Hate crime

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

Shitstain brigade is going all in now.

Must be a slow Monday.

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Poor baby. I'll send you a membership application.

 

[BotanyBoy]

We managed blacks well in the Old South. So well that all the men went off to war and left the women and kids home alone without a fear of any problems. I cant put my finger on when things changed.

Yea unfortunately for your lot we trying not to live in the fucking dark ages living like fucking barbarians anymore.

But seems to me the real danger comes from Michigan/Ohio white trash.

Pfft.....the south...we should have let you guys fucking have it. I wish they would do it now just so I could laugh at you 3rd world shit for brains religious whacko country in 30 years. Like a hillbilly hell Iraq....LOL

 

[BoyNextDoor]

Can't tell Rob that, youz a big racist if you don't support these poor young needy people in their assault upon the shoppers, and it also for some reason means you have a sense of entitlement. To what? Who the fuck knows...

LMFAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

There was an awful lot of laughing going on by those doing the assaulting. That was pretty sick in and of itself.

 

[BotanyBoy]

There was an awful lot of laughing going on by those doing the assaulting. That was pretty sick in and of itself.

What you're really hearing is the innocent cry for help from a poverty stricken inner city youth.......you just hear laughing as they kick these peoples ass's because you have a middle class sense of entitlement.

Right rob??

Fucking LWCJ hack piece of shit.

 

[Sean Renaud]

What you're really hearing is the innocent cry for help from a poverty stricken inner city youth.......you just hear laughing as they kick these peoples ass's because you have a middle class sense of entitlement.

Right rob??

Fucking LWCJ hack piece of shit.

While it's more complicated than that, yes that's a close enough to how we should treat it.

 

[BotanyBoy]

While it's more complicated than that, yes that's a close enough to how we should treat it.

Obviously....I know plenty of poor folks who don't act like barbaric assholes and assault their neighbors/community. Thus my mocking of Rob and his bullshit.


How should we treat it?

I think every one of the little fuckers should be subjected to a public ass beating by a pro UFC fighter for 1 min or until they start loosing teeth. Right before they are denied medical treatment other than what they can afford and then told THAT is why you don't go around kicking peoples ass's before they were publicly spat/urinated upon for a minimum of 10 min. and sat in a corner to think about that fuckin shit good an hard for a minimum of 30 min.

 

[Sean Renaud]

Never worked in the history of the world.

 

[Wrong Element]

I just watched the video.

If you take all the RWCJ, and Obama, and Briebart, and GB personality conflict and other stupid bullshit out of the conversation and just watch it - it is pretty infuriating. If that were my son being beaten I'd have no issue with him defending himself from that attack with whatever means he had at hand, including a knife or a gun.

And no one is defending it. It's the "somewhere in America there exists a black criminal; therefore no one has any right to be angry about Trayvon Martin" attitude that I find sophomoric.

 

[Busybody]

And no one is defending it. It's the "somewhere in America there exists a black criminal; therefore no one has any right to be angry about Trayvon Martin" attitude that I find sophomoric.

who said that?

 

[BoyNextDoor]

While it's more complicated than that, yes that's a close enough to how we should treat it.

Are you making a joke?

 

[Sean Renaud]

Are you making a joke?

Not in the least. Like I said it's more complicated than that and yes when you see crime you've got to stop it but think of the crime like people bleeding. You stop the bleeding because they'll die otherwise. But in the long run you should really work on getting them to a place where they aren't stabbed.

Ultimately we know that poverty breeds crime and as much as we like to pretend otherwise if there is poverty in our nation it's at least partially on us to fix it.

 

[BotanyBoy]

Never worked in the history of the world.

Obviously, but it would be fuckin' sweet.

But seriously wtf do we do? I think containing ghettos/trailer parks in their little areas is about as good as it gets.

 

[Busybody]

And no one is defending it. It's the "somewhere in America there exists a black criminal; therefore no one has any right to be angry about Trayvon Martin" attitude that I find sophomoric.

who said that

 

[BoyNextDoor]

Not in the least. Like I said it's more complicated than that and yes when you see crime you've got to stop it but think of the crime like people bleeding. You stop the bleeding because they'll die otherwise. But in the long run you should really work on getting them to a place where they aren't stabbed.

Ultimately we know that poverty breeds crime and as much as we like to pretend otherwise if there is poverty in our nation it's at least partially on us to fix it.

It is really not more complicated than people should not beat a guy because they think it is fun. All the rest is a little too pointy headed for the guy getting his ass beat.

 

[Sean Renaud]

Obviously, but it would be fuckin' sweet.

But seriously wtf do we do? I think containing ghettos/trailer parks in their little areas is about as good as it gets.

We might as well just take the short cut and exterminate them if we're gonna do that.

It is really not more complicated than people should not beat a guy because they think it is fun. All the rest is a little too pointy headed for the guy getting his ass beat.

Like I said that's the immediate problem. But do you want to keep putting fires out or do you want to stop fires from starting?

 

[BoyNextDoor]

And no one is defending it. It's the "somewhere in America there exists a black criminal; therefore no one has any right to be angry about Trayvon Martin" attitude that I find sophomoric.

There needs to be outright condemnation of this sort of activity. Failing that you give those with the sophomoric attitudes the power to define it.

 

[BotanyBoy]

Not in the least. Like I said it's more complicated than that and yes when you see crime you've got to stop it but think of the crime like people bleeding. You stop the bleeding because they'll die otherwise. But in the long run you should really work on getting them to a place where they aren't stabbed.

