Hitler, reincarnated

[bluntforcemama]

So I decided to take some more of those damned personality tests, and then they list famous people who have the same personality type, and guess who I am like... And to think that I'm a Jew, too. "It seems nature is not without a sense of Irony."

 

[Mistress]

Ack! Poor Myst! Gives you a major snuggles Dont listen to them sweetie! Kisses too!

 

[bluntforcemama]

So nobody's going to run and tell their mommy about this?

 

[crystalhunting]

Myst as Hitler???!! I dont think so...Hitler was an animal in a human body...a nasty predator...who loved to torture his victims.....There is NO WAY you could be like Hitler!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Silverlily]

Hitler was a psychopath with serious mental problems, don't blame the animals.

 

[Nobody Special]

Hitler was a psychopath with serious mental problems, don't blame the animals.

No I'm afraid not KM.. Look at the History books from Germany's point of view.. yes I do agree that he went a little (lot) to far. But He took a country that was being blamed for the first world war, even tho they where just helping Austria, and treated like shit by the French and the Englesh, and brought it to almost world domination in just a few years.. that my freinds makes him a military guenious.. He did what few other people could have, He brought a country to gether to fight repression from other countries and almost took over the world at the same time, and almost succeded.. Tho He made the same mistakes as Napolian, ut look at him also.. he did pretty much the same thing..

So yes Killer Muffin he did do more killing then he needed to, but look what he did for a country instead of looking at what he did to types of people.. He did bring a country together and made it rise to greatness for a short time..

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[Silverlily]

First of all, it's KITTEN EYES not Killer Muffin.

Secondly, Hilter did suffer from mental illness. It is a stereotype that those with mental illnesses are unable to be successful, many are geniuses.

And lastly, it is still not the fault of the animals. Animals lack the mental capacity for evil, Hilter did not.

 

[Nobody Special]

I Appologize for the Mistaken Identity.. And I'm humbled at your feet for that.. Kitten Eyes..

BTW who is blaming the Animals??

All that I erally said was that he was SAVIOR to his country and a Great Leader.. if he wasn't then WW2 would have been a little more different then what it was.. but yes I do not agree with the mass Genocide that he caused but I do agree with why and how he came into power.. it is very simalar to the US Revolution against England in 1776, the circumstances leading up to it was pretty much the same.. it is that one succeded and the other did not..

and yes I know that the US at that time wasn't going for the whole world domination thing.. But look at what happend in the long run.. Now the US is one of the major powers if not the biggest major power in the world.. and the people running it are, if not worse just like Hitler..

You know just like Queens Ryche has said in one of their songs..

"Religion and Sex are power plays
manipulate people for the money they pay

Selling Skin, Selling God
the numbers look the same on their Credit Cards

Polititions say no to drugs,
While we pay for wars in South America.

Fighting fire with empty words,
While the banks get fat,
the poor stay poor,
and the rich stay rich,
and the cops get paid to look away
AS THE ONE PERCENT RULES AMERICA.."

 

[cherrypop]

OKay...I'm baffled..

We went from a personality test to someone trying to in some way justify (what??) the reasonings of Hitler...or to perhaps explain his point of view. The reasoning was what? To make Hitler out to be the victim or the poor lil guy being blamed for everyone elses problems? Don't buy into that. Sorry. Can you say mass murdering freak?!?! Don't mean to come off with a 'tude. But I'm just not with you there.
ON that note..has anyone heard what was said on the evening news last week? They are saying that within a month, the first human cloning should be done. Doesn't that make anyone think of the "master race"? I mean...come on already. This sends me to thoughts of Hitler and his ideals.
Anyway..I've said my peace. *g*

 

[Problem Child]

Hitler was a psychopath with serious mental problems, don't blame the animals.

No I'm afraid not KM.. Look at the History books from Germany's point of view.. yes I do agree that he went a little (lot) to far.

A little too far? He started a war that killed over 50,000,000 people! Is that your definition of "a little too far"?

