Hello, all! Just found this place...

[stevieraygovan]

Okay, so yeah, I'm an idiot. I've been reading stories on Literotica for a number of years and in all the time I've been reading this site I had no clue that this place also offered discussion boards and pic posting forums and all this other stuff; that is, until a reader recently e-mailed me to let me know of the existence of this message board.

Oh well, better late than never...

I finally broke down and began submitting stories only a few months ago. A friend of mine beat me up so often about it that I finally gave in to her and submitted something, just to shut her up. That initial "something" was my "Angelina" series. Posting that story here constituted the first time I ever documented that part of my life in story form. After I'd posted that series my same friend wouldn't let me off the hook until I also posted the natural follow ups to "Angelina," which were "Sisters" and "Stacey."

At least she's finally let up on me!

Anyway, here are a few observations from this first post noob...

-There are some incredibly good writers here. There are stories here that I'd gladly offer up to anybody as proof that erotica can in fact still involve excellent story telling and superb craftsmanship.

-Unfortunately there are far too many absolutely horrible writers here too. I'm always a bit surprised at how lazy some fairly prolific writers here are in terms of being unwilling to brush up on even the most rudimentary grammar and spelling.

-People sure get brave with their "anonymous" public comments. Cracks me up, the way so many people are so afraid to sign their comments and thereby expose themselves. Hell, some of the best conversations I've had here came about as a result of people who offered comments or feedback which included a name and a return address.

-Along those same lines there sure are a lot of petty and vindictive people who read Lit. People give "0" scores at the drop of a hat, the moment they get upset about...anything. Sure are a lot of masochists here, judging by the sheer volume of people who regularly post negative comments about stories which they knew going in would contain offensive (to them) content. For example why on earth do people who hate "loving wives" stories continue to read them and get upset by them? If you know you disapprove of wives who fuck other men then what are you doing reading those stories?? Why do that to yourself? A sane person would simply scroll right on past that genre of stories...or so I'd think anyway.

-It hasn't happened yet but I vow to one day submit a "typo free" story!

-Probably the most hilarious aspect of writing stories here has proven to be the wildly divergent comments and suggestions. I'm always amazed and amused by the way one story could prompt one group of people to write me to say, "Please, gangbang her! Make her do the whole football team!" while another equally vociferous group will write to say, "Please, don't turn her into a gangbang slut. Keep this thing a good story!"

Similarly one group will write to say, "Too much narrative! More action!" while the other will say, "Stretch this thing out more. More character development, less sex, please!"

I do have one question. There's an author here called angiquesophie, who's an excellent writer. Besides her writing abilities she also amazes me with the way her stories always seem to receive an unusual amount of feedback. I haven't encountered more of a "lightning rod" author here; ie, someone for whom people seem to lie in wait so that her next offering can instantly become its own mini discussion forum. This woman seems to inspire an incredible degree of anger in many people; anger that's usually directed personally at her, rather than at the characters in her stories.

Can somebody clue me in as to her story? How'd she come to be so controversial here?

Also, any suggestions as to other authors here who inspire the kind of visceral reactions she inspires? Are there other authors here who are equally skilled, infamous and controversial?

 

[Pornguin]

Okay, so yeah, I'm an idiot. I've been reading stories on Literotica for a number of years and in all the time I've been reading this site I had no clue that this place also offered discussion boards and pic posting forums and all this other stuff; that is, until a reader recently e-mailed me to let me know of the existence of this message board.

Oh well, better late than never...

I finally broke down and began submitting stories only a few months ago. A friend of mine beat me up so often about it that I finally gave in to her and submitted something, just to shut her up.

Hey, it took me over seven years of reading Literotica to join the boards and to write my first story, so don't feel bad.

 

[DeeZire]

Can somebody clue me in as to her story? How'd she come to be so controversial here?

I don't know why she's controversial, but she does have ten green Es out of roughly forty stories, which could cause envy from other authors. Plus she has a really cool photo on her bio page.

Thanks for the heads up. I'm always looking for the green E writers, although I don't look very hard.

There's a new author in the Holiday Contest named Lawrence (?) posting really well-written stories that don't always get a great reception from the general public. There's also this gal, Dafney DeWitt, who appears to be gone, although she still has stories posted. Her stories are like little morality plays that leave you pondering the meaning of life when your done reading them.

http://www.literotica.com/stories/memberpage.php?uid=17146&page=submissions

FYI - if you put a link to your story page in your sig line, it would make it easier for us to track down your stories. The instructions for how to do that are in a sticky around here somewhere. Or if you can't find them, PM me. I have screenshots saved, but you'd need an OSX Mac to read them.

