Historical Crushes

[Explaura]

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[JamesSD]

When I was in high school my good friend Miko had a gigantic crush on Shakespeare. She collected his works, knew everything about him, talked about him constantly.

You do realize there was a character with this exact quirk in the movie "10 things I Hate About You"?

 

[Guest]

If I could pick a historical figure, it would have to be Lord Byron. I would really like to know all about him from his own lips.

 

[slyc_willie]

Anais Nin, and I doubt Henry Miller would object, especially if he got to watch.

Aside from her . . .

Jean D'Arc comes to mind, although she was just a kid. Something about the whole zealousness and passion for a cause just turns me on.

Marie Antoinette, before she meet the King.

And, more recently, Marlene Dietrich in her prime . . . and what a prime that was . . . .

 

[Misty_Morning]

I have (and had) an enormous crush on someone who recently pased away. I will forever love her, that's all I'm going to say.

 

[Equinoxe]

I'll have to consider the question, I'm not wholly sure. There are a number of historical personages that I admire, but I don't know about historical crush.

Marie Antoinette, before she meet the King.

That would make her no older than 15.

 

[cumallday]

Johnathan Swift and George Orwell

 

[HeyNonnyNonny]

I don't think its anything to worry about, or anything particularly weird. I could probably list twenty or thirty.

Initially, let's stick to these two

 

[bronzeage]

I would like to have met Talullah Bankhead. Smart, witty, beautiful, and had a reputation for being insatiatible.

 

[scheherazade_79]

Joan of Arc, Mata Hari, Emmeline Pankhurst

Does Marilyn Monroe count? If so, her at the top of the list

 

[slyc_willie]

I'll have to consider the question, I'm not wholly sure. There are a number of historical personages that I admire, but I don't know about historical crush.



That would make her no older than 15.

Have to remember the context of the time period.

 

[Equinoxe]

Have to remember the context of the time period.

I am more than aware of the context of the time period (which is not relevant to the topic), I just found it odd that you specifically commented on age with regard to Jeanne d'Arc and did not with Marie Antoinette.

 

[Dr_Strabismus]

I like this thread topic, which is why I also start one of these from time to time.

A really good biography can get me longing for a time machine. Mind you, so do a lot of things.

I only read biography nowadays, and most of my serious writing is either biography or autobiography. When you read a lot of it, you realize that biography is fiction -- so is autobiography.

My crushes are many, and the living objects of my crushes are usually reincarnations of the dead ones.

I don't want to make this a long post, and I have a lot to say on the subject of historical crushes, so I won't name names.

But right now this post above really struck me:

I have (and had) an enormous crush on someone who recently pased away. I will forever love her, that's all I'm going to say.

It's a serendipitous example (I think) of accidental rhyming, which usually engenders laughter in me, but not in this case.

 

[Trinique_Fire]

Does Pam Grier count?

 

[Dr_Strabismus]

...Anais Nin....

...Joan Of Arc...

I think Anais Nin must have been a bit of a nudnick. That very adolescent nymphomania would quickly jar.

I have a soft spot for witches and phrophetesses too. The mythological Joan Of Arc is attractive, but I suspect it's the Bill And Ted version we're both thinking of.

 

[Rumple Foreskin]

Can't think of any historical character I've ever had a crush on. As for the "going out" part, I'd have to say Helen of Troy and Cleopatra just to find out what all the fuss was about.

If I could have a third choice, it would have to be the woman immortalized by Tom Lehrer. Here is his introduction to, ALMA

"Last December 13th, (1964) there appeared in the newspapers the juiciest, spiciest, raciest obituary it has ever been my pleasure to read. It was that of a lady named Alma Mahler Gropius Werfel, who had, in her lifetime, managed to acquire as lovers practically all of the top creative men in central Europe. And, among these lovers, who were listed in the obituary, by the way, which is what made it so interesting, there were three whom she went so far as to marry: One of the leading composers of the day, Gustav Mahler, composer of Das Lied von der Erde and other light classics; one of the leading architects, Walter Gropius, of the Bauhaus school of design; and one of the leading writers, Franz Werfel, author of the Song of Bernadette and other masterpieces."

Rumple Foreskin

 

[cloudy]

I would've loved to have been able to talk to King John (yes, I know he was a nasty guy) - he was SO politically savvy.

In the same vein, Queen Elizabeth I.

 

[Jenny_Jackson]

Ankhaenpaamen, totally tragic figure. Her letter to the Hittite King begging for one of his sons for a husband was heart breaking.

