Here's a responsible gun owner.

[bronzeage]

But I thought background checks solved all the problems!

Wait a SECOND!!....it's WORKING!!

Background checks solve the problem of quieting people who demand background checks. Gun control laws are not intended to control guns. Any reasonably effective gun law would make it difficult for people to leave guns within reach of a three year old.

It would be easy to blame a gun for this death, when clearly the problem is a three year old who just didn't pay attention to his pre-school gun safety lessons. Let's hope he learns from this incident and next time checks to be sure the safety is engaged.

 

[BotanyBoy]

Background checks solve the problem of quieting people who demand background checks. Gun control laws are not intended to control guns.

No they are not are they....

Any reasonably effective gun law would make it difficult for people to leave guns within reach of a three year old.

Wouldn't it be nice if one of those existed?

It would be easy to blame a gun for this death, when clearly the problem is a three year old who just didn't pay attention to his pre-school gun safety lessons. Let's hope he learns from this incident and next time checks to be sure the safety is engaged.

Clearly.....

 

[phrodeau]

Background checks solve the problem of quieting people who demand background checks. Gun control laws are not intended to control guns. Any reasonably effective gun law would make it difficult for people to leave guns within reach of a three year old.

It would be easy to blame a gun for this death, when clearly the problem is a three year old who just didn't pay attention to his pre-school gun safety lessons. Let's hope he learns from this incident and next time checks to be sure the safety is engaged.

I'm reminded of the annual stories of hunting dogs shooting their owners. Of course, I have a suspicion that those are actually only stories.

 

[phrodeau]

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/pol...ohn-boehner-bathroom-report-article-1.2206403

A loaded Glock pistol was found by a young boy in the restroom of the Speaker Suite in the Capitol. Luckily, he declined to play Taxi Driver with it.

It was among at least three instances of Congress' keystone cops leaving weapons in "problematic places," according to the oversight group’s report.

In January, a member of Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell's security detail left a Glock in a Capitol Visitor Center bathroom, with the magazine removed but stuffed inside a toilet seat cover holder.

A startling picture shows where the gun was left in plain sight inside the stall.

Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell's security detail were involved in another of the three documented blunders. The officer in that case was suspended for six days without pay.

Another handgun was found by a janitor in "plain sight" at the Capitol Police headquarters on April 16, according to the website.

The Capitol Police are an independent police force charged with protecting the Capitol and the surrounding neighborhood.

Shouldn't these guys be getting background checks?

 

[phrodeau]

http://www.startribune.com/local/minneapolis/302547411.html

A 15-year-old boy who was fatally shot in his Minneapolis home over the weekend was accidentally killed by his younger brother as they played with a gun found in a park, the family said Tuesday.

Brandon D. Wren was shot in the neck shortly after 11 p.m. Sunday in his family’s home in the 4100 block of Fremont N., according to the Hennepin County medical examiner’s office. He died immediately.

Temeka Wren, Brandon’s stepmother, said the boy’s 14-year-old brother pulled the trigger in an upstairs bedroom while an 18-year-old brother also was present. She said police told her the boys found the gun in Folwell Park, less than a mile south of the family’s home.

“I don’t understand, and they know better” than to play with guns, the sobbing stepmother said, sitting on the home’s front steps late Tuesday morning.

She added that what the 14-year-old did is “eating him alive.”

Also in the home at the time were Brandon’s father and three other siblings, girls ages 5 and 19, and an 11-year-old boy. One day before the shooting, Temeka Wren continued, the family buried Brandon’s sister, 28-year-old Tiffany Scott. She died of cancer.

Police spokesman John Elder said investigators “don’t believe there was any malice” on the part of the boy who fired the fatal shot. “No intent.”

Another loaded gun left lying around where kids can find it.

We'll never know whose it was, because there is no way to trace it. Cellphones are traceable to their owners. Why not guns?

 

[eyer]

Cellphones are traceable to their o...ly need to qualify that a lot more, playdeau.

 

[BotanyBoy]

A loaded Glock pistol was found by a young boy in the restroom of the Speaker Suite in the Capitol. Luckily, he declined to play Taxi Driver with it.

Shouldn't these guys be getting background checks?

