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freakygurl said:I trust Storm..Even if I hadn't asked the dr first.. I would have gone with what Storm said.
That's sig line material
Help needed from parents of ADD children
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Sorry you're having such difficulty freaky - can't offer any better advice than what you've already been offered, so I won't try. Good luck.
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Oh.. sig line material.. I've never been quoted in anyones sig line.
I'm so excited..I almost I piddled in my pants!
Thank you peachykeen
I'm so excited..I almost I piddled in my pants!
Thank you peachykeen
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storm1969 said:Believe it.
I should have paid attention to that smile . . .
freaky - I'm so glad your doctor understands what is happening with the insurance folks. At least now you have a course of action. Keep us informed?
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CLOCKWORK CHILDREN:
More Kids Receiving Psychiatric Drugs: Question of 'Why' Still Unanswered (Shankar Vedantam, January 14, 2003, Washington Post)
The number of American children being treated with psychiatric drugs has grown sharply in the past 15 years, tripling from 1987 to 1996 and showing no sign of slowing, researchers said yesterday.
A newly published study, the most comprehensive to date, found that by 1996, more than 6 percent of children were taking drugs such as Prozac, Ritalin and Risperdal, and the researchers said the trajectory continued to rise through 2000.
While the increase may partly reflect better diagnosis of mental illness in children, the authors said they fear that cost-saving techniques by insurance companies, marketing by the pharmaceutical industry and increased demands on parents and doctors may be driving the increase.
One issue that, as we've written, improbably enough unites Francis Fukuyama, Glenn Reynolds (Brains: Good, Bad, and Modified) and Leon Kass is the scary ethical implications of using biopharmaceuticals to control behavior. As Mr. Reynolds wrote:
You can control the brain chemistry of large, unconsenting populations with less sophisticated technologies if you get enough government involved. In fact, we're already doing that at the behest of many in public schools, for what else is it when children, usually boys, who in a prior age were simply regarded as unruly are now given Ritalin and other medications intended to change their classroom behavior by changing their brain chemistry? While professional doomsayers and White House committees study the ethics of cloning, millions of American children are--and this is not alarmism, but literal truth--having their minds controlled by the government, with surprisingly little debate. Why the disparity in attention?
Of course, the connection he refuses to make is that parents (as much as schools, or "government") who are willing to do this to make their kids pliable in the first place seem quite likely to bioengineer behaviors into them when given the chance.
More Kids Receiving Psychiatric Drugs: Question of 'Why' Still Unanswered (Shankar Vedantam, January 14, 2003, Washington Post)
The number of American children being treated with psychiatric drugs has grown sharply in the past 15 years, tripling from 1987 to 1996 and showing no sign of slowing, researchers said yesterday.
A newly published study, the most comprehensive to date, found that by 1996, more than 6 percent of children were taking drugs such as Prozac, Ritalin and Risperdal, and the researchers said the trajectory continued to rise through 2000.
While the increase may partly reflect better diagnosis of mental illness in children, the authors said they fear that cost-saving techniques by insurance companies, marketing by the pharmaceutical industry and increased demands on parents and doctors may be driving the increase.
One issue that, as we've written, improbably enough unites Francis Fukuyama, Glenn Reynolds (Brains: Good, Bad, and Modified) and Leon Kass is the scary ethical implications of using biopharmaceuticals to control behavior. As Mr. Reynolds wrote:
You can control the brain chemistry of large, unconsenting populations with less sophisticated technologies if you get enough government involved. In fact, we're already doing that at the behest of many in public schools, for what else is it when children, usually boys, who in a prior age were simply regarded as unruly are now given Ritalin and other medications intended to change their classroom behavior by changing their brain chemistry? While professional doomsayers and White House committees study the ethics of cloning, millions of American children are--and this is not alarmism, but literal truth--having their minds controlled by the government, with surprisingly little debate. Why the disparity in attention?
Of course, the connection he refuses to make is that parents (as much as schools, or "government") who are willing to do this to make their kids pliable in the first place seem quite likely to bioengineer behaviors into them when given the chance.
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I've been waiting for you, busybody.
As you can see.. your opinion isn't wanted. Have a nice day
01-17-2003 03:43 PM This person is on your Ignore List. To view this post click [here]
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I've been waiting for you, busybody.
As you can see.. your opinion isn't wanted. Have a nice day
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Thar he blows!
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just curious freaky, are you doing any sort of diet modification with your daughter in conjunction with the meds? I tried to do the gluten free/casein free thing (which granted is more specifically for autism, not ADD, but you know, additives, colorings etc ) when I was caring for my nephew, but it's really rough, given that he knows what he likes and would have a major fit (or, just not eat, for days) at foods he didn't like.
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I don't have a set diet that I'm following.
From the day that Kimber was able to tell me what she wanted to eat.. she has preferred a no meat diet. She will only eat organicly grown stuff.. free range chicken.. stuff like that.
She likes whole wheat bread when she has to eat bread. Likes milk, yogurt, cottage cheese etc. But doesn't eat "to much" of any one thing.
One problem is.. at her dads house they won't follow her diet. (They also "forget" to give her the medication)
They force her to eat what they fix.. or eat nothing at all.
I've offered to send food for her.. premade foods that could be warmed up.. but they won't do it.