 

[Darkniciad]

I don't know why she's controversial, but she does have ten green Es out of roughly forty stories, which could cause envy from other authors. Plus she has a really cool photo on her bio page.

She's a woman writing stories in the Loving Wives category where ( I gather from the comments while reading the feedback portal, though that's a questionable source ) the cheating wife finds few ill consequences -- and perhaps boons -- from her infidelity.

For a huge chunk of the readership that comments, she's the ultimate insult. To them, she's slapping them in the face and challenging their masculinity -- probably wearing the face of whatever woman jilted them.

Fantasy | Reality

Too many career commenters in the LW category are missing that little dividing line I put in there *laugh*

 

[stevieraygovan]

DeeZire, thanks for the tips.

Btw, you're one of those really good writers I had in mind in my initial post. In fact I left you a public comment on your "Christmas Cookies" and "Payback" stories. "Payback" in particular was quite good.

I say you need to do more exhibitionism stories!

Here's the link to my story submissions page...

http://www.literotica.com/stories/memberpage.php?uid=1014340&page=submissions

You'll notice I'm fairly new here. I'm definitely a work in progress, in terms of learning how to correctly format these stories so they don't get rejected for spacing errors and whatsuch. That's always big fun, waiting a few days to see you shiny new story appear on the site, only to have it come back rejected over some technical glitch! I've also noticed that my first stories had more typos and more punctuation errors than my most recent submissions. The quotes and commas especially were killing me in my initial efforts.

Like I said, I'm a work in progress.

One other question: What do the little red "H" and little green "E" mean when they appear on our story submissions page?

 

[Darkniciad]

One other question: What do the little red "H" and little green "E" mean when they appear on our story submissions page?

Red H = Hot. It means the story has at least 10 votes and a score of 4.50+
Green E = Editor's Choice. The powers that be, who screen all these stories, found the story to be especially worthy of notice.
Blue W = Winner of a themed contest or a monthly contest.

 

[stevieraygovan]

Darkniciad, thanks for the info. I had no clue what those red "H"s meant. I sorta figured out on my own though that a yellow "N" means "new."

See, I'm sharp like that.

 

[DeeZire]

DeeZire, thanks for the tips.

Btw, you're one of those really good writers I had in mind in my initial post. In fact I left you a public comment on your "Christmas Cookies" and "Payback" stories. "Payback" in particular was quite good.

Dude! Thanks, but I'm more in the 'fair to middlin' category than the 'really good' category. Funny thing about Paybacks - that was the first story ever I posted here, although not the first I ever finished - probably more like the 50th. Anyway, ever since then it's been all downhill - trying too hard, I suspect.

I do like the exhibitionist scenario, especially when the exhibitor is not exactly thrilled with the situation, as in 'Limewire Girl'. It's the emotion that intrigues me, not the exposed skin.

There is a 'favorite authors' thread on one of the forums. That would be a good place to look for more recommendations. I don't read enough around here to give you any more, although in mainstream fiction, (the kind you buy at the bookstore) Stacy Richter is one of the most interesting short story writers I've seen - really heartfelt stuff, but still hip enough to be funny, or disturbing, depending on the tale she's telling.

 

[sweet_escape]

Okay, so yeah, I'm an idiot. I've been reading stories on Literotica for a number of years and in all the time I've been reading this site I had no clue that this place also offered discussion boards and pic posting forums and all this other stuff; that is, until a reader recently e-mailed me to let me know of the existence of this message board.

Hello! It took me six months to realise there's a forum here, so you're not alone in that regard.

And it looks like you've been pretty busy writing. I'll have to check out your work.

I hope your stories do well, and that you get lots of helpful feedback.

 

[stevieraygovan]

Sweet Escape, yes, once I submitted that first story I've been fairly busy ever since writing new stories. My job only allows me one day per every seven or eight days to devote to ths new little hobby but I've thrown myself into it as much as my time has allowed. In fact I have today off so I'm planning on trying to write the next (and probably final) chapter of my "Christmas With Summer" series today.

Regarding your comment about hoping my stories receive lots of feedback, nope, my stories have received very little actual feedback. The scores have been okay but my stories receive little in the way of posted public comments and even the e-mails I receive are nearly always story idea requests rather than feedback on my existing stories.

I'm not sure if that's a good thing or a bad thing, this lack of feedback my stories inspire, but I suspect it's probably not good. It must mean that my stories aren't inspiring enough passion in the reader to where they feel compelled to say something about it.

