Hillary is less trustworthy

[Boxlicker101]

It's still a long time before even the primary elections, but Hillary is being looked on as less honest and trustworthy. http://www.cnn.com/2015/06/17/politics/poll-2016-elections-hillary-clinton-trustworthy/

At this rate, she may end up as being less trusted than even Snidely Whiplash.

 

[Aglaopheme]

It's still a long time before even the primary elections, but Hillary is being looked on as less honest and trustworthy. http://www.cnn.com/2015/06/17/politics/poll-2016-elections-hillary-clinton-trustworthy/

At this rate, she may end up as being less trusted than even Snidely Whiplash.

And how trustworthy do they find any politician?

 

[BotanyBoy]

And how trustworthy do they find any politician?

Oh some a far cry more than her.

Hillary is a total fucking shit bag.....shit....bag. And we all know it. Thus the GOP feeding frenzy. After 8 years of Obama she's the best we've got right now sounding lame as fuck and they are just fighting over who gets to have fun CRUSHING her everywhere but CA and NY.

 

[Sean Renaud]

I honestly don't think she's that much worse than the average politician. Though maybe my bar is a little low. We'll see how this turns out, I don't expect a crushing. I expect us to have another Bush election where we have to stay up until fucking one the goddamn morning waiting for Florida and/or Ohio to finish counting every single goddamn vote.

 

[phrodeau]

I honestly don't think she's that much worse than the average politician. Though maybe my bar is a little low. We'll see how this turns out, I don't expect a crushing. I expect us to have another Bush election where we have to stay up until fucking one the goddamn morning waiting for Florida and/or Ohio to finish counting every single goddamn vote.

That's why the bars are open on Election Day.

 

[sr71plt]

I'm happy to see that Hillary is still scaring Box shitless.

 

[Sean Renaud]

That's why the bars are open on Election Day.

Yeah, but I kinda liked those Obama elections where I by eight o'clock it wasn't a matter of who won or not, it was a matter of how many bets I'd won with my precision. Got I love Nate Silver and that Republicans don't believe in him. I have a sneaking suspicion he might make me about a year from now though. We'll see though.

I'm happy to see that Hillary is still scaring Box shitless.

At this point its starting to be more sad than funny. I don't know what the country is going to do if Hillary wins.

 

[phrodeau]

If she wins, I bet she pardons Bill.

 

[sr71plt]

At this point its starting to be more sad than funny. I don't know what the country is going to do if Hillary wins.

Maybe the crazies will at least get off the race thing and move to the barefoot and in the kitchen thing.

 

[Sean Renaud]

Maybe the crazies will at least get off the race thing and move to the barefoot and in the kitchen thing.

Maybe. But this time they had more warning time and Hillary isn't the unknown that Obama was at the time. With Obama it was impossible pretend it wasn't about race and they only had a few months to work on the "I don't hate him because of his race, I hate him because of actions he hasn't taken yet!" line. They've had literal decades to work on Hillary.

 

[mark_j]

Yep. Its definitely shaping up to be a "hold your nose" year.

 

[sr71plt]

Justified by the take-no-personal-responsibility electorate.

 

[RjThoughts]

And those GOP candidates who refuse to call the Charleston Shootings a hate crime are more so?

 

[Sean Renaud]

^^^ The GOP isn't pretending this isn't a hate crime. They are claiming the persecuted minority goes by the name of Christians. Does anybody have any lions and or tigers? Cus if we're gonna do this we should do it right. Get Simba and Sheer Khan and throw in some yummy hypocrites.


Every year is a "hold your nose" year and every year will always be that way. It's not a take no responsibility electorate either. It's a few things piled together. First most people aren't radicals. Most of the (liberals) on this site would love for Warren or Bernie to become president. But realistically that's not happening because even amongst the Democrat party they and we by extension are fucking radicals and we need to acknowledge it. And for the most part we do and we understand why this happens. (The right on the other hand is in complete denial on why RINOs keep winning their primaries and they blame the mainstream media.)

Which isn't entirely not to blame but I've no clue how you'd unfuck it in the real world. The average person is aware of their Governor, their Senators, maybe their reps and a few smattered big names from around the country. I could look it up of course but don't ask me who the governor or Maryland is or who the Senators from Montana are. Because I don't know. Throw in your Ben Carsons and Hermain Cains (chosen because they are both not politicians nothing to do with their party affiliation or race) and you've got too many people to keep straight in your head. Which is why you get people like Hillary and Jeb. They are both known and yes the MSM is why they are known but lets face it brand names sell even sans the MSM entirely they'd still stand out from the packs they are currently a part of.

 

[sr71plt]

And those GOP candidates who refuse to call the Charleston Shootings a hate crime are more so?

Are more so what? Which candidates are those (this isn't a challenge; it's wanting to see them named).

The shooter was under a felony indictment, by the way--but not convicted yet, so it didn't show on his gun application. Think we can at least get the NRA and friends on board with extending the "no buy" to those under a felony indictment--until they are cleared?