And you know.. the more I think about this.. the more I see a resemblance between busybody and D.. hmmm nah.. can't be. He's at work. But they have the same ideas.
Needless to say.. Kimbers "father/sperm donor" and I aren't, I guess, on speaking terms. I asked him to help with the expense of the medications if I ended up buying them. I was flat out told no.
From the day that Kimber was able to tell me what she wanted to eat.. she has preferred a no meat diet. She will only eat organicly grown stuff.. free range chicken.. stuff like that.
She likes whole wheat bread when she has to eat bread. Likes milk, yogurt, cottage cheese etc. But doesn't eat "to much" of any one thing.
One problem is.. at her dads house they won't follow her diet. (They also "forget" to give her the medication)
They force her to eat what they fix.. or eat nothing at all.
I've offered to send food for her.. premade foods that could be warmed up.. but they won't do it.
And you know.. the more I think about this.. the more I see a resemblance between busybody and D.. hmmm nah.. can't be. He's at work. But they have the same ideas.
Needless to say.. Kimbers "father/sperm donor" and I aren't, I guess, on speaking terms. I asked him to help with the expense of the medications if I ended up buying them. I was flat out told no.
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freakygurl said:busybody
01-17-2003 03:43 PM This person is on your Ignore List. To view this post click [here]
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I've been waiting for you, busybody.
As you can see.. your opinion isn't wanted. Have a nice day
ditto.
He's been on ignore for me since your last thread on this topic. I kinda like him that way.
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Cheyenne said:ditto.
He's been on ignore for me since your last thread on this topic. I kinda like him that way.
I just added him on ignore (my first on that list) - it is wonderful!!!
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Yep.. he has been on my ignore list for a long time. I don't miss him either.
An update about Kimber. She took her Adderall this morning. And had an awesome day. She was so thrilled when I picked her up from school. 100% on her spelling test.. and she finished all her work on time.
She told me today that it was nice to have her brain back on the right track.
The dr faxed the new prescription to the pharmacy. I'll pick it up tomorrow. There is no school on Monday.. so that gives me two days (Sunday and Monday) to observe her at home on the higher dosage of Concentra. The teacher will watch her on Tuesday and I'll go observe her in class on Wednesday. She has a dr appointment on Thursday.
Hopefully this will all be settled in the next week or so.
An update about Kimber. She took her Adderall this morning. And had an awesome day. She was so thrilled when I picked her up from school. 100% on her spelling test.. and she finished all her work on time.
She told me today that it was nice to have her brain back on the right track.
The dr faxed the new prescription to the pharmacy. I'll pick it up tomorrow. There is no school on Monday.. so that gives me two days (Sunday and Monday) to observe her at home on the higher dosage of Concentra. The teacher will watch her on Tuesday and I'll go observe her in class on Wednesday. She has a dr appointment on Thursday.
Hopefully this will all be settled in the next week or so.
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So happy to hear your good news!
Concerta did cause my daughter to lose her appetite a bit. Your daughter is so tiny - it may be something to watch carefully. Your schedule sure looks good (we always hope for some time off from school to observe our kids when there is a medication change.)
Good luck! (And good for you for doing everything necessary to help your child!)
Concerta did cause my daughter to lose her appetite a bit. Your daughter is so tiny - it may be something to watch carefully. Your schedule sure looks good (we always hope for some time off from school to observe our kids when there is a medication change.)
Good luck! (And good for you for doing everything necessary to help your child!)
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I don't have a kid with ADD but I do have ADD without hyperactivity if that counts. When medicating someone with ADD it's a very difficult situation. There are soooo many meds. Some work better for some then others. I did well on Ritalin but Adderral made me crazy. I was bouncing off the walls, irritable, unable to sit still. It was terrible. I was on concerta for a bit but I lost my insurance and am now on nothing.
Until you can figure out what to do, I would recommend trying to control some of this with diet. Studies have shown that Gluten make ADD symptoms worse. In some children when gluten and refined sugars were taken out of their diet they improved.
Another thing is that you could try a couple more meds before switching to Adderal. I know that doesn't sound like a very good solution, but it might be worth it to try Clonidine.
Now... For the school stuff. I don't know if you know this but under section 504 of the Americans with Disability act the school is required to make special provisions for your daughter. These include but are not limited to the use of a calcutor, untimed tests in a quiet place, extended time to do some assignments, and many other provisions that I can not think of off the top of my head. If the school can not meet your daughter's needs then are required by law to pay for her to attend a school that will take care of her needs.
If you have any questions feel free to pm me.
Until you can figure out what to do, I would recommend trying to control some of this with diet. Studies have shown that Gluten make ADD symptoms worse. In some children when gluten and refined sugars were taken out of their diet they improved.
Another thing is that you could try a couple more meds before switching to Adderal. I know that doesn't sound like a very good solution, but it might be worth it to try Clonidine.
Now... For the school stuff. I don't know if you know this but under section 504 of the Americans with Disability act the school is required to make special provisions for your daughter. These include but are not limited to the use of a calcutor, untimed tests in a quiet place, extended time to do some assignments, and many other provisions that I can not think of off the top of my head. If the school can not meet your daughter's needs then are required by law to pay for her to attend a school that will take care of her needs.
If you have any questions feel free to pm me.
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Dustygrrl.. I appreciate your input.
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freakygurl said:
You are very welcome
