Hillary, Progressive or....?

[KingOrfeo]

Commie Cunt....

Who, Clinton?! If only! She's a Wall-Street-worshiping neoliberal just like Bill and Barack.

 

[BotanyBoy]

Commie Cunt....

LOL either you don't know what a commie is or you don't know anything about (R)odham.

She has zero interest in doing anything for the people of this country.

The only thing she cares about is getting her campaign contributors paid at everyone's expense so she can keep getting paid herself.

Just like Obama and most of Congress.

 

[JackLuis]

Considering the only thing between us and Clinton v Trump, is a Seventy-something Socialist and the Youth Vote, we must seriously consider the consequences of that contest, if we are to plan for the next Administration's effects on our lives.

CvT= C- Clinton wins but has a Republican Congress? Will Mitch the Bitch just say Hell NO to the President?

CvT= C+ Clinton breaks the hold in the Senate and has just a weak majority opposition in the House?

CvT= C++ Clinton rides a clean sweep of the House and Senate seats as the Democrats, mobilized by a Progressive Popular movement crush the Teahaditst insurgency. With a strong Majority what havoc will Hillary reap?

CvT= T Holy Fuck! The end of Representative Democracy as the "Good Old Boy' cartel takes over!

Thoughts folks?

 

[BotanyBoy]

Considering the only thing between us and Clinton v Trump, is a Seventy-something Socialist and the Youth Vote, we must seriously consider the consequences of that contest, if we are to plan for the next Administration's effects on our lives.

CvT= C- Clinton wins but has a Republican Congress? Will Mitch the Bitch just say Hell NO to the President?

CvT= C+ Clinton breaks the hold in the Senate and has just a weak majority opposition in the House?

CvT= C++ Clinton rides a clean sweep of the House and Senate seats as the Democrats, mobilized by a Progressive Popular movement crush the Teahaditst insurgency. With a strong Majority what havoc will Hillary reap?

CvT= T Holy Fuck! The end of Representative Democracy as the "Good Old Boy' cartel takes over!

Thoughts folks?

1) Clinton will never ride a progressive movement....she could be C++ and much like Obama she will let the "Good Old Boy" cartel fuck America up the ass as hard as ever. She is the "good old boy" cartels choice.


2) I don't think T will be any worse than C as far as letting the 'GOB' cartel fuck America. Hell he stands a decent chance of doing better in that department.

 

[AlwaysHungry]

Thoughts folks?

If Clinton wins, it doesn't really matter what sort of congress you get. The groundhog will wake, see his shadow, and it will be another 4-year installment of the Bush-Obama disease, pantomime battles over social issues with a behind the scenes consensus that we will continue to desperately bully the rest of the world, hoping to exact some sort of tribute for our dying economy.

Trump is a vulgar buffoon, but the neo-cons fear him; they don't feel that they can rely upon his enthusiasm for more senseless violence. That kindles an odd hope in me. I won't be voting for him, though.

 

[sr71plt]

CvT= C- Clinton wins but has a Republican Congress? Will Mitch the Bitch just say Hell NO to the President?

I think this is what we're going to get, but I think the difference between what we've had with this is that Clinton won't spend six years thinking she can win the "just say no" opposition over. She'll confront, publicly point fingers at it, and scheme around it from the get go. That has more of a chance of moving the dial, I think, that Obama's approach for most of his term had.

 

[JackLuis]

I think this is what we're going to get, but I think the difference between what we've had with this is that Clinton won't spend six years thinking she can win the "just say no" opposition over. She'll confront, publicly point fingers at it, and scheme around it from the get go. That has more of a chance of moving the dial, I think, that Obama's approach for most of his term had.

Probably this will be the case. I was holding out optimistically, but the realist thinks you are correct. Clinton will make the GOP'ers squirm as she uses the power of the Presidency. I always wondered why Obama let the GOP push him around but never retaliated. Holding up Transportation projects in Kentucky or Texas. Moving the troops in Fort Knox to Colorado, or things like that.

If Clinton wins, it doesn't really matter what sort of congress you get. -
Trump is a vulgar buffoon, but the neo-cons fear him; they don't feel that they can rely upon his enthusiasm for more senseless violence. That kindles an odd hope in me. I won't be voting for him, though.

