Hi baby what's your sign?

[sonofsolstice]

It seems to me that for optimum correlation between your character traits and those of your astrological sign, the basis should be the date of your conception rather than the date of your birth.

 

[SimonDoom]

Some imbecile posted a thread about astrology and twenty others joined him... where is the damn exit sign in this purgatory?

Presumably, you know as well as anyone else, and nobody is stopping you from showing yourself out.

Yet . . . here you are.

 

[NightPorter]

My wife, who claims that she wouldn't have got together with me if we didn't have compatible Zodiac signs, constantly surprises me with her greater-than-one-in-12 chance of guessing people's Zodiac signs.

Keep in mind that your odds of being born in a particular month are not 1/12. A lot more babies are concevied during the holiday months then the summer months, for instance.

 

[Dr_Strabismus]

Some imbecile posted a thread about astrology and twenty others joined him... where is the damn exit sign in this purgatory?

It's no use pal, one of your alts will just come back here anyway.

 

[Duleigh]

It's no use pal, one of your alts will just come back here anyway.

Please don't feed the trolls

 

[Duleigh]

I'm a Libra, and I've noticed that personality traits among the different zodiac signs seem to hold true, Scorpio tends to be very strong willed (In my family "November Babies" were feared above all others) Aquarians tend to be sweet and loving, Gemini's are friendly and faithful, and Libra is the most wonderful people on the planet. Other than that, the rest is escapist road apples.

Do celestial events effect your life? Well, yeah, if a comet slams into your neighborhood, I will agree that your life is going to take a turn for the worse. I also know that sunspots increase the sun's output, this energizes the E and F layers of the ionosphere which greatly aids in radio propagation. So if being able to listen to WLS Chicago (890 kHz) anywhere in the US effects your life then that's another example of celestial influence. Should Australia become able to see Polaris then that would definitely affect our lives, other than that, no, other than navigators and people who make up horoscopes for periodicals, no ones lives are influenced by the stars

 

[Bramblethorn]

This doesn't prove the point. It tends to disprove it. What it shows is that during the span of years when people tend to be going through puberty, relative age has a significant impact on participation. That seems like an intuitively obvious point, and the evidence seems to support it. But by the age of 21 the difference is almost entirely dissipated. This has nothing at all to do with the kinds of claims that are made regarding Astrology. It simply reflects that during the teenage years those within a certain sporting group who are older tend to be more developed athletes. That makes sense.

The example Ruben gave is for an amateur community league, and in that one the difference is largely gone by age 21. But in pro leagues, RAE continues to have a significant effect well into adulthood.

For instance, some stats here for NBA players. In the general US population, 7.48% of people are born in Feb vs. 7.98% in Jan, with most of that disparity explainable by Jan being a longer month. But among NBA drafts, about 10.5% are born in Feb vs. ~8% in Jan. Putting those two together, a kid born in Feb has about a 40% better chance of making the NBA draft.

(The linked page states "a player born in February or March has a 3-4% better chance of getting drafted than someone born in December" but I'm pretty sure that's an error, created by subtracting percentages when they should be dividing.)

It's not hard to see why RAE matters for kids. The physical difference between "only just 8" and "nearly 9" (or whatever the cutoffs might be) can be significant. It's less obvious why it should still be an issue in adulthood, where "only just 21" vs. "nearly 22" would be a much smaller difference. AFAIK the generally accepted explanation is that RAE gives an edge in childhood, and that then translates into more opportunities which compound that initial edge. The older kid is more likely to be picked for the team, which means more experience and more visibility that might get them into the next team, and so on. By the time that original physical difference has dissipated, the difference in experience has become self-perpetuating.

With that in mind, it makes sense why the effect would dissipate for a community league - the bar to entry isn't particularly high, by age 21 probably anybody who's keen to get in has a pretty good shot at making it. For a top-level league, the standard is much higher and even small differences still matter, in the same kind of way that winning margins in Olympic 100m races are much smaller than in an amateur race.

(I agree with the implication that this effect would change if society changed the relevant cutoff dates, but in the meantime, this kind of effect means that month of birth can have significant effects on how one's life turns out, without requiring a supernatural explanation.)

 

[Britva415]

I believe in signs but not in horoscopes.

 

[SimonDoom]

The example Ruben gave is for an amateur community league, and in that one the difference is largely gone by age 21. But in pro leagues, RAE continues to have a significant effect well into adulthood.

For instance, some stats here for NBA players. In the general US population, 7.48% of people are born in Feb vs. 7.98% in Jan, with most of that disparity explainable by Jan being a longer month. But among NBA drafts, about 10.5% are born in Feb vs. ~8% in Jan. Putting those two together, a kid born in Feb has about a 40% better chance of making the NBA draft.

Thanks to Ruben and you I learned something new. I was completely unaware of this phenomenon. It makes sense for kids but it seems counterintuitive at an adult level -- especially the significance of the effect. Why would February be so well represented, as opposed to January? I read the NBA article and the theories don't seem entirely satisfactory.

It has nothing to do with astrology, but it's interesting.

 

[KeithD]

Leo all the way, not that I give it much thought.

 

[Smuttyandfun]

I'm a Libra, and I do enjoy balance in all things.