Background checks keep people from leaving guns laying around?

Since when?

We'll never know whose it was, because there is no way to trace it. Cellphones are traceable to their owners. Why not guns?

They ground off the serial numbers?

If they didn't they can trace it......kinda like a cell phone that hasn't had it's guts ripped out and shredded into 1,000 bits.

Do you know anything about US gun laws?

Do you know anything about guns other than fully automatic revolver assault machine shotguns are SCARY!!!



Ever bought or tried to buy one?

 

[phrodeau]

Background checks keep people from leaving guns laying around?

Since when?



They ground off the serial numbers?

If they didn't they can trace it......kinda like a cell phone that hasn't had it's guts ripped out and shredded into 1,000 bits.

Do you know anything about US gun laws?

Do you know anything about guns other than fully automatic revolver assault machine shotguns are SCARY!!!



Ever bought or tried to buy one?

So you're saying that all handguns with serial numbers are traceable? That's good. Then they can find the guy who left a loaded gun in a park and charge him as an accessory to manslaughter.

Unless of course he's a cop.

 

[BotanyBoy]

So you're saying that all handguns with serial numbers are traceable? That's good.

Yes...and all handguns have serial numbers, unless intentionally removed....

And before you go crying about how anyone can go into wal mart and buy a "Murder ready" nuclear bomb assault handshotgun across Muricuh like a loaf of bread.....

That too is illegal.

Then they can find the guy who left a loaded gun in a park and charge him as an accessory to manslaughter.

If they wanted to I'm sure they could.....just run the number and teh po-po can find out who bought it, where, when and work their investigation.

Unless of course he's a cop.

There is always that.....

Now answer my questions.....

Have you ever purchased or attempted to buy a gun?

Do you know or have any training with guns?

Because you don't seem to have the slightest fucking clue about ANYTHING to do with guns.....other than hysterical "OMG GUNZ SO SCARY!!" bullshit.

 

[phrodeau]

Yes...and all handguns have serial numbers, unless intentionally removed....

And before you go crying about how anyone can go into wal mart and buy a "Murder ready" nuclear bomb assault handshotgun across Muricuh like a loaf of bread.....

That too is illegal.



If they wanted to I'm sure they could.....just run the number and teh po-po can find out who bought it, where, when and work their investigation.



There is always that.....

Now answer my questions.....

Have you ever purchased or attempted to buy a gun?

Do you know or have any training with guns?

Because you don't seem to have the slightest fucking clue about ANYTHING to do with guns.....other than hysterical "OMG GUNZ SO SCARY!!" bullshit.

I have had training with guns, and I have fired guns.

But I have never, in my life, ever mislaid one.

 

[Recidiva]

I have a bunch of guns in the house.

I would shoot an invader if I couldn't first talk them down. I reserve the right to make that call on someone breaking and entering.

There are approximately 88.8 guns per 100 people in America.

Unfortunately they're easy to make, you can't limit the technology any more than prohibition could keep people from brewing alcohol. Considering the technological simplicity of it, there's not much that can be done with legal solutions.

 

[BotanyBoy]

I have had training with guns, and I have fired guns.

Ok so what's with all the emotional lefty hysterics over guns?

I mean if there is one guy on the GB I can expect to tout the evils of how ANYONE can just walk into ANY store and buy full auto hand assault-WMDz without any accountability whatsoever because no one can trace a gun!!!

Not to mention how unloaded ones kill millions every day...

It's you....

But I have never, in my life, ever mislaid one.

So how the fuck does that back up the YEARS of bullshit lies about guns you spew on the GB?

Is it just to suit your anti gun agenda? If it is be honest and own it...I'll drop this and never bother you about it again.

I have a bunch of guns in the house.

I would shoot an invader if I couldn't first talk them down. I reserve the right to make that call on someone breaking and entering.

There are approximately 88.8 guns per 100 people in America.

Unfortunately they're easy to make, you can't limit the technology any more than prohibition could keep people from brewing alcohol. Considering the technological simplicity of it, there's not much that can be done with legal solutions.

Not to mention the strong sense of entitlement to guns coupled with a long tradition of giving authority the finger = bad idea. Could you imagine how bad prohibition would have been if the BOR had guaranteed them beer?