Usually the only comments I receive about my stories center around requests to either slow the woman down or speed her up and turn her into a freakshow. Otherwise I've only received one "constructive criticism" bit of feedback from a reader who said he loved my stuff but in his opinion he felt I could lighten up a bit on the descriptions and the narrative.

Hopefully by interacting here on this forum I'll get more feedback. It'll probably be a case of "Be careful for what you wish for" but we'll see...

 

[stevieraygovan]

DeeZire, I just read three more of your stories: "LimeWire Girl", "Quicksand" and "The Receptionist And The Zombie."

"Quicksand" literally made me laugh, which is a rarity 'round these parts. All your snarky little asides kept making me laugh.

Also, as I was reading it I was thinking that you could've really made that one a highly sexy story. I know that wasn't your intent, obviously. You were going more for humor, with a little titillation thrown in for good measure. There sure was a lot of potential there though, especially when they were writhing around against each other in the quicksand. You also could've really killed with the teasing factor once they got back to his place. She moved too quickly to fuck him. The change in her came too quickly.

Again though you were going for humor, not the sexy build up. I liked that story.

"LimeWire Girl" was obviously a pretty mean spirited story. It was labeled a "non consent" story and rightfully so, which is why I originally passed over it. I don't usually read "non consent" stories but since you specifically mentioned it I went ahead and read it.

Because you wrote it I still enjoyed it. By that I mean it still contained some of your usual humor, which lightened it up a bit from what might've otherwise been a very ugly story.

You cracked me up when you had her daydreaming while she was preparing to get gangbanged, ostensibly for a rock video. Yeah, Kid Rock and John Mayer are going to help gangbang some girl in some other rock star's video! Bwaaahaaaa!!

Like I said, your usual infusion of humor saved that story for me.

"The Receptionist & The Zombie" was more of the same in that I saw potential there for something truly sexy but you went for a quicker payoff laced with a little less of your usual humor. Reading that one I got the impression that you must've been in a bad mood when you wrote it. It felt like you were remembering something that left you bitter and pissed off. It was especially bad when the sweet mousy girl blew him off with her bit about how she only gives guys one chance and he blew his one chance.

That hurt. It was intended to hurt though, obviously, so you did a good job with it.

All in all I'll still stand by my original assertion that you're a good writer! You're just not nearly as ambitious with your stories as some people are. You could've easily turned many of your stories into long winded epics but it seems apparent that you're not in it for that. It seems more like like you just wrote these stories for a quick laugh; like it was as easy for you as getting out of bed.

Good stuff.

After reading your stories I think you might like my "Angelina", "Sisters" and "Christmas With Summer" series. I think you might like them due to the dialog and the lighter sense of humor, both of which remind me a little of your own stories. They're longer and more involved than your stories but they seem like they might be right up your alley. Check 'em out if you get the chance and let me know what you think...

 

[DeeZire]

Stevie - turn on your PM function, which is in your 'user CP' menu. I was going to discuss endings, but didn't want to post spoilers. And thanks for your insightful comments. I'll check out your writing later. I have to freakin' work today - at least for a couple of hours.

 

[sweet_escape]

Usually the only comments I receive about my stories center around requests to either slow the woman down or speed her up and turn her into a freakshow. Otherwise I've only received one "constructive criticism" bit of feedback from a reader who said he loved my stuff but in his opinion he felt I could lighten up a bit on the descriptions and the narrative.

Hopefully by interacting here on this forum I'll get more feedback. It'll probably be a case of "Be careful for what you wish for" but we'll see...

I've had one of those comments on a story, too. It was intended to be a sweet, sad story, but the reader wanted me to write another chapter and turn my female character into a raving nympho.

I'll read your work tonight and send through some feedback. It's morning here now, and I'll be heading off to work shortly.

Will be in touch!

 

[stevieraygovan]

DeeZire, okay, I think I just enabled private messaging. Once someone tries to send me a PM I guess I'll find out if it worked. Per your earlier advice I also clicked a box that said, "Display Your Signature," in which I included the URL to my stories submission page.

I still don't see a sig appearing beneath my posts though so maybe I did something wrong...

(Edit: Ah, there it is now. Weird. It only appears beneath some of my posts...)

sweet escape, yep, "Let her become a raving nympho!" sure does seem to be the dominant request theme! Cracks me up. I'd say most people would agree that the women in my stories tend to be fairly sexed up to begin with and yet the majority of my requests are to make her go completely off the deep end. Thing is, as soon as you do that here come the requests for you to ease back on the throttle a bit, to stop making her such a whore!

Good times, good times.

