting the part that says for better for worse, till death do us part

As for the Loving Husband scenario, during my career in the Marine Corps, I had a lover who was also a Marine. We both understood that a one year separation, when she was stationed overseas with a 95% male population, that things happen, and that me, being a bouncer at night in one of the hot clubs, it would also happen. So I guess I was a Loving Husband.

 

[Bramblethorn]

There are very few out there. It implies a cuckquean relationship, of which there are a few (some well written), but doesn't need to. Most are in the Fetish category. The reality is that women cheat at about the same rate as men (approx 30%), lower if she is a stay at home wife, higher if she works out of the home, and substantially higher if she travels (one survey put it at 42%.

Those numbers seem high.

https://ifstudies.org/blog/who-cheats-more-the-demographics-of-cheating-in-america

"In general, men are more likely than women to cheat: 20% of men and 13% of women reported that they’ve had sex with someone other than their spouse while married, according to data from the recent General Social Survey(GSS)."

It's always hard to get accurate data on this kind of thing, and a lot of the numbers out there are put about by people who have an interest in overstating them to drum up business, but GSS is more reliable than most.

 

[alohadave]

Those numbers seem high.

https://ifstudies.org/blog/who-cheats-more-the-demographics-of-cheating-in-america

"In general, men are more likely than women to cheat: 20% of men and 13% of women reported that they’ve had sex with someone other than their spouse while married, according to data from the recent General Social Survey(GSS)."

It's always hard to get accurate data on this kind of thing, and a lot of the numbers out there are put about by people who have an interest in overstating them to drum up business, but GSS is more reliable than most.

Take that survey with a grain of salt. IFS is a conservative think tank, with the ideological bent that goes with that position.

The study also only includes current or previously married relationships, and doesn't address non-married relationships.

https://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php/Institute_for_Family_Studies

 

[onehitwanda]

Not sure about female adultery committed with another woman

There's no "good taste" category, sadly.

meow, Wanda! Back in your box!

 

[MorraRose]

If you mean as a gender-flipped version of what LW is... not really. Female adultery is much more significant to story categorisation than male adultery, in the same sort of way that readers deal with lesbian content outside Lesbian much better than they deal with gay male content outside GM.

(Not sure about female adultery committed with another woman. Actually, now I'm curious about how readers would react to a LW-style story where her partner in adultery is female.)

If you mean in a straightforward "husbands, who are loving" kind of way, I guess Romance?

I was thinking more just husbands that cheat.

 

[Kumquatqueen]

Those numbers seem high.

https://ifstudies.org/blog/who-cheats-more-the-demographics-of-cheating-in-america

"In general, men are more likely than women to cheat: 20% of men and 13% of women reported that they’ve had sex with someone other than their spouse while married, according to data from the recent General Social Survey(GSS)."

It's always hard to get accurate data on this kind of thing, and a lot of the numbers out there are put about by people who have an interest in overstating them to drum up business, but GSS is more reliable than most.

People consider it cheating if they're in a relationship. I would imagine that people in relationships who then get married are more committed and less likely to cheat than those who haven't married (because many of the latter will be in early stages of relationships that aren't that compatible).

So both sets of stats could be accurate at the same time.

 

[Rollinbones]

I’ve never understood lw. Maybe if it was called cheating whores who get totally owned by boneless vengeful chads that she wouldn’t have cheated on if he’d actually been available…. Actually reading the top hall of famers you find Todd and the shack which are fantastic noir action and a dark look at relationships and how the broken people make them work. Redemption at a cost… but even he prefaces his stories saying they’re just in lw cause that’s where the first ones went. Does anyone know what lw is anymore? Or should it be called misogynistic wasteland?

 

[Bramblethorn]

Take that survey with a grain of salt. IFS is a conservative think tank, with the ideological bent that goes with that position.

Acknowledged, but they don't run the survey - they're just crunching data published from it. (Which, granted, still leaves room for cherry-picking; I was in a hurry when I posted that and should've looked into it a bit more closely before posting.)

The study also only includes current or previously married relationships, and doesn't address non-married relationships.

