Help w/ a name

sweetnpetite

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Anyone know a male name that means 'deceptive' or 'not what it seems' or anything similer. (LC, thanks but Satan is out, lol.)


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sweetnpetite said:
Anyone know a male name that means 'deceptive' or 'not what it seems' or anything similer. (LC, thanks but Satan is out, lol.)


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How about Loki -- or one of his aliases from Norse Mythology.

The Native American mythologies Coyote was a similar deity -- known for trickery, dishoesty and unreliability.

Almost all of the various mythologies aroud the world have a similar diety or demon -- perhaps one of their names would work.
 
sweetnpetite said:
Anyone know a male name that means 'deceptive' or 'not what it seems' or anything similer. (LC, thanks but Satan is out, lol.)


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"Richard Nixon" would get the message across to a lot of folks.

Rumple Foreskin :cool:
 
If I remember a name book I saw correctly, the name Caleb has rather nasty associations and meaning. I'm not sure if it matches what you're looking for exactly.

For me, I'd say Keith. I've never known a decent Keith ever.
 
There are a few names out there like Judas, but the question you need to ask is how the character got such a name. I don't know many parents who would name their child Judas, for example. Did it come as a later nickname? I'm not saying you need to write it out in your story (more detail than the reader needs), but you should have it worked out in your own mind. Otherwise, you can be sure that readers will be saying, "What the hell is she doing trusting a character named Judas, or why doesn't she at least ask how he got that name."
This is true of all negative names, but particularly problematic with 'deceptive' names. Somebody who has a habit of deceit isn't likely to have a name that advertises to that effect. Wouldn't he be more likely to have a name that is deceptive (a name that implies honesty, in other words, such as Abe)?
 
fogbank said:
... I don't know many parents who would name their child Judas ...
Well, just to start, there was the Priest family. (Families?)

I think their parents dubbed them that the first time that they heard them play.
 
Depending on how non-obvious you want to be ... Todd means "fox," which has sly/deceptive connotations; I've used it that way before. Or look at foreign languages, especially for last names, maybe?

Sabledrake
 
fogbank said:
There are a few names out there like Judas, but the question you need to ask is how the character got such a name. I don't know many parents who would name their child Judas, for example. Did it come as a later nickname? I'm not saying you need to write it out in your story (more detail than the reader needs), but you should have it worked out in your own mind. Otherwise, you can be sure that readers will be saying, "What the hell is she doing trusting a character named Judas, or why doesn't she at least ask how he got that name."
This is true of all negative names, but particularly problematic with 'deceptive' names. Somebody who has a habit of deceit isn't likely to have a name that advertises to that effect. Wouldn't he be more likely to have a name that is deceptive (a name that implies honesty, in other words, such as Abe)?

Good point fogbank. Arnold Judas Rimmer is best example of a character named Judas and he was named that because his parents considered him a traitor to their DNA.

"What other son would cause his father to claim an alibi for his sperm on the night of conception?"

The Earl
 
I'm hurt sweets, real hurt.

Hmmm, for obvious anything similar to Lucifer including Lucius, Lucimond, etc... tend to be looked upon poorly. Similarly, Sinistro is blatant. Also, Loki is a good one or Anasazi. Samael as well.

For normal sounding, Vernon is a subtle one as can be Sedrick.

You can also use a game entendre if you want like Jack. Personally I like the conotations of that one. Especially when you add any prelude to it (aka "Honest Jack", "One-eye Jack", "Smiling Jack").

For blatant, Damon, Damien, or Dameon is nice.

And personal, I've always thought Alec sounded like a kind of evil and duplicitous name.
 
Time for more information-

Actually, I'm looking for a man's name that could be used as a last name. It is for a middle-class seemingly perfect family that isn't what it appears to be. I don't want it to be too obvious, but I'd like to use something that hints at a deception.

I found a name "Swindell" (meaning "Valley of the Swines") but I'm not sure it's quite what I want. So far it's just the closest thing I've found.
 
sweetnpetite said:
Time for more information-

Actually, I'm looking for a man's name that could be used as a last name. It is for a middle-class seemingly perfect family that isn't what it appears to be. I don't want it to be too obvious, but I'd like to use something that hints at a deception.

Well, I once worked in a company where two of the financial managers had the last names Leech and Steal (Okay, actually they were Leach and Steel). The company, curiously enough, went into dire financial straights soon after they were hired. Coincidence?
 
sweetnpetite said:
... I'm looking for a man's name that could be used as a last name. It is for a middle-class seemingly perfect family that isn't ... something that hints at a deception...
It sort of depends upon the variety of deception to be implied.

There was a family in my hometown by the name of Shirk. The youngest son was always called Willy.

Nice people, actually, but that need not prevent you from appropriating his name. :D
 
There are so many ways to go here.

Historically, you could use a name like Arnold (Benedict). In my recent research into Scottish history, Dalrymple was the behind the massacre of Glencoe but the Campells were blamed. Pick a country and there will at least one traitor. The cold war traitors might be obscure.

In literature, I think of names like Kurtz, Sykes (Dickens' Oliver Twist), Lechter (Hannibal), etc. Pick your favourite villian, change a letter.

Another possibility is to take a continental name like Dupree and hint at duplicity. Okay, that's a little weak.
 
sweetnpetite said:
Actually, I'm looking for a man's name that could be used as a last name. It is for a middle-class seemingly perfect family that isn't what it appears to be. I don't want it to be too obvious, but I'd like to use something that hints at a deception.

Some variant of Y. Lee or W.I. Lee -- a combination of intials and name that and up to "Wiley" (as in Wile E. Coyote) would work. Especially if it's a family tradition to us to give name with appropriate initials.
 
fogbank said:
There are a few names out there like Judas, but the question you need to ask is how the character got such a name. I don't know many parents who would name their child Judas, for example. Did it come as a later nickname? I'm not saying you need to write it out in your story (more detail than the reader needs), but you should have it worked out in your own mind. Otherwise, you can be sure that readers will be saying, "What the hell is she doing trusting a character named Judas, or why doesn't she at least ask how he got that name."
This is true of all negative names, but particularly problematic with 'deceptive' names. Somebody who has a habit of deceit isn't likely to have a name that advertises to that effect. Wouldn't he be more likely to have a name that is deceptive (a name that implies honesty, in other words, such as Abe)?

I don't know many who would name their child "Lolita" either, but shockingly enough...
 
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