Which I think should be in the BOR ...right next to weed and casual sex.

 

[about_average]

Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell's security detail were involved in another of the three documented blunders. The officer in that case was suspended for six days without pay.​

IMO the officer should have been fired.

A 15-year-old boy who was fatally shot in his Minneapolis home over the weekend was accidentally killed by his younger brother as they played with a gun found in a park, the family said Tuesday.​

It's sad, but it looks like some parents failed to gun-proof their 14 year old. "Don't play with guns" isn't the way.

 

[Recidiva]

Not to mention the strong sense of entitlement to guns coupled with a long tradition of giving authority the finger = bad idea. Could you imagine how bad prohibition would have been if the BOR had guaranteed them beer?

Which I think should be in the BOR ...right next to weed and casual sex.

I'm not big on Founding Fathers deciding everything for me, such like the fact that I shouldn't be able to own land or vote, but I do respect the basics of the idea that people are acquisitive if not greedy and power corrupts. They were fending off England at the time. It was in their heads that you can only fight if you are armed. I'm with them on that. Yes, I think the army and police should have stronger things than I have, but I am willing to fight when it comes to it, whether it's governments or neighbors being acquisitive if not greedy.

I don't care for beer, but let's legalize drugs and prostitution, please. Weed would work for me, I want it to be legalized in NJ. Haven't smoked since I was in high school, but I could do with a brownie or two.

 

[phrodeau]

Another responsible gun owner hits the news. John Russel Houser lived for nearly 60 years being entirely safe with his weapons, and not shooting up any theaters.

http://www.cnn.com/2015/07/24/us/louisiana-theater-shooting/index.html

 

[Colonel Hogan]

Another responsible gun owner hits the news. John Russel Houser lived for nearly 60 years being entirely safe with his weapons, and not shooting up any theaters.

http://www.cnn.com/2015/07/24/us/louisiana-theater-shooting/index.html

What is it that you don't understand about the fact that a responsible gun owner can transition to a tragically irresponsible gun owner as the result of any combination of complex emotional circumstances occurring over an extended or shockingly brief period of time?

And is this, like so many anti-gun fanatics, your primary argument for opposing private gun ownership -- that we have no fool-proof methodology for determining which law abiding, sufficiently socially functioning person will next go suddenly criminally violent?

Really? That's it?

Or am I missing your message, and you're argument is that the shooter lived lawfully and peacefully with his weapons for 60 years and THAT fact is prima facie evidence of the reasonableness of the laws that facilitated his gun ownership, and that a deteriorating mental condition manifested by a violent act six decades later could not have been reasonably foreseen, and therefore certainly does not form the basis for substantially restricting the lawful gun ownership rights of people who display no evidence of mental instability whatsoever?

Because this second rationale is the far better of the two.

 

[ms_ann_thrope]

I've been a responsible fork owner all my life. Yesterday I stuck myself in the thumb.

 

[AngeloMichael]

Take our guns...please!

 

[thør]

Was the pizza really undersized?

 

[Colonel Hogan]

Was the pizza really undersized?

I could live with the wrong size. Shit happens. But if you bring me the wrong toppings, I will fuck you UP!!

 

[PayDay]

Arm pizza delivery drivers now!

End this madness!

You jest, but this would work 100%.

 

[ms_ann_thrope]

I could live with the wrong size. Shit happens. But if you bring me the wrong toppings, I will fuck you UP!!

*snort*

 

[contrifan32]

Phrodeau watching Fox News again.

 

[thør]

I could live with the wrong size. Shit happens. But if you bring me the wrong toppings, I will fuck you UP!!

Some shit is important!

I just ate a sandwich that was miss delivered to me. Plain old garden variety ham and turkey with swiss and lettuce and tomato. I'm not bitching. Not shooting anyone. But, the poor bastard who get's my order with the horseradish sauce on it is prolly gonna feel like fucking someone up, because Sara puts on a nice spicy horseradish sauce, when you ask for it. And his sandwich was okay, just blah.

 

[bronzeage]

You jest, but this would work 100%.

It would be an effective way to get a lot of pizza delivery guys killed.

That way, you get a pizza, his cash bag, and a gun. It's a hat trick.