I think this discussion was in the context of marriage though?

 

[NoTalentHack]

I was thinking more just husbands that cheat.

Not explicitly, no. You can try to put that in LW, but you'll probably get people complaining unless the response to the husband cheating is the wife cheating OR if the other woman is married herself. "There's no loving wife in this!" But you'll get complaints about just about anything over there.

 

[SimonDoom]

As far as I can tell there is very little reader demand for "Loving Husbands" stories, of any of the basic types, meaning:

Stories about men who cheat with negative consequences and get their comeuppance.

Stories about men who cheat and wives reconciling with them.

Stories about men who have sex outside the marriage with the gleeful support of their wives.

Stories about men who have sex outside the marriage for the purpose of humiliating their wives, and the wives enjoying (or not enjoying) the humiliation.

I could be wrong, perhaps because I'm just not looking, but I haven't seen evidence of any of this.

 

[NoTalentHack]

I’ve never understood lw. Maybe if it was called cheating whores who get totally owned by boneless vengeful chads that she wouldn’t have cheated on if he’d actually been available…. Actually reading the top hall of famers you find Todd and the shack which are fantastic noir action and a dark look at relationships and how the broken people make them work. Redemption at a cost… but even he prefaces his stories saying they’re just in lw cause that’s where the first ones went. Does anyone know what lw is anymore? Or should it be called misogynistic wasteland?

Here's a summary of why it's like that: https://forum.literotica.com/thread...o-prove-me-right.1574827/page-2#post-96483541

This is kind of a discussion of if/how much it's misogynistic compared to the rest of the site: https://forum.literotica.com/thread...gynist-wasteland.1585157/page-5#post-96707917

 

[NoTalentHack]

Stories about men who have sex outside the marriage with the gleeful support of their wives.

Stories about men who have sex outside the marriage for the purpose of humiliating their wives, and the wives enjoying (or not enjoying) the humiliation.

Cuckquean is a whole subgenre of (arguably) D/s that is basically the cuckold dynamic but reversed, and it does pretty well in Fetish, Group, Mature, nd BDSM. LW, too, sometimes.

 

[gunhilltrain]

There are very few out there. It implies a cuckquean relationship, of which there are a few (some well written), but doesn't need to. Most are in the Fetish category. The reality is that women cheat at about the same rate as men (approx 30%), lower if she is a stay at home wife, higher if she works out of the home, and substantially higher if she travels (one survey put it at 42%.

The reason that Loving Wives is such a popular category is that men, with their generally fragile egos, refuse to believe math, and a cheating man does not bring out visceral hatred that a cheating wife does. What they do not understand is that random cock she may have had has probably helped their marriage and love life tremendously, partially because of guilt makeup sex, but mostly because that random cock has cranked up her libido, and you are the beneficiary. The aggrieved husband always quote part of the marriage vows, forgetting the part that says for better for worse, till death do us part

As for the Loving Husband scenario, during my career in the Marine Corps, I had a lover who was also a Marine. We both understood that a one year separation, when she was stationed overseas with a 95% male population, that things happen, and that me, being a bouncer at night in one of the hot clubs, it would also happen. So I guess I was a Loving Husband.

I suppose this is all true, but the categories haven't changed much if at all in years. I assume that it was Laurel, a woman, who created them for some reason or another. Maybe she was considering popular preferences for maximum readership.

I know Laurel answers PMs, but I have asked, half-in-jest, if we are sure what gender Laurel is, or it she is really several people doing one role. Some here have said, "Of course she exists." But does anybody know what she looks like or where she is located?

 

[EmilyMiller]

If you mean as a gender-flipped version of what LW is... not really. Female adultery is much more significant to story categorisation than male adultery, in the same sort of way that readers deal with lesbian content outside Lesbian much better than they deal with gay male content outside GM.

(Not sure about female adultery committed with another woman. Actually, now I'm curious about how readers would react to a LW-style story where her partner in adultery is female.)

If you mean in a straightforward "husbands, who are loving" kind of way, I guess Romance?

You don’t need to wonder, hun.

https://literotica.com/s/harper-s-reckoning

Em