 

[RjThoughts]

And those GOP candidates who refuse to call the Charleston Shootings a hate crime are more so?

Are more so what? Which candidates are those (this isn't a challenge; it's wanting to see them named).

Trustworthy

 

[RjThoughts]

^^^ The GOP isn't pretending this isn't a hate crime. They are claiming the persecuted minority goes by the name of Christians. Does anybody have any lions and or tigers? Cus if we're gonna do this we should do it right. Get Simba and Sheer Khan and throw in some yummy hypocrites.


Every year is a "hold your nose" year and every year will always be that way. It's not a take no responsibility electorate either. It's a few things piled together. First most people aren't radicals. Most of the (liberals) on this site would love for Warren or Bernie to become president. But realistically that's not happening because even amongst the Democrat party they and we by extension are fucking radicals and we need to acknowledge it. And for the most part we do and we understand why this happens. (The right on the other hand is in complete denial on why RINOs keep winning their primaries and they blame the mainstream media.)

Which isn't entirely not to blame but I've no clue how you'd unfuck it in the real world. The average person is aware of their Governor, their Senators, maybe their reps and a few smattered big names from around the country. I could look it up of course but don't ask me who the governor or Maryland is or who the Senators from Montana are. Because I don't know. Throw in your Ben Carsons and Hermain Cains (chosen because they are both not politicians nothing to do with their party affiliation or race) and you've got too many people to keep straight in your head. Which is why you get people like Hillary and Jeb. They are both known and yes the MSM is why they are known but lets face it brand names sell even sans the MSM entirely they'd still stand out from the packs they are currently a part of.

That's a lion and a tiger for those who don't watch Disney cartoons.

 

[Sean Renaud]

And I spelled it wrong it's 'Shere' Khan not 'Sheer'.

 

[lovecraft68]

^^^ The GOP isn't pretending this isn't a hate crime. They are claiming the persecuted minority goes by the name of Christians.

I think the killers quote of wanting to start a civil war takes away the angle of this being anti christian, it was a race crime through and through. That is backed by some of the things his fellow students and friends are claiming he said about Blacks (not christians)

 

[lovecraft68]

On the topic...I will say Hilary is less trust worthy than she was in 2008 in the primary.

 

[curiousbuttaken]

It's still a long time before even the primary elections, but Hillary is being looked on as less honest and trustworthy. http://www.cnn.com/2015/06/17/politics/poll-2016-elections-hillary-clinton-trustworthy/

At this rate, she may end up as being less trusted than even Snidely Whiplash.

You'd trust anyone on the other side more? Weird.

 

[Sean Renaud]

I think the killers quote of wanting to start a civil war takes away the angle of this being anti christian, it was a race crime through and through. That is backed by some of the things his fellow students and friends are claiming he said about Blacks (not christians)

I'm not disagreeing (though while clearly a racist I think this was an isolated nutter unworthy of the attention he's getting. If anything I'm while atheist through and through impressed as hell by families saying I forgive you. I would talk at least 50% less shit about Christians if this was normal behavior amongst that bunch and not something odd.) but the only GOP person I've heard commenting directly was Rick Santorum and he claimed indirectly that this was an attack on Christianity and never once mentions race.

I'm not claiming I'm not partisan but I try to keep it real and even call out lefties when they say something that doesn't smell right.

 

[Boxlicker101]

You'd trust anyone on the other side more? Weird.

I don't trust any politician, but some are more crooked than others. I consider Hillary to be a crook on the level of Boss Tweed or Richard Dailey or Huey Long.

 

[sr71plt]

It would be interesting to see if even Rick Santorum readjusts his position on this over the next couple of days. The shooter is not being shy about why he did it. If Santorum is smart, he'll just claim "arrival of new information." But it's really astonishing how few politicians will use "arrival of new information," even though that's a very sensible reason for changing positions on almost anything. The old "flip-flopper" characterization would fall apart in a minute if folks just met it with a "oh, you want someone who sticks to his guns regardless of a change in the information available?" We've already had such a president, and it didn't work out too well.

 

[Sean Renaud]

It would be interesting to see if even Rick Santorum readjusts his position on this over the next couple of days. The shooter is not being shy about why he did it. If Santorum is smart, he'll just claim "arrival of new information." But it's really astonishing how few politicians will use "arrival of new information," even though that's a very sensible reason for changing positions on almost anything. The old "flip-flopper" characterization would fall apart in a minute if folks just met it with a "oh, you want someone who sticks to his guns regardless of a change in the information available?" We've already had such a president, and it didn't work out too well.

I know right? At least Jeb pulled an "I didn't hear the question properly." Which to be fair I believe before he made the claim. Obama evolved on gays. I'm honestly not sure which was the lie there. Whether he was always down and feared losing the religiously conservative black vote by supporting gays or whether it was him realizing politics is long game and just set up peices for future players. (Not that I care when it comes to DADT) I wish he'd hurry up and evolve on weed.