Have you seen this movie?

[InnerDarkness]

Slaves... A film by Ich Bin Niemand

This film concerns women who seek out and voluntarily remain in ostensibly abusive emotional and sexual relationships. It takes place in a distant corner of the sadomasochistic world that exists far beyond mere fetishes and role-playing. In this world, sex is extreme, often violent and people sometimes die.

The Slaves documentary is part of a trilogy concerning the life and work of R. C. Hörsch that consists of the film and a two-volume retrospective of his images entitled To the Prurient Interest.

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I wanted to know if any of you have actually seen this movie? After seeing Myst post pictures of Horsch's work, I went to his site and looked around. I was very intrigued by his images and found the link to his documentary. I watched the trailor and am even more curious now.

Anyone seen it and care to share?

 

[bluntforcemama]

No, but you can see a lot of the stills from it here:

http://www.eroto.com/slaves/GALLERY.cfm?UID=E9000120040917192713&CR=0

Some should look familiar.

 

[InnerDarkness]

yep...I already looked through his entire gallery here and most of those stills, and watched the trailor...it looks very interesting. Not sure if I want to shell out 20 bucks for the DVD, but I doubt my video store here has it LOL!

 

[Kajira Callista]

yep...I already looked through his entire gallery here and most of those stills, and watched the trailor...it looks very interesting. Not sure if I want to shell out 20 bucks for the DVD, but I doubt my video store here has it LOL!

try the online rental places, they have some obscure movies, i think netflix even has a place where you can ask for a movie you want...and then no one in the video store looks at ya weird lol.

 

[InnerDarkness]

try the online rental places, they have some obscure movies, i think netflix even has a place where you can ask for a movie you want...and then no one in the video store looks at ya weird lol.

ohhhh good idea
Thanks

 

[Quint]

I liked the bios. They made me curious. The pictures mostly turned me off because of the lack of context so far.

 

[InnerDarkness]

I liked the bios. They made me curious. The pictures mostly turned me off because of the lack of context so far.

he has several galleries on his site...I find the site is not organized as well as it could be...I just stumbled on another gallery I had missed.

Overall I like his photos a lot! I watched the trailor and I dont know if it is curiosity about him or his women, or his lifestyle...but I want to see more...

 

[James G 5]

try the online rental places, they have some obscure movies, i think netflix even has a place where you can ask for a movie you want...and then no one in the video store looks at ya weird lol.

Please. I get weird looks everywhere I go.

 

[FungiUg]

Please. I get weird looks everywhere I go.

Have you tried taking that rubber chicken off your head, and wearing NORMAL shoes?

 

[MastrJ]

This sounds very interesting. Does everyone realize that "Ich bin nieman" means "I am no one"?

 

[s'lara]

This is interesting.

Where is the trailer available?

As for the german translation, i'm not surprised.

 

[ShyGuy68]

This is interesting.

Where is the trailer available?

Here: http://www.eroto.com/slaves/SLAVES_MENU.cfm?UID=E9000120040917180011&CR=3 scroll down a bit.

 

[s'lara]

Here: http://www.eroto.com/slaves/SLAVES_MENU.cfm?UID=E9000120040917180011&CR=3 scroll down a bit.

Thank you very much. Now that i've seen the trailer, i am a bit averse to wanting to watch the film. The trailer made it seem a little hokey. The shock value meter was engaged in overdrive with the repeated images of faux skin penetration with sharp objects and excessive "watch the blood trail" clips. Still, as a photographer, Horsch counts on imagery to grab your attention and he accomplishes that to some degree. i was more interested in hearing what the women sought from their relationship with him.

i might try to watch it -- he's still a photographer whose work i admire.

lara

 

[InnerDarkness]

that is really part of why I want to see the film, too. I am curious about the women. How and why are they drawn to him.

Is what is depicted in his photos and trailors (heroin use, crucifiction, vampirism) all real or staged? What draws them to him, what keeps them there....

I am just so...curious.

 

[ShyGuy68]

Thank you very much.

You're welcome.

I've just watched the trailer myself, and have decided that I don't feel like watching the movie, no matter if it's staged or not, it just seemed to weird and freaky to me.

 

[RJMasters]

ummmm no...

Just watched trailer.

Didn't like it.

They stay because a need is being meet somewhere. I don't think watcing the whole movie will reveal much beyond this simple fact. They may give more insight to what their needs are in the rest of the film, by I have no desire to know the "why".

It is obvious that there is deep signifagance placed on blood, death, and what would appear to have religious overtones. Weather it is mockery or the attempt to identify on a more personal level with Christ's crucifiction I don't have a clue.

For what its worth:

The women state they are submissive/slaves, the focusing on death is obviously a mental/spiritual focus on how the slave is to be "self-sacrificing" even unto to the point of death. Death is often used as a metephor, but the meaning is clear. It means...

"The end"

People use death to emphasis the end of something significant, such as complete surrender to another could be expressed..."I am no more, only he exisits, I am ending, he is beginning." Christians are called to "Die" to themselves(Romans), so that another("Christ their Master") might live through them, I think that is was is going on here as well.

Why the blood? Blood represents life. By spilling blood, one shows proof that they have died to themselves for another.

To be sure this is the razor's edge. Making a mistake at this level means real death. For some it may be a rush, for me it is a statistic waiting to happen. Not my cup of tea.

 

[Kajira Callista]

i kinda thought it was hot

 

[Sir_Winston54]

i kinda thought it was hot

Only "kinda?"

 

[Kajira Callista]

Only "kinda?"

shhhhhhhhh

 

[NCShin]

guess i'm finding it a little odd that from what i see here, most of the submissives at least find it interesting on some level. While it seems most of the doms are not very interested.

I'm on the not interested side as well. Too extreme for me. I'm not into bloodplay and it seems that this movie puts that center stage.

 

[Netzach]

I like bloodplay, I just think the "artist as shaman toally outside society woo woo" is better left to the likes of Jackson Pollack or Joseph Beuys.

Anything that really has to argue itself as art that hard, isn't really.