I think the Congress will make a great difference to her chances to show just how progressive she is. Hillz will at least try to "DO SOMETHING." I might not like what she tries, but Hillz will try to reason with Congress for a few months, then the knives will come out and many pork barrels will be overturned.

If we end up with Trump, I have no idea what the hell will happen. We might end up with John Bolton as Sec State!

1) Clinton will never ride a progressive movement....she could be C++ and much like Obama she will let the "Good Old Boy" cartel fuck America up the ass as hard as ever. She is the "good old boy" cartels choice.

2) I don't think T will be any worse than C as far as letting the 'GOB' cartel fuck America. Hell he stands a decent chance of doing better in that department.

I agree Hillz will never LEAD a Progressive movement, but she could benefit from the Bernie Bro's cleaning out Congress, unlikely but possible.

Trump is truly a wild card. Will he allow himself to be a puppet like Bush or Obama, having his strings jerked by the neo-con establishment? We shall see if he can sink Hillary in the General. His odds are improving in this regard as people realize that Hilz is the Demonrats choice for Queen.

 

[BotanyBoy]

I agree Hillz will never LEAD a Progressive movement, but she could benefit from the Bernie Bro's cleaning out Congress, unlikely but possible.

Fair N'uff.

Trump is truly a wild card. Will he allow himself to be a puppet like Bush or Obama, having his strings jerked by the neo-con establishment? We shall see if he can sink Hillary in the General. His odds are improving in this regard as people realize that Hilz is the Demonrats choice for Queen.

He's certainly made things interesting.

Wild Card vs same ol' Plutocracy is becoming more of a hard choice.

Like I said though I'll likely just not make it and stay home instead.

 

[JackLuis]

Latest Polling shows....

Trump loses New Jersey to Clinton by 11%

Trump loses to Bernie by 24%

General Election Trump loses to Hillary by 3 or wins by 2?

General Election vs Bernie Trump loses by 15%!

 

[AlwaysHungry]

General Election Trump loses to Hillary by 3 or wins by 2?

I think I may have a simple, elegant solution that will save us the expense and dramah of a big election battle. Trump simply throws his support to Hillary, and then pays her to build his wall and enact whatever other lunatic policies that his vanity demands. After all, Trump has endorsed her before, and he can probably afford her going rate.

 

[patient1]

How about this?

Hillary and Trump go so negative in the fall that they convince 40% of the people that they both suck. In a bad way. Millions refuse to vote in protest.
Libertarians and Greens soak up enough Republicans and Bernie youth to establish their parties with over 5% each.

Trump's words on women lose the GOP majority in the senate. He also loses the Popular vote.

Hillary gets a plurality of the popular vote.

Nobody gets 270 electoral votes, but Trump has more.

It gets decided by the New House who still holds a slim GOP margin. The House is
conflicted, and it's not a straight party vote, but a couple Congressmen fear rioting in their districts if Trump doesn't win. Enough to put him in the Trump House at 1600 Trumpylvania Ave.

 

[BoyNextDoor]

Drumpf getting the presidency as the result of an election that was put in the hands of the House of Representatives is not all that far fetched of an idea.

 

[BotanyBoy]

Anything but Clinton...Bush.... or any other things from that pool of scum.

I'd rather see a dumb ass turd chasing plumber in office than any more of that scum.

A god damn Labrador would be an improvement.

Rover for POTUS....
http://www.humorhound.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/yellow-lab-wearing-round-sunglasses.jpg

 

[renard_ruse]

I don't understand with ALL the Clinton Crime Family scandals, that the e-mail server is the one the media is actually making a big deal about.

Don't get me wrong, anything that we can get to stick on the teflon Crime Family is good, but that seems to me one of the least serious of the dozens of scandals involving the Crime Family since 1992 (and earlier).

The Vince Foster murder, for example, would seem a bit more serious. Vince Foster Murder Denial is rearing its head again on the internet. Loud, angry, liberal voices angrily denying Foster was murdered and even name calling against those who acknowledge the Foster murder. I hope Vince Foster's ghost haunts these turds.