 

[RejectReality]

I'll just quote Weird Al here.

Now you may find it inconceivable or at the very least a bit unlikely
that the relative position of the planets and the stars
could have a special deep significance or meaning that exclusively applies to only you.

But let me give you my assurance that these forecasts and predictions
are all based on solid scientific documented evidence
and you would have to be some kind of moron not to realize
that every single one of them is absolutely true.

 

[ElectricBlue]

I am not only ashamed to breathe the same air, but ashamed to share the same galaxy with those sad morons.

You and 21 999 999 others. At least you belong somewhere .

 

[Blind_Justice]

Thankfully I didn't use my sign anywhere as a security answer... so here goes: I'm a Virgo and I happen to share the trait of being obsessive and perfectionist in all the wrong areas. My lady loves to complain "If you'd spend half as much time helping with chores than you spend on tidying up your Transformers shelves, I wouldn't have to do anything." But honey, I AM helping with chores. You don't have to dust any of my overpriced plastic toys or wipe the shelving...

 

[Demiurging]

It's not only about sports. With a very course brush, leaving out all nuances:

You're more likely to build a winners' mentality when you win more often; when you're relatively older at an early age, you'll have physical and mental advantages which makes you more likely to win. When you're stronger than the others, you're less likely to be bullied. Because of those advantages, you'll be more popular, and as a result, people will listen to you. Being listened to, you're be more likely to become confident and develop a leader's mentality. You can learn and hone those skills starting at an early age, and keep developing them, once you're in this position--it almost comes automatically--and those are qualities that will help you through your whole life.

Yep, see also the differences in first, middle, and third children. As I understand it, the former are more prominent in leadership roles.

It's also the sort of thing we see in golden child syndrome, in the other direction, when someone naturally intelligent never learns how to study because they've never had to do it. And then comes the bitter crash in college.

 

[ElectricBlue]

Yep, see also the differences in first, middle, and third children. As I understand it, the former are more prominent in leadership roles.

I'm the third child of four. By the time I came along, the first child was definitely my father's daughter, the second child my mother's son, and apparently my parents decided I would be loved equally, by the both of them. As a consequence, I grew up without the usual Freudian complications; and my younger sister said, "What the fuck was that all about?"

My older sister and I became leaders in our (polar opposite) careers, because we were both more like my father, whereas my brother and younger sister are more passive, like my mother. Family dynamics - if you're not part of one, you don't have a clue! But without a doubt, children follow their parents, if my two are anything to go by. Star signs have nothing whatsoever to do with it

It's also the sort of thing we see in golden child syndrome, in the other direction, when someone naturally intelligent never learns how to study because they've never had to do it. And then comes the bitter crash in college.

I drifted academically through high school, found university too much like home, and ended up being very good at project management (the art of managing black and white, when really, you know it's all shades of grey). Not a career I expected, that's for sure.

 

[Trionyx]

I find it hard to believe that personality traits are determined by when one’s father’s condom broke.

 

[Dr_Strabismus]

I'm merging this thread with this one now: https://forum.literotica.com/threads/hey-baby-what’s-your-sign.1540480/

 

[Bramblethorn]

Thanks to Ruben and you I learned something new. I was completely unaware of this phenomenon. It makes sense for kids but it seems counterintuitive at an adult level -- especially the significance of the effect. Why would February be so well represented, as opposed to January? I read the NBA article and the theories don't seem entirely satisfactory.

That's a good question and I don't have an answer. What one sees at NBA level is going to be the product of a whole chain of selection processes which feed into one another. My guess would be that somewhere in the pipeline there's a "must be X years old on [Jan 31 or Feb 1]" cutoff date, but I don't know where it is. It'd be interesting to see whether the effect is different for different states.

It's also possible for RAE to occur via seasonal influences - e.g. maybe being exposed to baby's first hayfever season at 3 months vs. at 9 months has some lasting consequences on development? - but if that was the cause here I would have expected the numbers to change gradually from one month to the next, not that sharp change from Jan-Feb.

 

[Comshaw]

My birthday is on the cusp between Aquarius and Pisces and being that I'm old enough to have lived through the hippy age, the age of Aquarius I am familiar with astrology. That said my question is, Western or Eastern astrology? I am also familiar with the eastern astrological signs. I was born in the year of the Tiger. So if I decide to give it credence (which I don't) which one rules? Taking into consideration all the variables and the post from Ogg about the western derived one being ten days different now then back when it was formulated, I ain't a gunna' put much stock in its accuracy. But it is a fun game to play.

That said I did find a way to understand me more than I had. The Kersey-Bates personality sorter. I know there are those who insist it isn't accurate, but it was for me. I took the test and when I had my wife read the explanation of my personality type, she was astounded that it was so accurate. She kept giggling and sayng, "That's you! That's you!"

Comshaw

 

[EmilyMiller]

Horoscopes are bullshit. Of Course. But:

My wife, who claims that she wouldn't have got together with me if we didn't have compatible Zodiac signs, constantly surprises me with her greater-than-one-in-12 chance of guessing people's Zodiac signs.

And my character is a "typical" Gemini.

So basically horoscopes are bullshit, but I believe them. Are you a believer?

Aquarius. Not sure if this relates to water-sports.

Em