 

[DeeZire]

DeeZire, okay, I think I just enabled private messaging. Once someone tries to send me a PM I guess I'll find out if it worked.

When you get a PM, it is noted in the upper right hand corner of the forum window, right under 'welcome stevie...' I'll send one now.

 

[stevieraygovan]

DeeZire, I just received three different e-mails to my Yahoo address informing me that I've received PMs from you. Those e-mails even include the text of what you sent. However my actual PM inbox here is still showing zero messages.

Is that how PMs here are supposed to work? They go straight to the supplied e-mail address rather than going to the PM program here?

I also just sent you a PM, just to see if my "send PM" program is working correctly. I have a feeling my PM's inbox isn't working correctly.

(Edit: Okay, everything's working correctly now. Sending and receiving PMs, adding my stories link to a sig, it's all working now. Thanks for guiding me through the noob stage here.)

 

[sweet_escape]

DeeZire, I just received three different e-mails to my Yahoo address informing me that I've received PMs from you. Those e-mails even include the text of what you sent. However my actual PM inbox here is still showing zero messages.

Is that how PMs here are supposed to work? They go straight to the supplied e-mail address rather than going to the PM program here?

I also just sent you a PM, just to see if my "send PM" program is working correctly. I have a feeling my PM's inbox isn't working correctly.

(Edit: Okay, everything's working correctly now. Sending and receiving PMs, adding my stories link to a sig, it's all working now. Thanks for guiding me through the noob stage here.)

I'm glad you got those technical problems sorted out.

Just wanted to let you know I read chapter one of 'Angelina' and really enjoyed it. I like your writing style and left a comment with some (hopefully) constructive feedback.

I'll check out the next chapter tomorrow.

 

[stevieraygovan]

sweet escape, thank you for leaving the feedback. I read it and I do appreciate it. To your point there about the exclamation marks making them seem young, you may be right. That's a true story and we were all pretty young since that story took place when we were 23 years old. I tried to depict the dialog as accurately as I could, writing it from memory.

I'm glad you're going to get to the next chapter. As I told DeeZire in a PM it's this next chapter and the rest of the "Angelina" series that was the genesis for my entry here. That was the story I was brow beaten into putting into written story form. A friend of mine who knew of that story had been beating me up for years to submit it here and I finally broke down and gave in to her.

Chapter II of "Angelina" is currently my highest rated submission (more about that later) and I agree that it might be one of my favorites too. It ws definitely the story I was most eager to tell. I might actually prefer Chapters III and IV even more though, simply because I was there for all of it and Chapter III in particular included a couple of really hot revelation scenes. Angelina and Steve had to literally recount for me what happened in Chapter II (as well as the final dance scene at the beach in Chapter IV), as close to word for word as possible, since I wasn't actually there in the room during those moments.

Funny thing about this "highest rated submission" business. I tend to leave a lot of public feedback for people's stories. If I read a story then often as not I'll go ahead and leave a public comment and I always sign my name to my comments. Doing so has actually cost me, in the form of petty "revenge" scores given to my own stories.

See, at one point "Christmas With Summer: Chapter II" and "Sisters: Chapter II" were simultaneously sitting alone at the very top of of the "Exhibitionism" and "Loving Wives" categories in our "Top Lists" section. "Angelina: Chapter II" was also in the top five of "Exhibitionism" stories. Things were going well until I received some anonymous e-mails saying, "I hope you enjoyed your time at the top!"

Whereas to that point those stories were all sitting in the 4.86 to 4.95 range the next thing I knew all my stories had suddenly received a string of "0" and "1" scores, knocking them from the top spots. I had enough votes accumulated to where the assholes weren't able to knock my stories down too far but as a result of their sabotage votes "Angelina: Chapter II" currently sits there as my highest rated story, with a reduced score of 4.81.

That little episode taught me how petty and vindictive some people here can be.

Anyway, yeah, I hope you do read the rest of the "Angelina" series along with its two natural follow up series, "Sisters" and "Stacey."

 

[elfin_odalisque]

stevie

Hi, I love your style and am going off to read you. Welcome to the mad world.

Elle

 

[stevieraygovan]

elfin odalisque, thanks for the welcome. Cool nic too, btw.

Btw, how do you know you like my style if you haven't read me yet? I'm confused!

Anyway, I just submitted the final chapter of my "Christmas With Summer" series this morning. I wasn't sure I was even going to finish it but in the end I decided it deserved some sort of proper conclusion. Turned out to be the longest chapter I've done so far. I went very heavy on emotion in this one so I'm sure it'll turn some people off but that's how I felt about it so that's how it came out.

I had a good time writing it. Hope people like it.