 

[JackLuis]

Robert Reich: It’s time for Clinton and Sanders supporters to swallow

sr71plt will agree with this.

First, my advice to Clinton supporters: Don’t try to drum Bernie Sanders out of the race before Hillary Clinton officially gets the nomination (if she in fact does get it).

Some of you say Bernie should bow out because he has no chance of getting the nomination, and his continuing candidacy is harming Hillary Clinton’s chances.

It’s true that Bernie’s chances are slim, but it’s inaccurate to say he has no chance. If you consider only pledged delegates, who have been selected in caucuses and primaries, he’s not all that far behind Hillary Clinton. And the upcoming primary in California – the nation’s most populous state—could possibly alter Sanders’s and Clinton’s relative tallies.

My calculation doesn’t include so-called “superdelegates”—Democratic office holders and other insiders who haven’t been selected through primaries and caucuses. But in this year of anti-establishment fury, it would be unwise for Hillary Clinton to rely on superdelegates to get her over the finish line.

Sanders should stay in the race also because he has attracted a large number of young people and independents. Their passion, excitement, and enthusiasm are critically important to Hillary Clinton’s success, if she’s the nominee, as well the success of other Democrats this year, and, more fundamentally, to the future of American politics.

Both of my morsels of advice may be hard to swallow. Many Hillary supporters don’t want Bernie to keep campaigning, and many Bernie supporters don’t want to root for Hillary if she gets the nomination.

But swallow it you must—not just for the good of the Democratic Party, but for the good of the nation.

"Oh God But she's so slimey."

 

[BotanyBoy]

"Oh God But she's so slimey."

Too slimey, fuck her and fuck the "By the 1% for the 1%" party...I mean DNC.


I hope Trump SKULL FUCKS her in the General.

 

[JackLuis]

I'm keeping an eye on New Jersey. Hillary is leading Bernie but the margin is narrowing.

Quinnipiac
5/10 - 5/16
696 Likely Voters - Democrat
C=54 S=40

NJ has 126 pledge delegates so if they split

C=68 S=57 delegates. Net C=+11

Looks like in California the split is about 50-40 with 8-10% undecided as yet?
Cali=475 delegates split 50-40 C=238 S=190 (+ ? 47 up for Grabs) If Bernie can do better than 40% he has a chance to edge up on Hilary. He's 270 behind now.

On the other hand Hillary needs 613 more delegates to reach her goal w/o Supers. She may need to call in her establishment credit and bow to the Dark Lords once again!

 

[phrodeau]

I don't understand with ALL the Clinton Crime Family scandals, that the e-mail server is the one the media is actually making a big deal about.

Don't get me wrong, anything that we can get to stick on the teflon Crime Family is good, but that seems to me one of the least serious of the dozens of scandals involving the Crime Family since 1992 (and earlier).

The Vince Foster murder, for example, would seem a bit more serious. Vince Foster Murder Denial is rearing its head again on the internet. Loud, angry, liberal voices angrily denying Foster was murdered and even name calling against those who acknowledge the Foster murder. I hope Vince Foster's ghost haunts these turds.

Foster was a suicide. Anybody who tells you different is selling something.

 

[JackLuis]

Hillary gets presidential and points out Trump is a short fingered dumb ass.

With Hillary ahead of Trump by ~4% nationally, she need to drop the hammer every day on Drumpf.

 

[NeverEndingMe]

at least Hillary has balls, not like that cuckold obama

 

[sr71plt]

at least Hillary has balls, not like that cuckold obama

You are deliciously inconsistent in your impotent ranting. On another thread, you've posted that she doesn't have balls. Are you aware that she doesn't give a shit what you think? Nor do I, for that matter. Just an impotent whiner on an irrelevant discussion board.

 

[JackLuis]

VIDEO – State Department files case against Clinton Foundation, calls it ‘Criminal Enterprise’.

James Comey and The FBI will present a recommendation to Loretta Lynch, Attorney General of the Department of Justice, that includes a compelling argument that the Clinton Foundation is an ongoing criminal enterprise engaged in money laundering and soliciting bribes in exchange for political, policy and legislative favors to individuals, corporations and even governments both foreign and domestic.

