Hello? TV News People? Show a bit of respect here, okay?

JazzManJim

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Of course, you can't turn on a TV news station without hearing a story about PFC Jessica Lynch. Hers will turn out to be, I believe, one of the more interesting and compelling stories that could be told of any of the soldiers there in Iraq. So I don't really have a problem with the news updates on her condition, her being transferred to Germany, yet more updates, her going home, etc.

What I do have a problem with is what I've seen many of the talking heads calling her. It may be a minor point to most folks but it really rankles me badly. So this little rant is addressed to them.

She is Private First Class Jessica Lynch. It's not Jessica, or, God Forbid, Jessie. Go with PFC Lynch or even Private Lynch if you want to go with a shortened version of her name. You don't know her and you certainly haven't earned the right to use her first name. You definitely do not have the right to tag her with a nickname that, in my opinion, diminishes what she is and what she's done. I don't understand why you have decided to do this, when you have not done so with other soldiers killed or wounded in battle. Even the craven traitor who rolled grenades into his fellow soldiers' tents gets accorded the respect of his full rank and name. Perhaps you are doing this because you feel some sort of warmth toward her, or some kinship. Maybe her sex or age have something to do with it. I don't care.

There's something that happens when you show those photos of her, looking for all the world like a cheerleader or a little girl playing dress-up in her Daddy's uniform and call her Jessica or Jessie. You dishonor her. You take away her strength and dignity and that is something that you may not do.

Maybe you don't understand what happened to her. She enlisted in the US Army, went through basic training, learned her duties and went into a very dangerous place because that was her job. When her unit came under a withering ambush and her friends and compatriots were falling dead around her, she fought back fiercely, emptying her weapon at the enemy. Remember, she's not a Ranger or an Infantryman. She's a supply clerk and the last time I checked, supply clerks rarely expect (and indeed even train!) to be in a pitched close-quarters gun battle with a larger and more heavily-armed force. She sustained severe wounds and continued to fight. She spent time as a prisoner of war and suffered physical abuse, at the very least. It is likely, based on the sources who helped to rescue her, that she may have suffered worse.

She is not a helpless child. Do not be deceived by the pictures of her on the stretcher, dazed and wounded. She is a soldier, who has both been wounded and killed in battle. She has earned the right to be addressed by her full rank and last name, as you would any other soldier.
 
JazzManJim said:

She is Private First Class Jessica Lynch. It's not Jessica

Join the military, lose your humanity. I could see the "Jessie" and "sugartits" as being out of line, but it's her first name, people get to use it.
 
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Spinaroonie said:
Join the military, lose your humanity.

But that's not the point.

It is basic etiquette that you do not use someone's first name until you actually know them, and have their consent to do so. You do not assume a more familiar relationship with them (which the use of the first name implies) and you certainly should not impart that implied familiarity to millions of TV viewers by using it do often. That's not only bad journalism, it's disrespectful.
 
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JazzManJim said:
But that's not the point.

It is basic etiquette that you do not use someone's first name until you actually know them, and have their consent to do so. You do not assume a more familiar relationship with them (which the use of the first name implies) and you certainly should not impart that implied familiarity to millions of TV viewers by using it do often. That's not only bad journalism, it's disrespectful.

She's a Public figure now. I know, she didn't ask to be or anything, but they made her into one.

Plus, they're using the same method they use on the guy who got the lucky quick pick. "George bought his ticket..."
 
JMJ -

I agree with you. I keep my head in the sand, as far as news goes - shame on me - but I know of what you speak.

Hear hear.
 
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Spinaroonie said:
Join the military, lose your humanity. I could see the "Jessie" and "sugartits" as being out of line, but it's her first name, people get to use it.

I disagree Spinaroonie that joining the military means you lose your humanity. You lose a certain amount of control over your life, as to just where you will live or when you will go into combat. You develop a group first mentality as opposed to a me first mind set. But I believe my humanity remained intact and maybe even grew due to my stint as a solider. I learned a great deal about compassion for human suffering and caring for my fellow man.
 
watergirl said:
JMJ -

I agree with you. I keep my head in the sand, as far as news goes - shame on me - but I know of what you speak.