"My husband is dead and I have no son. There is no one amoung all of Egypt worthy. You have many sons. Send me one of yours and he shall sit at my side as King. Of this I beg you."

Then she was lost in history, probably murdered by Horemheb. There is even a stele in the British Museum that relates her prayer from her second husband's funeral -

"I clutch at your feet, my love,
I beg through my tears,
Leave me not.
For without you I am lost."

 

[Aurora Black]

A few years back, I saw a documentary on King Tut where scientists examined his remains to determine the cause of death. They also did a facial reconstruction with clay, and I thought he was extremely fuckable at the time. But now National Geographic has done a 3D one and the spell is broken.

 

[Liar]

For brains, imagination, wit and ballsyness:

Hipparchia of Maroneia
Giambattista Vico
Oscar Wilde

 

[Dr_Strabismus]

I've just read the biography of the extraordinary Mary Ann Girling, founder of the "New Forest Shakers". Meeting her would be both a fascinating and somewhat terrifying experience.

 

[Grushenka]

I would like to have been one of the more enduring conquests of Alexander Pushkin and Giacomo Casanova. By enduring I mean more than a one nochi or notte stand.

 

[Jenny_Jackson]

A few years back, I saw a documentary on King Tut where scientists examined his remains to determine the cause of death. They also did a facial reconstruction with clay, and I thought he was extremely fuckable at the time. But now National Geographic has done a 3D one and the spell is broken.

Aurora,

The XVIII dynasty Royals were physically deformed. Amenhotep II's mummy is never shown other than the head. The "realistic" tomb paintings of Amenhotep IV (Tutahnkamen's Brother) show a distended face, overly large, femine hips and stomach. Both Amenhotep IV and his grandfather, AI, also show the back of the head extended and enlarged like a hydrocyphalic. According to Howard Carter's account, Tut seems to have suffered from the same genetic deformities. Also, he was only 16 or 17 when he died, as I recall (8 when he assended the throne plus an 8 year reign). Some Egyptologists extend the age to 18 and in one case, 20, but that is unlikely unless he was co-regient with Semkare, another brother which would mean there were three rulers at once and that's not likely.

Semkare was another XVIII dynasty oddball. He is known to have been co-regient with Amenhotep IV. The two appearantly were a gay couple. In the end Semkare was entombed by Amenhotep in a female sarcophagas in a feminine posture (right arm over his chest, left arm at his side) as if he were "Queen of Egypt".

Tut was married to his brothers 2nd wife and appearantly, for a time in Al Amarna, lived with his aunt, Nefrititi. There is some evidence that Nefrititi was also his lover after she split with Amenhotpe IV, but that cannot be proven.

All in all, the Royals of that period were an odd group.

Amenhotep IV and Nefrititi http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l27/Jenny_Jackson/300px-Aten_disk1.jpg

Amenhotep is wearing the "Blue Crown". Note the odd backward tilt.

 

[Aurora Black]

Aurora,

The XVIII dynasty Royals were physically deformed. Amenhotep II's mummy is never shown other than the head. The "realistic" tomb paintings of Amenhotep IV (Tutahnkamen's Brother) show a distended face, overly large, femine hips and stomach. Both Amenhotep IV and his grandfather, AI, also show the back of the head extended and enlarged like a hydrocyphalic. According to Howard Carter's account, Tut seems to have suffered from the same genetic deformities. Also, he was only 16 or 17 when he died, as I recall (8 when he assended the throne plus an 8 year reign). Some Egyptologists extend the age to 18 and in one case, 20, but that is unlikely unless he was co-regient with Semkare, another brother which would mean there were three rulers at once and that's not likely.

Semkare was another XVIII dynasty oddball. He is known to have been co-regient with Amenhotep IV. The two appearantly were a gay couple. In the end Semkare was entombed by Amenhotep in a female sarcophagas in a feminine posture (right arm over his chest, left arm at his side) as if he were "Queen of Egypt".

Tut was married to his brothers 2nd wife and appearantly, for a time in Al Amarna, lived with his aunt, Nefrititi. There is some evidence that Nefrititi was also his lover after she split with Amenhotpe IV, but that cannot be proven.

All in all, the Royals of that period were an odd group.

Amenhotep IV and Nefrititi http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l27/Jenny_Jackson/300px-Aten_disk1.jpg

Amenhotep is wearing the "Blue Crown". Note the odd backward tilt.

Inbreeding. Yummy.

 

[Guest]

This isn't a crush, but if I could take a time machine back in time, I'd love to have gone to the prison where Ted Bundy was incarcerated and just sat and talked to him. He was a sick and pathetic human, but his theories about other killers in time were amazing.