But He took a country that was being blamed for the first world war, even tho they where just helping Austria,

Sorry pal, Germany invaded France. They started it. The environment at the time was one of feirce nationalism, and unprecedented military build-up by all European nations, but someone had to cross the border, and they did. They had war plans outlining an invasion of france for at least ten or twelve years before they implemented it.

and treated like shit by the French and the Englesh, and brought it to almost world domination in just a few years..

yes, the germans were treated badly in the treaty of Versailles. Did that give Hitler the right to start WWII? Fuck no.

that my freinds makes him a military guenious..

you, my friend are obviously no military historian. Hitler had the most advanced war machine of his day, not only through his personal efforts, but largely through the efforts of his generals and scientists. Germany succeeded in dominating Europe for a relatively short period of time IN SPITE of Hitler, not because of him. Why do you think Rommel lost in the North African desert? Why do you think the Germans were surrounded and eventually destroyed at Stalingrad? Why do you think Germany and specifically Berlin was destroyed almost down to the last building, instead of signing a peace agreement months earlier when the war was obviously lost? It certainly wasn't due to the brilliance of Adolph Hitler as a military leader.

He did what few other people could have, He brought a country to gether to fight repression from other countries and almost took over the world at the same time, and almost succeded.. Tho He made the same mistakes as Napolian, ut look at him also.. he did pretty much the same thing..

Any dictator who has full control over a nation and puts its people to work building a war machine can turn an economy around. That's not a unique accomplishment. The only parallel I can see between Napoleon and Hitler is that they both over-extended themselves. The difference is that Hitler did it from the beginning. Napoleon was a true tactical genius; he beat armies much larger than his own time and time again. Hitler only lasted as long as his military might was at its pinnacle- after that Germany began losing. And most of the blame for the squandering of HItler's armies falls squarely on his shoulders.

So yes Killer Muffin he did do more killing then he needed to, but look what he did for a country instead of looking at what he did to types of people.. He did bring a country together and made it rise to greatness for a short time..

He didn't do SHIT for his country except destroy it.

[Edited by Problem Child on 03-18-2001 at 11:30 AM]

 

[cherrypop]

Hitler was a psychopath with serious mental problems, don't blame the animals.

No I'm afraid not KM.. Look at the History books from Germany's point of view.. yes I do agree that he went a little (lot) to far.

A little too far? He started a war that killed over 50,000,000 people! Is that your definition of "a little too far"?.........

Applause. Well said. Thank you!

 

[CreamyLady]

Germany's problems after World War I had a lot to do with the very bad feeling the French had for Germany BEFORE World War I -- remember the Franco-Prussian war?

Hitler was a megalomaniac with superb organizational and leadership skills, a gift for rhetoric, and a knack for making a nation in bad shape pull together. However, he did it by exalting qualities that are marginal, at best, and demonizing Jews and others.

The rebirth of Germany from the ashes of Versailles was a very short-term benefit. The long-term result, however, was appalling.

Myst, take the good parts of Hitler's personality -- he did have a few -- for what they are, and ignore the rest. Unless, of course, you have a taste for world conquest. In that case, seek professional help.

 

[Problem Child]

CL...

Germany's problems after World War I had a lot to do with the very bad feeling the French had for Germany BEFORE World War I -- remember the Franco-Prussian war?

10,000,000 dead in WWI didn't help the situation, but you have a good point.

Hitler was a megalomaniac with superb organizational and leadership skills, a gift for rhetoric, and a knack for making a nation in bad shape pull together. However, he did it by exalting qualities that are marginal, at best, and demonizing Jews and others.

I agree, AH was an organizational genius, and had a charisma that may well be unmatched by any other national leader, at least that I can think of. But militarily, he was a moron.

Thanks for your insight, CL

 

[bluntforcemama]

I just wanted to comment on the fact that Hitler was a part of my famous people that I'm like.... and that I'm Jewish. LOL... there really IS something in the air/water.

 

[Blackbich]

LOL @ Myst.

That is pretty ironic when you think about it. But you have the positive qualities in common with him, not the psychotic parts (I hope - lol). If you start thinking about master races and world domination though, please remember there are very good psychiatrists out there that will help you with that <g>.

 

[Nobody Special]

Problem Child..

May I ask you what happend to the Germans after WW1?? since I have no way of know ing how to read the history books of world..

But as I recall, the Russian front was not taken by the Germans just like by the same fact that Napolian didn't take it.. The weather was the biggest factor on why Hitler didn't take Stalingrad..

Now for Germany Invading France, YES that is what happend but not untill poland was invaded.. BTW do you know waht happend when Germany Invaded FRance?? Well France had to sign their surrender to Germany, WHERE you ask in the same rail car and same place that Germany had to do the same thing for WW1.

Now Why did Germany Invade France?? Because the French were being BIG ASS ASSHOLES and taking from Germany what Germany was making, kind of like TAXING them for No reason other then to make money from them and having the Germans pay for the rebuilding of all of the dammage from WW1.

I do know that Hitler was Kicking ass in Euroup and North Africa Before the U.S. Got involved, Thanks to Japan, and fucking up Hitlers plans..