Hear hear.

Hey beauty.

How long do I have to bring a smile to your lovely mug before I get a poem of my own, hmmm? ;)
 
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sweet soft kiss said:
I disagree Spinaroonie that joining the military means you lose your humanity. You lose a certain amount of control over your life, as to just where you will live or when you will go into combat. You develop a group first mentality as opposed to a me first mind set. But I believe my humanity remained intact and maybe even grew due to my stint as a solider. I learned a great deal about compassion for human suffering and caring for my fellow man.

Excellent. Most excellent.

Sign up and no longer think for yourself, instead learn to do as you're told and to function only as a widget inside a larger machine. If you die, they simply replace the widget, with a person who thinks and operates just as you did.
 
Damn, this wasn't where I thought this was going at all!!



She is one tough chick, by all accounts, and she can take care of herself. But, of course, the media has painted her as some vaguely cute little girl, instead of the professional soldier she is. She isn't a cutie pie, she's a trained killer who almost died, and fought back hard.


Damned right, some respect is deserved.
 
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Spinaroonie said:
Excellent. Most excellent.

Sign up and no longer think for yourself, instead learn to do as you're told and to function only as a widget inside a larger machine. If you die, they simply replace the widget, with a person who thinks and operates just as you did.

Spinaroonie. Life is like that. You live, you die and the world still spins around on its axis. We all function as a widget in the bigger machine. That doesn't perclude being human.
 
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sweet soft kiss said:
Spinaroonie. Life is like that. You live, you die and the world still spins around on its axis. We all function as a widget in the bigger machine. That doesn't perclude being human.

The world is different. There are choices, there is free will. This is not the same of the military.

Btw, why do you think they call Boot camp the dehumanizing process?
 
poem? You want a poem?

Jazz Man Jim,
He can really sing a hymn.

I'll go out on a limb,
and say he's a gem.

He's good to his friends,
his threads he faithfully tends,
and I'd go so far as to say
that he's earned straight A's!


:p :kiss:
 
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Spinaroonie said:
The world is different. There are choices, there is free will. This is not the same of the military.

Btw, why do you think they call Boot camp the dehumanizing process?

What Boot Camp deals with is breaking down individuality, not humanity.

I dare say that wathcing the news the past couple weeks, you have seen extraordinary acts of humanity from Coalition soldier. I can think of at least a half-dozen stories right off the top of my head.

Individualty is sacrificed because it has to. IN order ot have a group of people fight as an efffective unit, they have to be a unit, not a group of individuals.

Even so, and even assuming public figure status, that does not forgive the use of assumed familiarity. Like I said, it's disrespectful and bad journalism.
 
Spin, it's like hypnotism. You don't lose anything or become anything unless you want to.

There is no draft. Enlisting is an act of free will.
 
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Casual familiarity of public figures has been on the rise for a long time. It used to be that the President of the United States was always addressed as Mr. President and referred to as President (insert name). Now quite often I hear Mr. Clinton or Mr. Bush. I know I noticed it first during the Clinton administration, but it is quite possible I had not noticed the change before. I don't know, maybe its a small and inconsequential change, but I do believe certain offices deserve a certain kind of respect.

And again Jazz Man Jim you articulated better than I ever could the difference between individuality and humanity. Thank you.
 
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Spinaroonie said:
The world is different. There are choices, there is free will. This is not the same of the military.

Btw, why do you think they call Boot camp the dehumanizing process?

To Add what Jazzman said

It is also to help you cope with combat

Then comes your specitaly school
 
Spin, this time I think you are wrong and JMJ is right - on a number of counts. Private Lynch has earned the respect, and deserves the courtesy of being addressed properly.

Also, having been in the military myself, and having known quite a few people in the military, I do not believe that such people are the mechanistic automotons you make them out to be - nor does the military try to make such out of its members. For example, for better or worse, both Lost Cause and I are very much individuals, and we were both in the military, LC for over a decade - we weren't really that much different when we were in the military from what we are now. There is some indoctrination, but you get that anywhere - I got it a little over a week ago with a long orientation for my new job.
 
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