Guess I'm a pinko commie for thinking that we can disarm Iraq w/o a war.

[Spinaroonie]

God, why haven't I seen it? Let's kill people and give somebody motivation for using their weapons of mass destruction.

God! Let's do that!

Let's not even think of doing something OUTRAGEOUS and HARSH and ILL-JUDGED as say... Not manufacturing Tritium.

Section 1.1: What the fuck is tritium and does this mean that that I can't let my own countrymen die for lower pump prices?

Tritium is an isotope of hydrogren essential in Nuclear weaponry. Due to it's 12.3 year halflife, Tritium has to be constantly produced using NUCLEAR REACTORS in order to maintain these.

Simply reducing or completely banning the production of Tritium, nuclear weapons would be reduced at 6% per year, due to the fast half life.

But what about naturally occouring Tritium? Well it's rare due to the half life. Also, it'd be incredibly hard to find, as it is only created in the upper atmosphere. Al Qaeda and Iraw do not have NASA.

But god. Saving lives by NOT risking them? God I must be crazy.

 

[scylis]

pinko commie bastage!

 

[REDWAVE]

There are a lot of "crazy pinko commie bastages" [sic] who don't want to go to war. As Thomas Friedman in the NYT noted, most people's attitude is "Why do we need to go to war with Iraq all of a sudden? Does this have something to do with the upcoming election?"

 

[lavender]

 

[Coolville]

Better pink than covered in the bright red blood of innocent civilians.

 

[Sillyman]

The whole thing goes beyond weapons of mass destructio at this point.

 

[SINthysist]

If you were living in a system ruled by a brutal dictator, would you prefer to be rescued (perhaps at the cost of your life) or would you prefer your national sovereignty be held paramount? Would you care what happened to Israel, would you celebrate the lives sacrificed for you, would you be grateful to your liberators? Or would you spit on them as the REAL enemy? I am curious SD. Would you continue, after over a decade, to be patient with the United Nations and in solidarity with the idea of PEACE at all costs?

Would you just accept your lot in life and hope for no better?

Would you dream of a better day for your children?

Would you pray for mercy?

Would you?

?

 

[Don K Dyck]

If you were living in a system ruled by a brutal dictator, would you prefer to be rescued (perhaps at the cost of your life) or would you prefer your national sovereignty be held paramount? Would you care what happened to Israel, would you celebrate the lives sacrificed for you, would you be grateful to your liberators? Or would you spit on them as the REAL enemy? I am curious SD. Would you continue, after over a decade, to be patient with the United Nations and in solidarity with the idea of PEACE at all costs?
Would you just accept your lot in life and hope for no better?
Would you dream of a better day for your children?
Would you pray for mercy? Would you? ?

SIN, you've lost me here . . . what about taking a look from the other fellows shoes . . . would you want the jobs and economic benefits that owning a petrochemical industry could give to the Saudi citizens, or would it be better for the Saudis to see their raw materials shipped overseas for processing in factories owned by foreigners???

 

[RhumbRunner13]

God, why haven't I seen it? Let's kill people and give somebody motivation for using their weapons of mass destruction.

God! Let's do that!

Let's not even think of doing something OUTRAGEOUS and HARSH and ILL-JUDGED as say... Not manufacturing Tritium.

Section 1.1: What the fuck is tritium and does this mean that that I can't let my own countrymen die for lower pump prices?

Tritium is an isotope of hydrogren essential in Nuclear weaponry. Due to it's 12.3 year halflife, Tritium has to be constantly produced using NUCLEAR REACTORS in order to maintain these.

Simply reducing or completely banning the production of Tritium, nuclear weapons would be reduced at 6% per year, due to the fast half life.

But what about naturally occouring Tritium? Well it's rare due to the half life. Also, it'd be incredibly hard to find, as it is only created in the upper atmosphere. Al Qaeda and Iraw do not have NASA.

But god. Saving lives by NOT risking them? God I must be crazy.

That's one idea, Spin, but nuclear weapons don't use Tritium.

Modern thermo-nuclear devices use lithium-6 deuteride. They are quite stable and storage life is long.