But since I don't know about World History, I guess maybe you should tell me more about it.. But please try to look at it as History from all points and not just the one point that you have placed so far..

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[crystalhunting]

pssst...it was General Montgomery{British General} that beat Rommel in North Africa........and the Germans invaded Belgium to get into France...Where were the Belgiums people at fault?...and for that matter...What did the Polish do to invite an invasion?..thats what started WW2....and perhaps it was right for the Germans to bully Czecoslavakia for a big part of the country?..What did the Czechs do to warrant that?...and i suspose the concentration camps were justified as well?...NOT!....You know the Swiss STILL have the procceds from the Nazi regime,valueables taken by force from Jews,Gypsys,and other undesireable groups..just before they were gassed or burnt alive.Whatever percieved wrongs the Germans had...does NOT justify what was done.When us and the British finally reconquered Europe...WE DIDNT DO SUCH HORRIBLE OR DISGUSTING THINGS TO THE CONQUERED.

 

[Iris]

Um...anyway....

Can I ask you to post the link to the test, if you still have it? Just wondering who I come up as.

 

[crystalhunting]

Sure Iris....
http://personality.familywonder.com/fwperson/

 

[Problem Child]

Yes, you ought to do a little reading...

Problem Child..

May I ask you what happend to the Germans after WW1?? since I have no way of know ing how to read the history books of world..

You should try to learn. But I'll repeat what I said in my first post- the Germans were victims of the Versailles treaty. That still doesn't give them any reason whatsoever to invade Europe twenty years later.

But as I recall, the Russian front was not taken by the Germans just like by the same fact that Napolian didn't take it.. The weather was the biggest factor on why Hitler didn't take Stalingrad..

You are missing the big picture. The entire invasion of Russia was folly. And whose idea was it? Hitler's. The German general staff performed brilliantly, until the were surrounded at Stalingrad. Why? Because Hitler would not let his generals perform tactical retreats when it was necessary. The weather was a big factor. Why? Because Hitler insisted attacking through the dead of winter. The Germans did succeed in capturing vast areas of the Russian steppe, but could not hold it. Why? Because Hitler wasted army after army in a foolish campaign.

Now for Germany Invading France, YES that is what happend but not untill poland was invaded.. BTW do you know waht happend when Germany Invaded FRance?? Well France had to sign their surrender to Germany, WHERE you ask in the same rail car and same place that Germany had to do the same thing for WW1.

*scratches head* ...And these facts are important to your argument that Hitler was a military genius....how? I fail to see any connection.

Now Why did Germany Invade France?? Because the French were being BIG ASS ASSHOLES and taking from Germany what Germany was making, kind of like TAXING them for No reason other then to make money from them and having the Germans pay for the rebuilding of all of the dammage from WW1.

Hmmm, the French were big assholes...you don't say? Well, guess what Einstein, they're STILL big assholes. Now, how does that give your hero Hitler any fucking iota of a reason to invade France? Hell, if being an assholian state was reason enough to invade, we'd all be killing Texans right now.

I do know that Hitler was Kicking ass in Euroup and North Africa Before the U.S. Got involved, Thanks to Japan, and fucking up Hitlers plans..

Hitler wasn't kicking ass, his generals were. Again you're under the false impression that the little corporal knew something about how to conduct a war.
I asked you before why Rommel was eventually beaten in the Desert. You didn't aswer, so I'll assume you don't know. Rommel kicked the British, and Americans when they arrived, all over North Africa for two years, with, in most cases, less than half the men and equipment. His tactics and fearlessness were revolutionary. He was only beaten by Monty after he had only depleted all of his supplies of ammo and fuel. Why? Because Hitler was giving his silly little war on the Eastern front first priority, thereby depriving his best commander of a fair chance at victory.

But since I don't know about World History, I guess maybe you should tell me more about it.. But please try to look at it as History from all points and not just the one point that you have placed so far..
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I just did.

 

[crystalhunting]

Well said Problem Child...with one exception..not all texans are annoying...otherwise I agree.

 

[Problem Child]

Except for KidRock1. Dallas' original Pimp Daddy my ass.

 

[crystalhunting]

Problem child I wasnt saying KIDROCK1 isnt annoying...just that not all Texans are annoying..I'm from Texas and frankly i find the boy to be crass and disgusting.

 

[Problem Child]

Crystal, relax...we're agreeing. Enjoy it while it lasts.

 

[crystalhunting]

Okiedokie...sounds good to me...