“The New York Times examined Bill Clinton’s relationship with a Canadian mining financier, Frank Giustra, who has donated millions of dollars to the Clinton Foundation and sits on its board. Clinton, the story suggests, helped Giustra’s company secure a lucrative ‘uranium mining’ deal in Kazakhstan and in return received “a flow of cash” to the Clinton Foundation, including previously undisclosed donations from the company’s chairman totaling $2.35 million.”



Originally, James Comey had indicated that the investigation into Hillary’s private email server was to be completed by October of 2015. As more and more evidence surfaced, however, this initial date kept getting pushed back as the criminal investigation has expanded above and beyond violating State Department regulations. In fact, it now then included questions about espionage, perjury and influence peddling.

Here’s what we know: Tens of millions of dollars donated to the Clinton Foundation was funneled to the organization through a Canadian shell company which has made tracing the donors nearly impossible. Less than 10% of donations to the Foundation have been released to charitable organizations and $2 million has been traced back to long time Bill Clinton friend Julie McMahon (known as “The Energizer”, google it!). When she found out there was an official investigation into Her private email server, Hillary Clinton instructed her IT professional to delete over 30,000 emails and cloud backups of her emails older than 30 days at both Platte River Networks and Datto, Inc. The FBI has also recovered the majority, if not all, of Hillary’s deleted emails and are putting together a strong case against her for attempting to cover up illegal and illicit activities.

What! The Queen of Mean was double dealing? Or was it jut Slick Willy selling her ass-istance all over the world! Will the truth come out or will this too be obfuscated into more political noise as the Empire consumes itself?

Really this could be the "House of Cards" written across the pages of billions of FacePages! Imagine Hillary back peddling and selling Bill down the river to keep her skirts clean?

 

[JackLuis]

Clinton reportedly gave economic inequality speech in $12K Armani jacket

Hillary Clinton gave a speech on economic inequality in April while wearing pricey duds that caught the attention of eagle-eyed fashionistas — particularly a Giorgio Armani jacket valued at $12,495.

The former secretary of state earned enough delegates Monday to become the presumptive Democratic nominee, but it was her expensive attire that landed her in Facebook’s top-trending news stories Tuesday, and her seemingly mixed message on economic equality wasn’t lost on readers.

“I’ve heard a lot of Hillary supporters saying that we should trust her in terms of addressing income inequality and regulating Wall Street,” one Facebook user, Michael Sammartino, wrote Tuesday. “I’ve tried really, really hard to get to that point but, words only go so far. Taking donations from corporations and members of the 1 percent, refusing to release transcripts from her paid Wall Street speeches, and wearing a jacket that’s valued at more than double my entire net worth while giving a speech on income inequality goes to show where her priorities really are.”

Oops, another 1%er screw up. Pretty soon we'll hear about the "Checkers Speech."

 

[sr71plt]

Oops, another 1%er screw up. Pretty soon we'll hear about the "Checkers Speech."

If you had read in on the GB, you would have already heard it a couple of times in this context.

 

[JackLuis]

Hillary on Clinton Foundation Disclosures: "Were There One Or Two Instances That Slipped Through The Cracks? Yes"

A slippery crack in her foundation?

Anderson Cooper presses presumptive Democratic presidential nominee Hillary Clinton on what former President Bill Clinton's role in the Clinton Foundation will be if she becomes president. The CNN anchor asked Clinton whether he would divest himself of his role.

Clinton would not give a definite answer, but cited campaign contributions as an example of an organization you give money to but don't expect kickbacks.

"But some big donors clearly want the association with you or your husband that being linked to the foundation gives them. As president, obviously it's vital that you or certainly your husband not appear in any way compromised. I guess, have you considered the idea of him stepping down?" Cooper asked.

"Again, I'm not going to consider anything until we see what the circumstances are. But let me just point out that people give lots of money to presidential campaigns, don't they?" Clinton answered.

"They give lots of money to political parties as well," Clinton also said. "So, you know, that is money that goes directly to support political activities of candidates, money that has been given to the foundation goes to support humanitarian work."

"Everybody's on the take Anderson, I thought you knew that?"