Ultimately we know that poverty breeds crime and as much as we like to pretend otherwise if there is poverty in our nation it's at least partially on us to fix it.

I get what you're saying and that can help.

But what about the crowd you can't ? The rock stars, lotto winners and pro athletes who make/get MILLIONS...even hundreds of millions...and blow through every fucking penny just as soon as it hits their account.

You can't help those fuckers.....and they will commune and form most likely a ghetto or a trailer park regardless of income or opportunity. We should exchange them for productive people from mexico It will be like M'uricuhs citizen compost bin....we deport all our shitheads there and take all their overachievers. I mean what are they going to do, stop us? LOL

 

[Sean Renaud]

There needs to be outright condemnation of this sort of activity. Failing that you give those with the sophomoric attitudes the power to define it.

Just because the black community doesn't spend all day and all night condemning this doesn't mean it doesn't happen. And no failing that does not give those with these attitudes the power to define it.

I get what you're saying and that can help.

But what about the crowd you can't ? The rock stars, lotto winners and pro athletes who make/get MILLIONS...even hundreds of millions...and blow through every fucking penny just as soon as it hits their account.

You can't help those fuckers.....and they will commune and form most likely a ghetto or a trailer park regardless of income or opportunity. We should exchange them for productive people from mexico It will be like M'uricuhs citizen compost bin....we deport all our shitheads there and take all their overachievers. I mean what are they going to do, stop us? LOL

First that's an education issue and a long term one that we aren't going to solve overnight. The bottom line there is when you've lived your entire life living paycheck to pay check getting a bigger paycheck. . .well you're mentality is the same way because you've been conditioned to it for years. Just when you hear about some athlete knocking the shit out of someone for disrespecting them completely forgetting that the cops do actually come to 90210 addresses.

I think fixing them is the kind of long term commitement nobody really wants to get into but I also think they are rarer than people think. Nobody talks about the countless athletes who go on to own a diner in their home town and never bother anybody ever again. Just the ones who either make it SUPER big or the ones who end up dead broke and back on the streets. They don't all, or even mostly get like that.

 

[BotanyBoy]

We might as well just take the short cut and exterminate them if we're gonna do that.

Well what do we do then?

I know a guy down in SF makes 400k a year and lives in a total shit hole in Oakland because he has a gambling problem.

How much welfare do you suppose we give him when he loses his job?? There has to be a limit man...at some point "oh poverty is the issue, welfare will fix it" is just bullshit.

Kinda like throwing good money after bad with our HC and education....I mean fuck as long as (D) interest back it there is no price tag too big and no result too small. Fuck what we get out of it right? Just the fact that we are spending money on it = good enough.....

To avoid getting that bad we have to have a goal and a plan for the shit we can't un-fuck.

Let's say we solve MOST poverty...but 2% of the country is still just not give a fuck hood rats and trailer trash to the fuckin' core. What the fuck do we do with those 6 million pieces of shit??

B/c there ARE at least 6 million total and completely ruined total shit birds in this country....at least I've met like 2 million of them personally so there has to be at least 6 nation wide.
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[BoyNextDoor]

Just because the black community doesn't spend all day and all night condemning this doesn't mean it doesn't happen. And no failing that does not give those with these attitudes the power to define it.

People need to condemn it. A lot of good can come if everyone will just stop being so divisive. People who think a guy getting beat down is wrong, need to condemn it. Think one big community of 7 billion people.

And if you think that the absence of these events getting defined properly allows others to define them improperly, then you are not paying close enough attention.

 

[BotanyBoy]

First that's an education issue and a long term one that we aren't going to solve overnight. The bottom line there is when you've lived your entire life living paycheck to pay check getting a bigger paycheck. . .well you're mentality is the same way because you've been conditioned to it for years. Just when you hear about some athlete knocking the shit out of someone for disrespecting them completely forgetting that the cops do actually come to 90210 addresses.

I guess that makes sense, I just figured if you weren't a total fucking retard and never wanted to go back to living in a shit hole the first thing you would do is live below your means first chance you got.

I think fixing them is the kind of long term commitement nobody really wants to get into but I also think they are rarer than people think. Nobody talks about the countless athletes who go on to own a diner in their home town and never bother anybody ever again. Just the ones who either make it SUPER big or the ones who end up dead broke and back on the streets. They don't all, or even mostly get like that.

I'm not saying they do, but pop/entertainment stars and athletes do have a disproportionately large number of "I can't control my spending and it's put me back in the poor house." cases than with a lot of other professions so I used them as an example. I've seen bankers and investors go from riches to rags just as fast.

 

[Sean Renaud]

We're divisive because we don't all agree on what the problem is.

 

[BotanyBoy]

We're divisive because we don't all agree on what the problem is.

I thought problem was poverty.....which leads to crime of all sorts.

 

[Sean Renaud]

I thought problem was poverty.....which leads to crime of all sorts.

And he thinks the problem is violence first and foremost.

And 6 million D-bags. Depending on the definition I think you're probably spot on there. But 6 million D-bags is in a country of 330 million really low. Little over 2% of the population and they can probably be managed for the most part.

I'm not saying everybody is perfect, I am however suggesting that people with sufficient funds as a whole get into different kinds of trouble and that again perhaps we can find better ways to deal with it.

 

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