Rhumb

 

[SINthysist]

Until the House of Saud is overthrown any discussion of a Saudi citizen's cut of anything is a rather specious discussion.

That's another people held under a dual tyranny. State and Religion.

With Saddam, we just have to beat the State.

So yeah, I want the Saudi and Iraqi citizens to prosper which can not and will not happen now because they live under Soprano-style Despotic governmental systems.




Now, when we speak of putting on another's shoe...

Let's make that the shoe of a Saudi or Iraqi woman.

Doubly, even triply victimized!

 

[SINthysist]

Thank you Rhumb...

 

[Don K Dyck]

Remember This . . .

Until the House of Saud is overthrown any discussion of a Saudi citizen's cut of anything is a rather specious discussion.

That's another people held under a dual tyranny. State and Religion.

With Saddam, we just have to beat the State.

So yeah, I want the Saudi and Iraqi citizens to prosper which can not and will not happen now because they live under Soprano-style Despotic governmental systems.
Now, when we speak of putting on another's shoe...
Let's make that the shoe of a Saudi or Iraqi woman.
Doubly, even triply victimized!

But what gives you the right to question or criticise their free-will choice to live a DIFFERENT religous tradition to Fundamentalist Episcopalian?? Contrary to the beliefs of the John Birch Society, most Moslems are quite happy with their lot . . . it is only the US Oil cartel who are unhappy . . . unhappy that the Moslems have all that lovely OIL!!!! Thy shalt not covet . . .

 

[SINthysist]

If you are poor, your children hungry and uneducated save for religious teachings and you are satisfied with your lot, then it is because despair given to you by your leaders has broken your spirit. The only thing you have left is the hope of an afterlife, so you struggle, day-by-day, in silence and misery, hoping and praying for death's sweet release. Five times a day...

 

[REDWAVE]

Selective outrage

Oh, come on, SIN, you know better than that. Mubarak in Egypt and Musharraf in Pakistan are also dictators, but there's no talk of overthrowing them. As I'm sure you're well aware, the U.S. government has supported a lot of brutal dictators throughout the world. Saddam Hussein is a brutal dictator, but he's being targeted because he won't play ball with the U.S., not because he's a brutal dictator. For that matter, the repressive and corrupt Saudi monarchy has long been supported by the U.S. government. Saudi Arabia was a key "ally" in the First Oil War.

 

[SINthysist]

...ssssssshhhhhh RED, sssssssssssshhhhhhhhhh...

One at a time. One at a time. He won't speak up when we go for Saddam. He won't speak up when we go for Arafat. ... After a while, no one left to speak up for him...

Himmler 101

 

[islandman]

I was right. fancy that.

 

[CoolidgEffect]

God, why haven't I seen it? Let's kill people and give somebody motivation for using their weapons of mass destruction.

God! Let's do that!

Let's not even think of doing something OUTRAGEOUS and HARSH and ILL-JUDGED as say... Not manufacturing Tritium.

Section 1.1: What the fuck is tritium and does this mean that that I can't let my own countrymen die for lower pump prices?

Tritium is an isotope of hydrogren essential in Nuclear weaponry. Due to it's 12.3 year halflife, Tritium has to be constantly produced using NUCLEAR REACTORS in order to maintain these.

Simply reducing or completely banning the production of Tritium, nuclear weapons would be reduced at 6% per year, due to the fast half life.

But what about naturally occouring Tritium? Well it's rare due to the half life. Also, it'd be incredibly hard to find, as it is only created in the upper atmosphere. Al Qaeda and Iraw do not have NASA.

But god. Saving lives by NOT risking them? God I must be crazy.

I see a few problems with this.

1) tritium is used for many scientific purposes. It is not just used for weapons. I doubt you want to slow down medical research.

2) I'm not a bomb guy, but is tritium really necessary for a nuc? I don't think Little Boy or Fat Man had any tritium in them. I could be wrong. I thought one used Uranium-235 and Plutonioum-238.

 

[fgarvb1]

I say wait. Sooner or later he will invade and take over the whole middle east.
Before that he will be able to fire off a nuke over here. That will be fun.
Don't worry he will save some for england.

 

[zipman]

God, why haven't I seen it? Let's kill people and give somebody motivation for using their weapons of mass destruction.

God! Let's do that!

Let's not even think of doing something OUTRAGEOUS and HARSH and ILL-JUDGED as say... Not manufacturing Tritium.

Section 1.1: What the fuck is tritium and does this mean that that I can't let my own countrymen die for lower pump prices?

Tritium is an isotope of hydrogren essential in Nuclear weaponry. Due to it's 12.3 year halflife, Tritium has to be constantly produced using NUCLEAR REACTORS in order to maintain these.

Simply reducing or completely banning the production of Tritium, nuclear weapons would be reduced at 6% per year, due to the fast half life.

But what about naturally occouring Tritium? Well it's rare due to the half life. Also, it'd be incredibly hard to find, as it is only created in the upper atmosphere. Al Qaeda and Iraw do not have NASA.

But god. Saving lives by NOT risking them? God I must be crazy.

"Guess I'm a pinko commie for thinking that we can disarm Iraq w/o a war."

No, just naive.

 

[zipman]

Re: Remember This . . .

But what gives you the right to question or criticise their free-will choice to live a DIFFERENT religous tradition to Fundamentalist Episcopalian?? Contrary to the beliefs of the John Birch Society, most Moslems are quite happy with their lot . . . it is only the US Oil cartel who are unhappy . . . unhappy that the Moslems have all that lovely OIL!!!! Thy shalt not covet . . .

First of all they do not have free-will as they live in dictatorships.

Secondly, where on earth did you get the idea that they are happy? Most of the people in those countries have some of the worst living conditions, worst education, least freedom, and least opportunity. I mean give me a break!

 

[Guest]

Just assassinate Saddam and his son(s?). Less messy that way.

In exchange, kill Sharon too.

 

[Anais Dahl]

Let's kill people and give somebody motivation for using their weapons of mass destruction.

This is one of my concerns as well.


I don't think you are crazy for not wanting to go to war. I hope that no one wants to go to war, but that some see a neccessary evil in it.






I kant spell wurth a damm.

 

[Ishmael]

Tritium is an isotope of hydrogren essential in Nuclear weaponry. Due to it's 12.3 year halflife, Tritium has to be constantly produced using NUCLEAR REACTORS in order to maintain these.

Simply reducing or completely banning the production of Tritium, nuclear weapons would be reduced at 6% per year, due to the fast half life.

But what about naturally occouring Tritium? Well it's rare due to the half life. Also, it'd be incredibly hard to find, as it is only created in the upper atmosphere. Al Qaeda and Iraw do not have NASA.

Condencing some things that have already been pointed out and adding a few.

Tritium is NOT required for a nuclear weapon. It isn't even required for a thermo-nuclear weapon. It is used as an 'enhancer' for thermo-nuclear weapons because of it's cheap, easily produced, and relatively safe to work with. But a fusion device CAN be produced without it.

The bulk of a nuclear devices weight and volume is in the fission device. A plain old garden variety Atomic Bomb. That is more than sufficient for a terrorist needs.

Tritium has many commecial uses, from medical to the glow in the dark dial on your watch.

Soooo, while your idea does have some merit, it isn't practical.

There is a complex web of requirements needed to produce an atomic device. Special switches, called Kritons, enriched material and the equipment to enrich it. All of which are easier to track and detect than Tritium.

The worlds powers learned long ago that the usefullness of these devices is in not using them. Unfortunately, there are some wannabe power players that believe in their use. Saddam appears to be one such player.

Ishmael

 

[Guest]

Re: Re: Guess I'm a pinko commie for thinking that we can disarm Iraq w/o a war.

Unfortunately, there are some wannabe power players that believe in their use. Saddam appears to be one such player.

Ishmael

You saying the guy's that dumb?

 

[Ishmael]

Re: Re: Re: Guess I'm a pinko commie for thinking that we can disarm Iraq w/o a war.

You saying the guy's that dumb?

Are you thinking he's not?

In his mind I think that he's thinking it's a shrewd move. He's won concession after concession. I truly think that he thinks we're too spineless to do anything about it. Even now.

Ishmael